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I'm pretty much done with TF2 because they smoothed out the burst damage from non-melee weapons. Without burst damage most game modes become slogs, sentry's and healing become too strong and of course the number of demomen who can actually demolish stuff is usually hovering near zero. They've also screwed up the balance between speed and health, the charging targe was the beginning of the end, but now most classes can move faster then they were originally supposed to often without a downside.
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Can you still sticky jumper to the sniper positions and ullapool caber the super blind snipers. I had a loving blast doing that on koth_lake or whatever its called.
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Jan 14, 2015 17:41
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Powercrazy posted:I'm pretty much done with TF2 because they smoothed out the burst damage from non-melee weapons. Without burst damage most game modes become slogs, sentry's and healing become too strong and of course the number of demomen who can actually demolish stuff is usually hovering near zero. 
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Jan 14, 2015 17:43
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FactsAreUseless posted:What's everyone's favorite class? My favorite is every class except Heavy and Medic, I play all of them. Pyro is pretty much all I play. I love the Backburner so much.
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Jan 14, 2015 17:47
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Yea it sucks because the physics and mechanics of TF2 were really appealing to me.
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Jan 14, 2015 17:49
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Powercrazy posted:Yea it sucks because the physics and mechanics of TF2 were really appealing to me. No I meant that the game is still really fun and an Uber can still murder a sentry easily.
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Jan 14, 2015 17:50
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Eye of Widesauron posted:No I meant that the game is still really fun and an Uber can still murder a sentry easily. Good luck finding an uber 
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Jan 14, 2015 17:51
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Powercrazy posted:Good luck finding an uber I never have any problems with that.
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Jan 14, 2015 17:52
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It would be pretty cool if someone set up a server and we could all play. I would host one but my modem I have is some proprietary bullshit where I have to call my ISP to change the ports. I wouldn't mind going through all that if a sizable amount of people want it tho.
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Jan 14, 2015 17:54
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Eye of Widesauron posted:I never have any problems with that. Pub stomping with your friend on Mumble doesn't count. I've found that whenever I play on random servers there is usually never a medic, or if there is a medic he is using the quickfix or vaccinator, or he is battle-medicing. On the rare case there actually is a medic, and he is using uber (or kritz) and he IS actually healing someone besides his pocket heavy it's usually a roll because the other team isn't doing any of that.
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Jan 14, 2015 17:56
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Wootman posted:It would be pretty cool if someone set up a server and we could all play. I would host one but my modem I have is some proprietary bullshit where I have to call my ISP to change the ports. I wouldn't mind going through all that if a sizable amount of people want it tho. There will be enough people for about 30 minutes, then everyone will start gimmicking and it will be indistinguishable from a normal quickplay server, then everyone will leave and never return.
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Jan 14, 2015 17:58
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Powercrazy posted:Pub stomping with your friend on Mumble doesn't count. It sounds like you're getting lovely servers. There are several good ones in the browser despite the Games mantra of they are all furry/mlp/mann machine servers. If I ask for an uber I don't have a problem getting one most of the time. If a server sucks I leave it and blacklist it.
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Jan 14, 2015 17:58
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Powercrazy posted:There will be enough people for about 30 minutes, then everyone will start gimmicking and it will be indistinguishable from a normal quickplay server, then everyone will leave and never return. Why would you ever use quick play?
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Jan 14, 2015 17:59
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Powercrazy posted:There will be enough people for about 30 minutes, then everyone will start gimmicking and it will be indistinguishable from a normal quickplay server, then everyone will leave and never return. I'm only ever gonna host it when a bunch of people wanna play and I'm up. Not gonna be a 24/7, and I can install some fun poo poo like TF2Ware when we wanna mess around.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:00
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Scout is fun because he is fast and has a shotgun, plus he has funny quips, but I like to play soldier because I am bad at the game and have lovely aiming skills due to my console fps upbriniging. I dont give a gently caress about balance, and neither should you unless you're a "competetive TF2 player" (lol).
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Jan 14, 2015 18:07
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Eye of Widesauron posted:Why would you ever use quick play? Because all the servers on my favorites list are either empty or full. I have furry pound #4, and STARS_ as consistently full good servers, which is great when i get in. But what about when I don't? Psycobladder posted:Scout is fun because he is fast and has a shotgun, plus he has funny quips, but I like to play soldier because I am bad at the game and have lovely aiming skills due to my console fps upbriniging. I dont give a gently caress about balance, and neither should you unless you're a "competetive TF2 player" (lol). Balance is important for a good game whether casual or competitive, idiot.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:08
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Wootman posted:Pyro is pretty much all I play. I love the Backburner so much. I call it the Blackburner, Lol.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:10
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I like scout but it seems like he has a high skill ceiling and the people who have played that class for the last decade are going to be way better. Heavy is cool because everyone who plays him employs the same strategy of "walk from a to b while unloading bullets and laughing maniacally."
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Jan 14, 2015 18:10
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Pewdiepie posted:I call it the Blackburner, Lol. same
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Jan 14, 2015 18:10
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Powercrazy posted:Pub stomping with your friend on Mumble doesn't count. Hell, a team with a medic that actually heals already has a huge advantage over a team that doesnt
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Jan 14, 2015 18:12
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PantsBandit posted:Heavy is cool because everyone who plays him employs the same strategy of "walk from a to b while unloading bullets and laughing maniacally." If you play payload (the most popular gamemode) you don't even have to walk, the cart will just push you and eventually you'll win, welcome to tf2  qnqnx posted:Hell, a team with a medic that actually heals already has a huge advantage over a team that doesnt Right but what happens in that case is the team with the medic dominates the team without, so in response the whole other team goes engineer and turtles at spawn. So after rolling the first 3 points, the last one never gets captured because the medics have no idea what they are doing and refuse to use anything but the quickfix. Then of course your team ends up with 5 spies (to counter the engineers  ), 2 QF medics a heavy and 3 demoknights and surprisingly you can't take last.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:19
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Balance is good, but in a game like TF2 with a million loving items, balance is impossible. Also I question the pursuit of "balance", in fighting games there are always characters that end up being better than the rest, just look at MvC2. That game was extremely imbalanced, but it was those dicrepencies and the changing meta that kep it so popular in the competative scene. Trying to balance TF2 is like trying to balance smash while playing with items on, its a fools goal.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:24
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Powercrazy posted:If you play payload (the most popular gamemode) you don't even have to walk, the cart will just push you and eventually you'll win, welcome to tf2 Snipers are a hard counter to heavies. If there's a heavy being a problem a head shot can solve that really fast. It sucks when you chronically have like 10 of them but that sounds like a lovely server problem. Most of these problems sound like you just keep playing quick play and hitting really bad servers.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:27
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Eye of Widesauron posted:Most of these problems sound like you just keep playing quick play and hitting really bad servers. Yea, that is ultimately the problem. It's hard to find a good game of TF2 these days.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:45
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FactsAreUseless posted:What's everyone's favorite class? My favorite is every class except Heavy and Medic, I play all of them. Scout, and Sniper.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:54
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I also like the Demo Man but, I'm not that good at it.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:56
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Sandvich.
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Other then the really bad item stuff, and payload, and criticals, and the fact that half the items are OP without criticals, and the medic, and a couple other things my biggest complaint is projectiles come out of the side of the screen rather than in the middle.
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Jan 14, 2015 18:58
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lol still whining about the medic in TYOOL 2015 Medic is fine, game was designed around the uber mechanic.
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Jan 14, 2015 19:28
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I love raping noobs with the soldier.
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Jan 14, 2015 19:30
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Powercrazy posted:lol still whining about the medic in TYOOL 2015 Tis one of the problems.
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Engineer is pretty bad as well and makes the CTF in the game one of the worst in gaming history.
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Wootman posted:It would be pretty cool if someone set up a server and we could all play. I would host one but my modem I have is some proprietary bullshit where I have to call my ISP to change the ports. I wouldn't mind going through all that if a sizable amount of people want it tho. I have a VPS with I think enough resources to run a medium size TF2 server. I never use it for anything besides some extremely basic (and bad) coding projects that I want to show people.
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Larry Parrish posted:I have a VPS with I think enough resources to run a medium size TF2 server. I never use it for anything besides some extremely basic (and bad) coding projects that I want to show people. I wouldn't go through the trouble since the server will be completely empty 24/7 within 2 weeks, as happens with all "We could all play together" goon projects.
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Jan 14, 2015 19:36
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Wormskull posted:Engineer is pretty bad as well and makes the CTF in the game one of the worst in gaming history. CTF is a bad game mode unless you are playing tribes.
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Jan 14, 2015 19:38
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Wormskull posted:I wouldn't go through the trouble since the server will be completely empty 24/7 within 2 weeks, as happens with all "We could all play together" goon projects. The joke is I wouldn't even play it because I can't stand TF2 except for the co-op mode anymore.
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Jan 14, 2015 19:38
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Powercrazy posted:CTF is a bad game mode unless you are playing tribes. I assume you meant Quake, but, agreed.
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Jan 14, 2015 19:39
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Larry Parrish posted:The joke is I wouldn't even play it because I can't stand TF2 except for the co-op mode anymore. We could use it for other Source games maybe, it doesn't have to be running 24/7. Just running whenever anyone wants to play a game or gently caress around.
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Jan 14, 2015 19:59
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Wootman posted:We could use it for other Source games maybe, it doesn't have to be running 24/7. Just running whenever anyone wants to play a game or gently caress around. Also I've never done it before so it would be a learning experience I guess.
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Larry Parrish posted:Also I've never done it before so it would be a learning experience I guess. Its not hard at all tbh
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