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radical meme posted:Tarrant County is demonstrably worse That's all you had to say.
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ReidRansom posted:And it's on History Channel? Actual history? I may have to reconnect my cable before it starts airing. Hah, as if that "dramatization" will have anything to do with the actual history past names and dates. I particularly like the brief shot of the black man being led away in chains as if colonial expansion of slavery wasn't the entire loving point of white Americans coming to Texas, and as if the Mexican abolition of slavery wasn't the entire loving reason the Texians revolted against Mexico.
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Jan 14, 2015 23:05
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BatteredFeltFedora posted:Hah, as if that "dramatization" will have anything to do with the actual history past names and dates. So it will be just like my Texas History class 
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Jan 14, 2015 23:06
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BatteredFeltFedora posted:Hah, as if that "dramatization" will have anything to do with the actual history past names and dates. Actually it was freedom.
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Jan 14, 2015 23:07
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Trabisnikof posted:That's all you had to say. Hey now, compared to Dallas, Johnson, Parker and Denton, Tarrant is practically an urban paradise. At least Tarrant's "most popular tourist site" isn't the location of a presidential assassination.
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Jan 14, 2015 23:07
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zoux posted:Actually it was freedom. Oh, my mistake then.
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Jan 14, 2015 23:10
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Whoa HUGE FIGHT BREWIN'
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Jan 14, 2015 23:10
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My favorite part of that documentary is how absolutely "300" the Mexican atrocities resemble Persian atrocities.
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Jan 14, 2015 23:11
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I dunno, for me it's the pretty boy playing loving Lamar of all people. as 
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Jan 14, 2015 23:17
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zoux posted:As a newsitem to you filthy Texas transplants that post in this thread with your California senisibilies: all public school students take a year of Texas history in seventh grade, so those men and women are icons to us. As a preface, my wife likes to call me her carpetbagging yankee. With that in mind, I've been to the Bob Bullock museum and I left there with the distinct impression that Texas, outside of Sam Houston, was founded by a bunch assholes ("Come and take it" comes to mind). Edit: And still full of assholes a century after its founding... 
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Jan 14, 2015 23:24
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spoon daddy posted:As a preface, my wife likes to call me her carpetbagging yankee. With that in mind, I've been to the Bob Bullock museum and I left there with the distinct impression that Texas, outside of Sam Houston, was founded by a bunch assholes ("Come and take it" comes to mind). So was America bud.
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Jan 14, 2015 23:26
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BatteredFeltFedora posted:Hah, as if that "dramatization" will have anything to do with the actual history past names and dates. "* - based on actual history" is still a hell of a lot closer to the real thing than whatever they were showing last time I looked.
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Jan 14, 2015 23:28
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Nonsense posted:My favorite part of that documentary is how absolutely "300" the Mexican atrocities resemble Persian atrocities. I was intrigued by the scenes showing American Indian involvement. I seriously didn't remember, was probably never taught, anything significant involving Indian tribes in the Texas Revolution. A quick google lead me to the fact that there are two Indian Reservations in Texas; something else I never knew. I implore the Alabama-Coushatta tribe to immediately build a casino on Lake Livingston. The Kickapoo tribe's reservation is on the Mexico border, south of Eagle Pass and I'm not going anywhere near that place.
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Jan 14, 2015 23:41
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radical meme posted:I was intrigued by the scenes showing American Indian involvement. I seriously didn't remember, was probably never taught, anything significant involving Indian tribes in the Texas Revolution. A quick google lead me to the fact that there are two Indian Reservations in Texas; something else I never knew. I implore the Alabama-Coushatta tribe to immediately build a casino on Lake Livingston. The Kickapoo tribe's reservation is on the Mexico border, south of Eagle Pass and I'm not going anywhere near that place. The Comanche and Lipan Apache were the major tribes in Texas when the Spanish showed up and they, I think, were eliminated as a going concern in the 1870's.
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Jan 14, 2015 23:46
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radical meme posted:I was intrigued by the scenes showing American Indian involvement. I seriously didn't remember, was probably never taught, anything significant involving Indian tribes in the Texas Revolution. A quick google lead me to the fact that there are two Indian Reservations in Texas; something else I never knew. I implore the Alabama-Coushatta tribe to immediately build a casino on Lake Livingston. The Kickapoo tribe's reservation is on the Mexico border, south of Eagle Pass and I'm not going anywhere near that place. The native involvement in this is good because the United States used native troops pretty much throughout the expansion of the West, many were hard fought enemies and then they joined once they lost so they can fight the stronger Indians who they originally quarreled with before the US Army and settlers showed up. Other than that I'm pretty sold on Bill Paxton, it would be nice if they show his staunch opposition to joining the Confederacy despite the piece being more antebellum.
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Jan 14, 2015 23:54
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This Indian stuff is interesting. I found this, which definitely sounds like the invisible hand of washington lobbyists was at work herequote:In 1987, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that since federally recognized Indian tribes are considered sovereign entities they could have casinos outside of state jurisdiction. Yeah, can't have those indigenous tribes earning their own money. radical meme fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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Jan 14, 2015 23:59
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How can the federal government enforce a ban if the tribes are sovereign?
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Jan 15, 2015 00:01
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radical meme posted:This Indian stuff is interesting. I found this, which definitely sounds like the invisible hand of washington lobbyists was at work here Wasn't it Abbott who sued to shut them down?
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Jan 15, 2015 00:13
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BatteredFeltFedora posted:Hah, as if that "dramatization" will have anything to do with the actual history past names and dates. No you see brown < white so............. Also I get Paxton and Quaid confused so my reaction to that "trailer" was AGAIN??? Also I counted one Mexican villain, and Seguin as token hero that will be eventually be betrayed, and someone named Francisco. Yep that's what I learned in history one Mexican dictator, and one Native Hispanic Texan EVER.
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Jan 15, 2015 00:36
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Badger of Basra posted:How can the federal government enforce a ban if the tribes are sovereign? Sheldon Adelson contribution money trumps tribe sovereignity.
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Jan 15, 2015 00:38
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Jiro posted:No you see brown < white so............. Also I get Paxton and Quaid confused so my reaction to that "trailer" was AGAIN??? Also I counted one Mexican villain, and Seguin as token hero that will be eventually be betrayed, and someone named Francisco. Yep that's what I learned in history one Mexican dictator, and one Native Hispanic Texan EVER. I'm not sure if this is ironic but that's literally the exact thing I learned in my Texas history class.
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Jan 15, 2015 00:58
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Badger of Basra posted:How can the federal government enforce a ban if the tribes are sovereign?  Jiro posted:No you see brown < white so............. Also I get Paxton and Quaid confused so my reaction to that "trailer" was AGAIN??? Also I counted one Mexican villain, and Seguin as token hero that will be eventually be betrayed, and someone named Francisco. Yep that's what I learned in history one Mexican dictator, and one Native Hispanic Texan EVER. 
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Jan 15, 2015 01:22
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Heck I never learned about Seguin until collage.
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Jan 15, 2015 01:32
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spoon daddy posted:Edit: And still full of assholes a century after its founding... They're not alone...
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Jan 15, 2015 01:57
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spoon daddy posted:... I've been to the Bob Bullock museum ... People not from Texas really need to visit this place. Not because it will give you an introduction to Texas history (which I guess it will, and honestly some of the stuff there is pretty cool), but because the place is so wildly overblown. It's like something built by Turkmenbashi. [edit] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKckRXKRmRg
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Jan 15, 2015 02:14
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Here's a statue of a pecan. Not everybody likes it.
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Badger of Basra posted:I'm not sure if this is ironic but that's literally the exact thing I learned in my Texas history class. Its loving sad is what it is. I'm both sides Hispanic growing up in the Rio Grande Valley and that's what I learned in my advanced Tx History class in middle school. There's MAYBE a famous Zavaleta mentioned in the War for Independence everything else is white washed out. If you actually read up on Seguin's life after the war it gets super loving sad. Also why does Brendan Fraiser look like Hawkeye from Last of the Mohecans? On Netflix there's a great PBS doc series about Latino Americans from colonial period up to present day. Does a good cross section of the Texas Revolution.
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Jiro posted:Its loving sad is what it is. I'm both sides Hispanic growing up in the Rio Grande Valley and that's what I learned in my advanced Tx History class in middle school. There's MAYBE a famous Zavaleta mentioned in the War for Independence everything else is white washed out. If you actually read up on Seguin's life after the war it gets super loving sad. Also why does Brendan Fraiser look like Hawkeye from Last of the Mohecans? On Netflix there's a great PBS doc series about Latino Americans from colonial period up to present day. Does a good cross section of the Texas Revolution. What's the series called? Also I forgot something! We learned Galveston was named after Gálvez.
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Jan 15, 2015 02:33
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Badger of Basra posted:What's the series called? Also I forgot something! We learned Galveston was named after Gálvez. When I was in Texas History in 1972 we learned to sing "Texas, Our Texas". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbJC6recwOQ
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Jan 15, 2015 02:51
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Psh gently caress that. I'm from here (Texas, not Austin) and I didn't learn a drat thing in 7th grade Texas history class because I was too busy getting referrals for not saying the Texas Pledge of Allegiance. That was in 2002  Open Carry Texas is pretty hosed up. I know a hardcore teapartier gun enthusiast who doesn't like them. I'm pretty stunned though that just anybody can stroll into the capital to start harassing people. Can you do that in other states?
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Jan 15, 2015 03:06
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"Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible."
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Jan 15, 2015 03:17
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zoux posted:"Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible." I remember a teacher getting mad a student wouldn't put his hand to his heart for the Texas pledge in high school.
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Jan 15, 2015 03:20
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Badger of Basra posted:What's the series called? Also I forgot something! We learned Galveston was named after Gálvez. It's on Netflix called Latino Americans, six episodes really really good. Made my dad cry when we got up to the labor strikes and Chicano movements during the sixties and seventies since he and my mom and both of their families were migrant workers down here and around parts of California. I learned a lot from this series that I never knew about Texas Latino History. It also covers the Puerto Rican migration to New York, Colonial California, Cuban migration to Florida, Dominican migration to New York as well. One ironically hilarious bit was a New Mexico armed protester campaigning to get ancestral land back from the government his family and others lost when New Mexico became part of the US. Calling for a return of his ancestor's land...........in New Mexico........yeah you can't say we didn't have a sense of humor.
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Jan 15, 2015 03:54
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Lone Star is a pretty good Texas movie, although there is a twist and plot point towards the end that weirded me out when I saw it. In other news, one of my former friends recently became the BGTX field director. http://blog.mysanantonio.com/texas-politics/2015/01/battleground-texas-replaces-field-director/ He's very politically minded, but I honestly don't have much faith. He has a lot of charisma and charm but I still think he is very inexperienced with the political game. I honestly think there are much more capable people out there.
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Jan 15, 2015 14:20
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Gun Toter-in-Chief Jerry Patterson thinks that Tuesday's bullshit will make it harder to pass open carry.
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zoux posted:Gun Toter-in-Chief Jerry Patterson thinks that Tuesday's bullshit will make it harder to pass open carry. Brilliant political work here: quote:In a video posted Tuesday online by Kory Watkins, the Tarrant County group's leader, open-carry activists can be heard calling Nevarez "a tyrant to the Constitution" and telling him he "won't be here very long, bro." Nevarez, who repeatedly asked the group to leave, later said he was concerned for the safety of his staff, family and constituents and complained one activist "reeked of marijuana."
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zoux posted:Gun Toter-in-Chief Jerry Patterson thinks that Tuesday's bullshit will make it harder to pass open carry. The leader of Open Carry Tarrant County posted:Panic button for the master for when slaves speak out. Nothing to worry about. Honey Boo Boo on later. Holy crap the victim complex of these people.
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Jan 15, 2015 17:32
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All the open carry people have been super quick to say "Oh everyone hates those guys we aren't like them at all and we already don't like them". I don't know how true that is but personally if I find myself on the same political side as awful assholes I take a long look at the places where our ideologies overlap.
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Jan 15, 2015 17:32
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No they're right, those crazy open carry people are a small, fringe, minority of people who support open carry and they just happen to to constantly have large events and crazy active communities in most gun fan circles, and happen to have a moderate amount of political sway, supported by the already existing pro gun political machines.
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Layoffs are starting to hit oil companies. Anecdotally my neighbor (PE who does industrial construction design contracting) said he's heard that firms specializing in oil and energy work have seen contracts dry up lately.
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