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Ojo posted:It's interesting how most of the theories here seem to assume Grisha really is Eren's biological father. How do we know Eren's mum didn't sleep with someone in the Reiss family and get pregnant? Grisha could hve even encouraged this in order to have access to someone with royal family DNA who he had some degree of control over. God drat, what the gently caress is with goons and cucking?
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# ? Dec 10, 2014 07:50 |
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Ataru13 posted:God drat, what the gently caress is with goons and cucking? This is a weird generalization to make in response to a totally plausible theory. This is already a comic that has multiple characters doing horrible, extreme things because they think they're necessary. This wouldn't really be outside of the realm of that. thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Dec 10, 2014 |
# ? Dec 10, 2014 07:58 |
Nelson Mandingo posted:As the official page is out, I'm gonna not bother with spoiler tags. Of course, considering the extramural faction is interested in the power, we can assume that they've got a way to utilize it. Perhaps they've got a rebel branch of the Reiss family out there? All of history might be a lie, given the memory manipulation powers, so literally anything could be out there. If Grisha knew ~secrets~ he probably learned them from outside the wall, rather than from the royalty. So it's not a stretch to think that he managed to get, perhaps, a baby or something from that group. I dunno, that sounds kind of silly. But if the bloodline thing is true and Grisha couldn't use the power and Eren can, one of three things must also be true- Eren was adopted, Eren's mother was from a special bloodline even if Grisha wasn't, or Grisha got cucked to save humanity.
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# ? Dec 10, 2014 08:51 |
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My bet's on Eren being the uncle's illegitimate son or maaaybe grandson. Of course Frieda would know about him if she inherited his memories.
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# ? Dec 10, 2014 09:36 |
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Talk about taking Oral Histories to a whole new level, yeesh
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# ? Dec 10, 2014 17:04 |
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thexerox123 posted:This is a weird generalization to make in response to a totally plausible theory. It was a joke
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# ? Dec 10, 2014 21:44 |
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Well okay, given Historia, it's plausible that Eren is also a Reiss kid due to sleeping around and such. Although, thinking about it didn't Grisha use the memory altering ability on Eren? I initially thought it was the injection that did all that, but the injection was to turn him into a titan. So maybe Grisha got ate just as a way to hide the abilities once he realized he missed papa Reiss in his murder rampage. Not sure if those abilities and knowledge are mutually exclusive though, maybe he and Eren can use the memory wipe, but not poo poo like wall building or knowing what happened in the past. Honestly we have enough plausible theories floating around that if some of them aren't right, at least even partially, it'll be fairly surprising. I'd like to think we've gotten better about paying attention to foreshadowing and such since it's come up so much before.
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# ? Dec 10, 2014 22:05 |
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Brightman posted:Although, thinking about it didn't Grisha use the memory altering ability on Eren? I initially thought it was the injection that did all that, but the injection was to turn him into a titan.
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 02:21 |
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Ataru13 posted:God drat, what the gently caress is with goons and cucking? ugh please don't start. Can we let this word die?
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 08:23 |
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Jackard posted:Nah memory loss seems to happen to everyone who shifts the first few times. But there was all that poo poo about remembering about getting back to the basement when he looked at the key. I dunno, you're probably right.
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 15:58 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Well, I'm much more comfortable about Zackly's scat fetish now I know it's an officially-condoned pastime for the brave intelligence officers of the good ol' US of A. Holy poo poo. Isayama knew.
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 20:26 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Holy poo poo. Makes perfect sense that he would, this is a manga where everything revolves around two large objects that hit two separate structures
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 20:31 |
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I was thinking this lately, when's the last time a non-flashback titan even appeared? Seems like there hasn't been one for months and months and it's great.
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# ? Dec 16, 2014 23:38 |
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sharktamer posted:I was thinking this lately, when's the last time a non-flashback titan even appeared? Seems like there hasn't been one for months and months and it's great. Well, in the most technical of terms, we saw Bert and Reiner a couple chapters ago... though that was just a lie. So technically not a flashback!
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# ? Dec 17, 2014 10:15 |
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sharktamer posted:I was thinking this lately, when's the last time a non-flashback titan even appeared? Seems like there hasn't been one for months and months and it's great. Well, at the end of the chapter before this, Eren seemed to be transforming in the present due to the pain of remembering eating his dad. This seems to have been taken back, but it would be awesome if he managed to do something right for once. Also the look on Reiss' face would be priceless.
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 06:24 |
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Eiba posted:If it's a lie, then why did Grisha feed himself to Eren?
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 07:01 |
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Hodgepodge posted:Well, at the end of the chapter before this, Eren seemed to be transforming in the present due to the pain of remembering eating his dad. This seems to have been taken back, but it would be awesome if he managed to do something right for once. Also the look on Reiss' face would be priceless. For once? Eren has: rescued everyone from the central building when it was surrounded by titans, saved mikasa when she had given up on life, plugged that hole in the wall, made annie bert and reiner stop and rethink their invasion which saved hundred of thousands of lives, was central in taking down annie, and killed a bunch of crazy church assholes by punching a titan on top of them It's not his fault that Bert did a flying elbow off the top rope or that the scumbag merchant betrayed him
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 08:04 |
this allusion meant posted:It seems highly unlikely he would have committed to feeding Eren the power if he had turned out to be uninterested in knowing the truth or carrying forth the sacrifices of those before, given how unlikely to survive or do anything interesting with it he would have been. There's something about the power that prevents most people from using it, and something about the royal line that lets them use it. Furthermore, suppose whatever makes one insusceptible to mental influence also allows you to fully utilize the titan power in question. Because... reasons. That would mean that the fact that Erin wants to see what's outside the walls by itself would mean he's capable of saving humanity. ... Honestly, this random theory doesn't logically follow anything at all, but it feels like a neat and tidy idea to me, even if it's kind of silly. (No more silly than the manga's already gotten, though, with mass mind control and that kind of nonsense.) That said, if it's a birthright thing you'd be right to say that totally undercuts the whole fight-against-fate theme of the manga.
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 10:54 |
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I hope not because one of the themes is how good intentions lead to bad outcomes. Eren's story is a twisted version of the usual power fantasy.
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 13:12 |
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Eiba posted:Random poorly thought out theory vaguely inspired by this: Perhaps part of the power to change people's feelings has been in play the whole time, and perhaps it discourages any interest in the world outside the walls. This would mean that people who do then express interest in the world outside are, for whatever reason, immune to the mind control. Perhaps it just randomly happens in some people with 'strong wills' or whatever. Instead of birthright it can just be a rare, inherent trait.
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 19:07 |
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Terror Sweat posted:It's not his fault that Bert did a flying elbow off the top rope or that the scumbag merchant betrayed him Or that he can't get hard. (Probably because he doesn't have that power).
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# ? Dec 19, 2014 02:32 |
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Nelson Mandingo posted:http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iyrQbS6B4Uw/TpEqmG3_TcI/AAAAAAAAA0k/K3QKVzLEOz0/019.png?imgmax=3000 It's safe to say at this point that was Frieda. She knew the Yeager family for whatever reason and wiped Eren's mind of meeting her. Holy crap! That is amazing. She gave Eren the scarf as a parting present.
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# ? Dec 19, 2014 10:46 |
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While we wait for the first Titan drop of the millenium, why not enjoy some Spoof on Titan? To be honest, most of the SoT stuff is sort of inoffensively bland, but this month is a little hopeful in a way we don't often see from the universe.
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# ? Jan 2, 2015 17:07 |
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Chapter 65's spoiler notes are. It's a pretty sad chapter. http://mangapill.com/shingeki-no-kyojin/65 I'm guessing Eren really is going to die and Historia takes his place in the story. Isayama obviously has no hesitation in killing him off. The only thing he's got going for his survival at this point is the basement. Again and again this story is completely unpredictable. Rod Reiss truly is an rear end in a top hat. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jan 7, 2015 |
# ? Jan 7, 2015 21:38 |
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Eren's not dying.
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# ? Jan 7, 2015 21:49 |
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Must resist and wait for translate
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# ? Jan 7, 2015 22:16 |
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So Asians and Ackermans have immunity to mind magic... does this mean that Mikasa has double immunity?!
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# ? Jan 7, 2015 23:05 |
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Holy poo poo guys. EDIT: There's no way Eren's dead. I think one of his father's memories will kick loose and he'll remember why he should be fighting. It does seem like Mikasa should be double-immune to Eren's head Command ability, so I guess Eren didn't forcibly change her personality when they were kids. One theory down!
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 01:10 |
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http://www.crunchyroll.com/comics_read/manga?volume_id=273&chapter_num=65.00 Honestly, I really truly believe Eren will die and if he doesn't it'll be an honest surprise. Issue 15 and 16 are from Isayama's own words the pivotal moment in the story. 66 will be the final chapter of issue 16. The core of Eren's character is he wants to 1. Kill all of the Titans 2. Explore the outside world. 3. Is completely determined in whatever situation he's in. He's completely lost all of that in the span of 4 chapters. Can he get it back or change? This is really his darkest hour. Historia even says this chapter that she's going to take Eren's place in the story and do everything he really wanted. Everything about her is pretty much symbolism with becoming the true queen. Her name, the whole "Goddess" shtick, searching for a purpose in her life, and so on. So yeah. Isayama could totally kill Eren off and it would 100% work in the narrative. Oh and yeah you need your spinal fluid to live before anyone wonders. Even if Eren has plot armor, it just goes to show that with good writing you can make it seem like a character doesn't have it that he's this close to death. The reveal with the Ackermans really worked out. I don't feel so bad about Levi being an Ackerman anymore. Isayama made it work. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jan 9, 2015 |
# ? Jan 9, 2015 01:24 |
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If Historia eats Eren, Mikasa's gonna kill her. I doubt Eren will die, because his constant dumb courage has been the core of the series, but if he does die, Mikasa will have to stop being a core character. One character being voted off the island I can see, but two? I'm predicting that a totally sweet Titan fight will break out, and Eren will end up trapping Historia underground. They'll have to journey out to find Team Traitor and feed one of them to the captive Historia to restore her humanity. EDIT: Wait, poo poo - I have it. They're going to feed her Annie.
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 01:34 |
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Hah. So this chapter is saying that we need diversity to protect ourselves from ignorance. Unfortunately, I think Historia is about to be killed.
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 01:35 |
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my dad posted:Hah. So this chapter is saying that we need diversity to protect ourselves from ignorance. Yeah, I have to say, reading this it looks to me like Historia is about to get straight up murdered by the rest of her friends. Eren might be resolved, but if they show up in time I can't see them just standing by and letting Eren get eaten.
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 01:38 |
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Nelson Mandingo posted:http://www.crunchyroll.com/comics_read/manga?volume_id=273&chapter_num=65.00 Eren may believe all of that right now, given what he's heard, but that doesn't mean it's true. We still don't know much beyond our own conjecture when it comes to the motives of Eren's father when he killed the Reese family and stole the power of the Titans. It could be there was a drat good reason to do that outside of merely ensuring Eren's survival, and Reese is either withholding it or does not know about it. Eren finding out what that is could give him renewed purpose.
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 01:44 |
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I do believe that all season 2 fans are going to be terribly dissapointed if it takes the manga route.
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 01:49 |
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Why... would it not do that? What would be disappointing?
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 01:54 |
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There is so much of the story that is interwoven between Eren and Historia that either of them dying is a dumb thing to do, especially in the case of Eren.
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 02:19 |
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Annie's gonna get offed, which provides a way to bring the other human titans back into the story.
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 02:26 |
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In It For The Tank posted:Eren, don't you dare let yourself get eaten, you wanker. !!!!! But now I am confident that he won't be eaten. If it was going to happen, it wouldn't have been drawn out like this. The fact that Eren has made peace with it and Historia has gone past the point of no return means that the cruelest twist will be for Eren to be rescued, so that's what will happen. But someone is going to die saving him. Also I'm thinking that Reiss, as he is right next to Historia, gets eaten first. I also think that Eren will end up transforming to save his friends. He's willing to get eaten, but there's no way he'll let his friends die in front of him. That's not part of the plan. I don't know what happens next for Historia, but she either dies or is trapped in the cavern until they feed her Annie (or Ymir comes back and sacrifices herself somewhere down the line). There's no way she eats Eren. In It For The Tank fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Jan 9, 2015 |
# ? Jan 9, 2015 02:40 |
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Mmm delicious reiss cakes.
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 02:44 |
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Edit: Oh nevermind.
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