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cams posted:Watching Anderson lose to Weidman the first time hurt, but it was fine, and it proved that even the greats are mortal. Before Weidman 2: Anderson Silva has such tiny shrimpy legs, I can just imagine one of them getting snapped in half During Weidman 2: Oh god nooooo   Yeah, I don't want to see a third matchup. Silva has a loving amazing legacy still, he doesn't deserve to have his later years be remembered as being brought to the brink of death by Weidman over and over.
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Cuckoo posted:Before Weidman 2: Anderson Silva has such tiny shrimpy legs, I can just imagine one of them getting snapped in half Maybe Dana just wants revenge for the Maia fight.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:15
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Ewar Woowar posted:Anderson should just fight mouthy up and comers on win streaks- like Cerrone vs Jury. "that pathetic addict beat me so bad that i cried. what a loser"
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Crappers posted:I'll live happy with the knowledge that he'll pretty much stomp anyone else in the division with ease whenever he returns (except maybe Gus). i think there are a lot of fighters at lhw who would gently caress cormier up. like johnson, vlad, rashad, etc.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:27
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"the guy with weird nuts who gets all hosed up on coke and hides under the cage was only able to outstrike me by a two to one margin? what an idiot"
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I can't wait for Cain-Bigfoot III. By my calculation the fight would last -24 seconds.
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cain would slip on titty milk on his way to the cage and destroy his shoulder or knee or whatever, and bigfoot would still get brutally tko'd in the fashion of that korean guy who got celebrated into unconsciousness
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Jan 8, 2015 16:33
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the janitor is no longer with the ufc, i'm afraid. he lost to joey beltran via north south choke in bellator and retired.
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Cuckoo posted:Before Weidman 2: Anderson Silva has such tiny shrimpy legs, I can just imagine one of them getting snapped in half Weidman won the first fight out and out, Silva had that poo poo coming too and it was amazing. The second fight though, come on, anyone can break their leg if they get really, really unlucky. People slam much much much smaller, more delicate bones against hard poo poo on the body every minute of a fight. Silva got incredibly unlucky at probably the worst time for his legacy - and I am not saying Weidman didn't check the kick, because it's obvious he did. But you can't check in such a way as it will reliably break your opponents leg, dude got lucky. I'd like to see a rematch but the timing is stupid, and sensible timing would probably finally put Anderson past his athletic window, even if he is a freak at fighting.
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Did you forget the part where Weidman knocked Silva out in the first round in the rematch? At no point was Silva winning in any of the 1.5 rounds of both fights with Weidman. Silva even said he would never make another title run again after losing that fight. I figure this whole title shot business is just Dana saying Things again (without saying whatever Silva's intentions are), to give the perception that this Diaz fight actually means something.
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I mean if Silva is really gunning for the fight and sitting in Dana's office everyday begging for it or something then I guess more power to him, I just don't know that I want to pay the new and improved PPV price of 59.95 to see him die over and over to the same person. (Though I'll buy it anyway if they keep pairing Weidman with Rhonda on every card.)
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Foul Fowl posted:the janitor is no longer with the ufc, i'm afraid. he lost to joey beltran via north south choke in bellator and retired. he would still beat cormier
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EDIT ^^^ beaten like Anderson Silva's tetherball leg Agreed posted:Weidman won the first fight out and out, Silva had that poo poo coming too and it was amazing. The second fight though, come on, anyone can break their leg if they get really, really unlucky. People slam much much much smaller, more delicate bones against hard poo poo on the body every minute of a fight. Silva got incredibly unlucky at probably the worst time for his legacy - and I am not saying Weidman didn't check the kick, because it's obvious he did. But you can't check in such a way as it will reliably break your opponents leg, dude got lucky. I honestly don't think so. One could argue that Weidman's titanium steel body could have possibly not broken Silva's leg and that was just bad luck/a bad angle, but it wasn't like Silva was stomping Weidman up to that point. He was losing pretty handily, even though Anderson came into that fight all business and not pulling that weird Looney Tunes mind games dancing poo poo. Anderson is still an amazing fighter but whatever Weidman does is like the perfect counter, and Silva/the fans need to accept that with grace.
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Mazzagatti2Hotty posted:I mean if Silva is really gunning for the fight and sitting in Dana's office everyday begging for it or something then I guess more power to him, I just don't know that I want to pay the new and improved PPV price of 59.95 to see him die over and over to the same person. (Though I'll buy it anyway if they keep pairing Weidman with Rhonda on every card.) Ronda. No H. david carmichael posted:he would still beat cormier I've never been a huge DC fan, but you're out of your mind if you think the janitor has anything for him. I think he still mops the floor with a large swath of LHWs.
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I like the level of revisionist history the internet has crafted regarding the Weidman Silva fights, it is excellent and will lead to much-demanded matchups such as Weidman vs. Silva 7 and Nick Diaz vs Brock Lesnar.
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I had actually forgotten that Weidman had almost KOd Silva in the first round of the second fight, so I rewatched it. Ezekiel choke. Cool. Rogan and Goldberg freaking out ("good shots from the bottom!") whenever Silva does anything. But the way that Silva dropped from that short hook in the first round. That makes me think that age has caught up with his chin.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Ronda. No H. the only one mopping any floors is vlad
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Cuckoo posted:EDIT ^^^ beaten like Anderson Silva's tetherball leg You may be right. I don't know. But I feel like I'm pretty in tune with the average moron here, being one myself. I'd like to see the fight because I don't think Chris stole it but I feel like there's a great fight there that just didn't happen. THAT SAID, I don't want to see it right now, or in any realistic time frame. It's really short-sighted even just for straight up $$$ reasons to gently caress around with matchmaking like this. Related but separate thought - what does a promotion do with high-draw, very limited time fighters, though? If you don't let a guy like Silva fight -right now- it's over soon. If anyone hires Brock Lesnar in MMA, they better pump some fights out of him really quickly too. The whole draw is almost in the freakshow aspect of it. What would legitimately be a good fight for Silva, at this point? Is there a good fight for him at his age and given his history in MMA? A bad opponent is a joke, a great one is too much of a risk? Should he just retire, and if so, you want to tell him?
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There's a lot of casuals, and probably regular fans too, who write off the two fights as Silva getting caught and Silva getting hurt. A third fight would likely do huge numbers, like the last one, which the UFC is no doubt interested in. Silva didn't want the last fight and they talked him into it. Could happen again.
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vlad wiped the floors with dc's mentor when he was a mere teen, and then wiped the floors with a shammy cloth
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Agreed posted:You may be right. I don't know. But I feel like I'm pretty in tune with the average moron here, being one myself. I'd like to see the fight because I don't think Chris stole it but I feel like there's a great fight there that just didn't happen. THAT SAID, I don't want to see it right now, or in any realistic time frame. It's really short-sighted even just for straight up $$$ reasons to gently caress around with matchmaking like this. let them fight the frank mir of their division, who in this case would be nick diaz.
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*Chris Weidman rips Anderson Silva's head off* Well yeah, but anyone's head can just be ripped off in a fluke
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Detroit_Dogg posted:*Chris Weidman rips Anderson Silva's head off* If they duct tape his head back on he'll go in there and kick Weidman's rear end for real this time
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The fight won't happen though because diaz will win and then fight and beat robbie lawler for the belt.
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Agreed posted:Related but separate thought - what does a promotion do with high-draw, very limited time fighters, though? If you don't let a guy like Silva fight -right now- it's over soon. If anyone hires Brock Lesnar in MMA, they better pump some fights out of him really quickly too. The whole draw is almost in the freakshow aspect of it. What would legitimately be a good fight for Silva, at this point? Is there a good fight for him at his age and given his history in MMA? A bad opponent is a joke, a great one is too much of a risk? Should he just retire, and if so, you want to tell him? I'm all for giving him great opponents, just not Weidman. At least not off of a win over Nick Diaz, whose style is in no way reminiscent of Weidman's whatsoever and will tell us nothing about how a third Weidman fight would go differently. Give him the biggest money fights you can while he's still physically capable and if, along the way, it looks like he's ready for another title shot then do it.
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Keven. Just. Keven posted:The fight won't happen though because diaz will win and then fight and beat robbie lawler for the belt. This would be the perfect next step to make this a year to remember in the UFC
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Cuckoo posted:EDIT ^^^ beaten like Anderson Silva's tetherball leg Weidman definitely won the first round, but it's not like Silva has never dropped the first round and come back to win before (Henderson, Sonnen). It depends on what condition Silva is in, but I don't think a third fight would be leading a lamb to the slaughter or anything. I'd like to see Jacare get his shot first though.
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You know Silva said after the second lose to Weidman that he'd be willing to fight anyone, even Machida, to get back at the title. If he beats Diaz make that fight.
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Agreed posted:What would legitimately be a good fight for Silva, at this point? Is there a good fight for him at his age and given his history in MMA? A bad opponent is a joke, a great one is too much of a risk? Should he just retire, and if so, you want to tell him? Silva vs CM punk, million plus buys to watch Silva destroy him within a minute
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Agreed posted:Weidman won the first fight out and out, Silva had that poo poo coming too and it was amazing. The second fight though, come on, anyone can break their leg if they get really, really unlucky. People slam much much much smaller, more delicate bones against hard poo poo on the body every minute of a fight. Silva got incredibly unlucky at probably the worst time for his legacy - and I am not saying Weidman didn't check the kick, because it's obvious he did. But you can't check in such a way as it will reliably break your opponents leg, dude got lucky. Weidman checked his kick, it wasnt luck
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Ufc signed joseph duffy, guy who has all ready beat conor mcgregor and norman parke
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:Weidman checked his kick, it wasnt luck No poo poo. He definitely checked the kick. It wasn't luck that he checked the kick. It was luck that the result of doing so wasn't just a block, or a painful bruise, or even just a good opportunity to wail on Silva for second. Those things are pretty predictable when you successfully check a kick. The other dude's leg snapping in half is a major accident. Sure, it resulted in the total disabling of Silva and so he won the fight fair and square. It was also luckier than the most puncher's-chance knockout I've ever seen.
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Agreed posted:No poo poo. He definitely checked the kick. It wasn't luck that he checked the kick. It was luck that the result of doing so wasn't just a block, or a painful bruise, or even just a good opportunity to wail on Silva for second. Those things are pretty predictable when you successfully check a kick. The other dude's leg snapping in half is a major accident. Sure, it resulted in the total disabling of Silva and so he won the fight fair and square. It was also luckier than the most puncher's-chance knockout I've ever seen.  This is some of the most retarded poo poo I've ever read, and I really hate when I have to read retarded poo poo which I've read before. This garbage about it being "luck" that it broke is not only false, it's the same drivel which idiots on sherdog were saying years ago. It wasn't luck when Spong's leg broke. It wasn't luck when Taylor's leg broke. It's no more "luck" than a punch causing a broken metacarpal. It's a basic and fundamental risk of the activity. Quit saying stupid things.
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Agreed posted:No poo poo. He definitely checked the kick. It wasn't luck that he checked the kick. It was luck that the result of doing so wasn't just a block, or a painful bruise, or even just a good opportunity to wail on Silva for second. Those things are pretty predictable when you successfully check a kick. The other dude's leg snapping in half is a major accident. Sure, it resulted in the total disabling of Silva and so he won the fight fair and square. It was also luckier than the most puncher's-chance knockout I've ever seen. Its not common, but it is common enough not to be luck. Silva threw a kick with bad technique and weidman checked it perfectly, happens in muay thai a lot more than mma fights but it happens in both. equating it to punchers chance is stupid
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EvanSchenck posted:Yoel already beat Kennedy to get a fight with Jacare, which was a likely title eliminator before Dana announced this trilogy fight. I guess one could, like Tim Kennedy, whine pathetically about how that outcome was the result of confusion and possible cheating when Yoel didn't get up to start the third round, but that's a different argument (also wrong). Errr, I confused Kennedy with Rockhold. loving white people all look the same.
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Agreed posted:Related but separate thought - what does a promotion do with high-draw, very limited time fighters, though? You put them in high-profile marquee matchups with big name fighters that A) do not currently hold a title and B) they have not fought before.
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I'm listening to Rogan's recent podcast with Stann and he's now claiming that the best base for MMA is having an abusive brother that beats you up when growing up
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