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KhyrosFinalCut posted:"reduces" -- present tense -- Written from the POV of someone who knew Opop's alignment when/before the shot happened. It's written that way because I was following what I believe to be the thought process of merk, who (being scum in this scenario) would in fact know that Opop was town.
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Jan 6, 2015 21:40
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Epsilon Plus posted:What's it like playing mafia but being unable to read? I think that I pretty clearly stated that merk's play was bad (which I thought was an indicator of scumminess? I guess not?). "ernie says some stuff about merk that's good.. but maybe merk was telling the truth... but it was bad play" You threw shade on 2 players, said something reversing the opinion, and voted neither one, not making any clear alignment commentary. Correct -- Calling something bad play is not an indicator of scumminess. Also, I didn't see WO's post til after I responded to you.
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Jan 6, 2015 21:40
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##unvote merk's play irks me, and i feel like he's outsmarting me by making unconfirmable absolute statements like 'i had only today to use the vig'. i believe in my bones that a boon for winning a d1 event would be a d1 specific thing in a diqnol game, but i mean he didn't even ask opop to claim or anything. epsilon feels like he's buddying to me too much. both cases i made (one even on him) were met with him nodding his head. i don't think scum would be so bullish as to link themselves to a player this transparently. i'm leaning slightly town on him. somber's play feels like town somber to me. i dunno the only time i ever caught him was because he gave up on playing like scum. i'm failing to see anything there, but i'd like someone to make a convincing case. and now kfc is freaking me out with how 'undecided' he seems. nothing winged orpheus did/said could have made them look 'better' in kfc's eyes, but apparently epsilon plus looked worse for half a second??
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Jan 6, 2015 21:42
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Winged Orpheus posted:It's written that way because I was following what I believe to be the thought process of merk, who (being scum in this scenario) would in fact know that Opop was town. for what it's worth, this was clear to me and i don't think it was a scumslip, kfc WO can be scum who also chose an obtusely worded statement that sounded like a scumslip, but he did not scumslip in that sentence
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Jan 6, 2015 21:43
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merk telling the truth about his game-winner boon doesn't rule out merk being scum. Is this actually something I need to elaborate for you? My God. (Also I don't think somber is scummy, just shady, hth)
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Jan 6, 2015 21:43
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Epsilon Plus posted:merk telling the truth about his game-winner boon doesn't rule out merk being scum. Is this actually something I need to elaborate for you? My God. i didn't say that whether or not merk lied about the mechanics makes him scum/town. i said that his inefficient use is still scummy. what i meant is that his response to the suspicion i.e. dealing in factual statements as opposed to doubling down on his decision or admitting he made a mistake gives me pause.
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Jan 6, 2015 21:45
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:"reduces" -- present tense -- Written from the POV of someone who knew Opop's alignment when/before the shot happened. Okay that's pretty good.
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Jan 6, 2015 21:46
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I still think merk's a good vote for today, because that vig really echoes how he likes to use vigs as scum. Somber still sounds REALLY forced so I'd probably vote him too, I need to reread everyone else before I'd vote anyone else tho
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Jan 6, 2015 21:49
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Also I don't want to lurker lynch D1 but I would like to hear more from the lurkers, esp Amoeba since lurking's unlike him
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Jan 6, 2015 21:50
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Ernie. posted:i didn't say that whether or not merk lied about the mechanics makes him scum/town. i said that his inefficient use is still scummy. what i meant is that his response to the suspicion i.e. dealing in factual statements as opposed to doubling down on his decision or admitting he made a mistake gives me pause. Sorry, I was replying to KFC. I totally understand you.
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Jan 6, 2015 21:56
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Also ##vote merk for now, I may be absent closer to deadline
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Jan 6, 2015 21:57
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Somberbrero posted:Okay that's pretty good. what you don't actually believe that's a "pretty good" do you
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Jan 6, 2015 21:58
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##vote Merk for vigging Opop.
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Jan 6, 2015 22:05
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:That's a lot of words for "There's a bunch of things that someone could call scummy going around but I'm not going to say any of them are." I agree with this read of EP's post and I think you could also say exactly the same thing about his other big post Epsilon Plus posted:so I've worked 48 hours the past four days, time to flex my mafia muscles ##vote EP
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Jan 6, 2015 22:07
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Chic Trombone posted:I still think merk's a good vote for today, because that vig really echoes how he likes to use vigs as scum. Somber still sounds REALLY forced so I'd probably vote him too, I need to reread everyone else before I'd vote anyone else tho How do I like to use vigs as scum?
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Jan 6, 2015 22:11
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##vote Chic Chic saying that I used this vig as the way I 'like to use vigs as scum' is made up. In the one instance where I actually had a vig as scum which was linked in this game, I used the vig as a way to make myself look town - that's how I use any ability as scum. If you actually go into that game and look at even the smallest iota of context, you can see that the vig on Ernie was based on a build up of mine from the day before where I said Ernie was the best lynch. I was furthering my own fake scum hunting in that game. That's how I use vigs as scum. tl;dr: Chic's analysis here on my meta is made up and contrary to the one game linked. Chic is scum. For those who don't have archives: merk THE DAY BEFORE THE VIG posted:Ernie, your votes seem like you are pulling them out of thin air. I think you are talking about Tom Tucker in the post I just quoted, and that's a fake-sounding reason to vote Tom Tucker. His vote is literally the best vote on Byers; you're voting him for actually making a case with a vote. merk THE DAY BEFORE THE VIG posted:I still think Ernie is the best lynch. I'll switch to Byers when I'm done shaving if no activity is happening. merk THE DAY OF THE VIG posted:Ernie, you have six hours to claim. merk posted:##erase Ernie
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Jan 6, 2015 22:16
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Yeah, I'm voting Chic until she's removed from the game. You may as well get it over with today and choose me or her.
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Jan 6, 2015 22:19
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Pinterest Mom posted:what it's clever + funny Amoeba102 posted:##vote Merk for vigging Opop. oh come on.
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Jan 6, 2015 22:19
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I would like to invoke veteran's privilege here and demand that we lynch Chic. She is definitely scum.
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Jan 6, 2015 22:20
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Somberbrero posted:it's clever + funny
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Jan 6, 2015 22:25
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Pinterest Mom posted:does that mean you agree with it Ultimately no but I really thought about it.
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Jan 6, 2015 22:39
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your response to a post you don't agree with was "Okay that's pretty good"?
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Jan 6, 2015 22:44
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Merk I think your case isn't very good and also I think the entire derail regarding that previous game was bad.Chic Trombone posted:Also I don't want to lurker lynch D1 but I would like to hear more from the lurkers, esp Amoeba since lurking's unlike him This post bugs me though. What purpose does it serve? Also, Amoeba is scum.
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Jan 6, 2015 22:44
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yah merk's trying to push the chic case hard is baaaaad
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Jan 6, 2015 22:46
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Ok but what if you buy FV a name change, change it to Chic, and then lynch her instead? That way we both win.
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Jan 6, 2015 22:46
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Pinterest Mom posted:your response to a post you don't agree with was "Okay that's pretty good"? It was a very appealing idea, it's a neat little case and I wish I thought it was the correct call.
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Jan 6, 2015 22:46
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Is that the only thing you posted where you secretly hold the precise opposite opinion of what you wrote?
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Jan 6, 2015 22:48
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Oh Chic said that about me? Well, here's why I'm lurking - too much loving work to get done. Hey Somber, yeah I'm scum that can choose someone to play chess on Day 1 and the winner gets a vig. Is that what you're thinking?
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Jan 6, 2015 22:48
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i belive in merk
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Votecount for Day 1  merk (4): Ernie., Chic Trombone, Winged Orpheus, fiery_valkyrie (3): Somberbrero, Your Personal Muse, uranus, Pinterest Mom, Somberbrero (2): Quidnose, merk, Asiina, Winged Orpheus (1): Ernie., KhyrosFinalCut, Chic Trombone (1): Somberbrero, Your Personal Muse, Epsilon Plus (1): Asiina, Dugong, Ernie., Allen Wren (1): Pinterest Mom KhyrosFinalCut (1): Rarity Quidnose (0): Epsilon Plus, Dr. Hurt (0): KhyrosFinalCut, Pinterest Mom (0): fiery_valkyrie, uranus (0): Winged Orpheus, Not Voting (9): Allen Wren, Dr. Hurt, Dugong, Ernie., EXAKT Science, HiipFire, Little Mac, Murmur Twin, Tremendous TasteWith 23 alive, it's 12 votes to lynch. The current deadline is January 06th, 2015 at 7 p.m. EST -- that's in about 1 hour, 58 minutes.
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Jan 6, 2015 23:01
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Amoeba102 posted:Oh Chic said that about me? Well, here's why I'm lurking - too much loving work to get done. yeah, why is that improbable? Pinterest Mom posted:Is that the only thing you posted where you secretly hold the precise opposite opinion of what you wrote? do you actually think this is an inconsistency or is this just pressure for the sake of pressure? if you're going to vote me just do it now so we have time to talk about it. incidentally we're going to no-lynch
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Jan 6, 2015 23:02
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Somberbrero posted:This post bugs me though. What purpose does it serve? Also, Amoeba is scum. It means "boy it sure would be nice to get some fresh perspectives" but made it clear at the same time that I don't want to lynch a lurker D1 bc D1 lurker lynches are always terrible?? Idk man not every post has some greater meaning Also merk pushing me this hard is weird and makes very little sense imo
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Jan 6, 2015 23:04
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If merk isn't scum after that post I will be very surprised let's put it that way
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Jan 6, 2015 23:05
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It's improbable because it'd be fuckingly stupid imbalanced. It's not impossible, but it's definitely improbable because the role itself would be far too imbalanced to be applied with the level of information an informed minority would have. If you're going to think it's probable, then you can follow the reasoning through to it's full conclusion.
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Jan 6, 2015 23:07
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merk posted:Yeah, I'm voting Chic until she's removed from the game. You may as well get it over with today and choose me or her. merk posted:I would like to invoke veteran's privilege here and demand that we lynch Chic. She is definitely scum. You are ridiculous.
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Amoeba102 posted:It's improbable because it'd be fuckingly stupid imbalanced. It's not impossible, but it's definitely improbable because the role itself would be far too imbalanced to be applied with the level of information an informed minority would have. did you know that the winner would be given a vig?
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Jan 6, 2015 23:08
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I just want to put it out there - real life has gotten in the way of my participating and I've requested (and have been granted) a replacement for after D1. Sorry, all.
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Jan 6, 2015 23:08
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Murmur Twin posted:I just want to put it out there - real life has gotten in the way of my participating and I've requested (and have been granted) a replacement for after D1. Sorry, all. Vote merk or Valk please.
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Somberbrero posted:did you know that the winner would be given a vig? No, but if you think I'm scum would you expect an honest answer?
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