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Tekopo posted:Also apparently I missed the fact that you can't place two air units next to each other anyway? Oh well. Do you still wish to place the CV Strike?
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Not if it isn't going to do anything, no.
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Jan 16, 2015 17:40
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Tekopo posted:Also, the war has finally started !!!
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Jan 16, 2015 18:51
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Nothing to do over in Germany
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Jan 16, 2015 23:40
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Tekopo posted:Place on Air marker on 4723, the other on 4825. I'm also going to nitpick this because it's actually pretty important: you placed two air support units. The difference between markers and units comes up a lot - the big one for air support is that they block enemy units from entering their hex and from tracing supply through it.
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Jan 17, 2015 00:21
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Yeah, I just called them marker, I knew that they were units though.
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Jan 17, 2015 00:23
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blackmongoose posted:I'm also going to nitpick this because it's actually pretty important: you placed two air support units. The difference between markers and units comes up a lot - the big one for air support is that they block enemy units from entering their hex and from tracing supply through it. So an air support marker would not have the previous descriptions?
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Jan 17, 2015 03:21
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Lord Frisk posted:So an air support marker would not have the previous descriptions? There aren't any air support markers as all air support counters are units - most markers are things like influence markers or blitz markers that just show where something is happening. The rules generally draw very clear distinctions between markers and units, with a further distinction between ground units, and support units. There is a special rule that detachment markers, logistics markers, and partisan markers block supply, but they still don't stop enemy units from entering their hex. Airdrop markers are the weird ones - they act like a unit for most purposes, but for some reason they're still called a marker despite having all the characteristics of a unit and none of a marker which I can only imagine is some sort of oversight.
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Jan 17, 2015 03:59
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That's hugely helpful, as well as concise and appropriate. This game has been a great learning tool, and I'm excited to see what happens.
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Jan 17, 2015 04:09
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Axis places a Japanese Air Force in w4723 and w4825. Two Japanese 1-1-1 infantry are removed and a Japanese 2-1-1 HQ is placed in w4725 (Shanghai). The Japanese 2-2-1 infantry in w4524 is moved to w4624. A Japanese 2-1-1 infantry in w5125 (Dairen) is moved to w4725 (Shanghai) by Troop Convoy. An attack is declared against w4724 (Nanking) Attackers: Japanese 2-2-1 infantry in w4624 Japanese 2-2-1 infantry in w4725 (Shanghai) Japanese 2-1-1 infantry in w4725 (Shanghai) Japanese 2-1-1 HQ in w4725 (Shanghai) Defenders: Kiangsu 2-3-1 infantry Kiangsu 0-1-0 garrison Raw CRT Ratio: 2-1 The Air Forces and HQ provide three right column shifts. Attacking a city provides one left column shift. Roll on the 4-1/5-1 CRT column: 2 Defender Retreat 2 0/0 Map and Axis DS Force Pool updated. Western, please post how you would like to retreat your Forces.
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Jan 17, 2015 06:47
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Take a step loss on the 0-1-0, retreat the 2-3-1 NW to 4824
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Jan 17, 2015 19:11
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Move up the 2-2-1 infantries (the one in Shangai and the one in 4624, leave the rest where they are. Reserve Movement Move the step in Dairen to Shangai using the troop transport.
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Jan 18, 2015 13:05
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Western removes the Kiangsu 0-1-0 Garrison in w4724 (Nanking) to the Force Pool, and moves the Kiangsu 2-3-1 infantry to w4824. Axis moves the two Japanese 2-2-1 infantry in w4725 (Shanghai) and w4624 into w4724 (Nanking). The Japanese 1-1-1 infantry in w5125 (Dairen) is moved to w4725 (Shanghai) using the Troop Convoy in the Yellow Sea. Western Jan-Feb 1938 Western rolls on the Philippine Independence table: 4-1=3 Roll on the Strategy Board table: 5-1=4 Conflicting Plans: No Result Map and DS Western Force Pool updated. Western, please post your actions for the turn.
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Op moves: Move Kiangsu 3 army to Kaifeng. No combat Res moves: Move Kiangsu 3 army to Chengchow That's all for US and Kiangsu
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Western moves the Kiangsu 2-3-1 infantry in w4824 to w4923 (Kalfeng) No attacks are declared. The Kiangsu 2-3-1 infantry in w4923 (Kalfeng) is moved to w4922 (Changchow) Soviet Jan-Feb 1938 Soviet rolls on the Eastern Bloc table: 3-1=2 Diplomatic Success: Balkans Roll on the Balkans Area Table: 2 Influence is applied to Bulgaria. Roll on the Asian Diplomacy table, selecting Sinkiang: 6-1=5 Roll on the Colonialism table: 2-1=1 Roll on the Strategy Board table: 3-1=2 Japan Supports Nationalists Map updated. Axis, please post how you wish to resolve the event. Soviet, please post your actions for the turn.
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Jan 20, 2015 23:15
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Intern Canton and place a detachment there.
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Jan 20, 2015 23:18
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Axis places a Japanese detachment in w4321 and interns the Kiangsu 0-1-0 Garrison there. Map, DS Axis Force Pool, and Current and Pending Options updated. Soviet, please post your actions for the turn.
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Jan 21, 2015 14:43
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No support/combos/ops I want to do this round. Hopeh and Szechuan are acting as nice buffers... for now 
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Jan 21, 2015 14:56
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And just so I understand right - is the Soviet faction at war, or is Communist China at war? Very important distinction I need to understand. One means that the SU can't invade Japan, the other means it can. I can't find anything in the rulebook about what the "Border Disputes" policy actually means. edit-- nevermind, PACs just clicked for me. The policies are basically varying levels of "this country won't be in the war for a while." Border Disputes means "a little while." Neutrality means "most of the war." Etc. Count Thrashula fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Jan 21, 2015 |
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Jan 21, 2015 15:01
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The way it works is that if there is a marker, the faction is not at war. If there is no marker (like for example, Communist China and Nationalist China), then there is war. The name of the marker itself does not matter apart for the fact that if you have to remove a marker, you have to remove all markers of that name (which is the reason why I'm at war with both Chinas atm). Thus the SU is currently NOT at war with Japan.
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Tekopo posted:The way it works is that if there is a marker, the faction is not at war. If there is no marker (like for example, Communist China and Nationalist China), then there is war. The name of the marker itself does not matter apart for the fact that if you have to remove a marker, you have to remove all markers of that name (which is the reason why I'm at war with both Chinas atm). Right, that makes sense now. See my edit above.
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End of Jan-Feb 1938 Turn Turn is advanced to Mar-Apr 1938. Japanese Kwatung Logistics marker is added to DS Axis Force Pool. Kiangsu 1-1-1 infantry (Exp) is added to DS Western Force Pool. Soviet Minor Country Production marker is added to DS Strategic Warfare Box. Seasonal Victory Phase TK Strategic Value: 0 Allied Crusade marker remains in 1VP box. DS Strategic Value: +1 Allied Crusade marker is placed in the 0VP box. Axis Mar-Apr 1938 Axis reveals Demand Austria and Imperial Rule Assistance Association. A German 1-2-4 Mountain is placed in the TK Delay Box. A Japanese 1-1-2 infantry [IG] and a Japanese 2-1-1 HQ [Ex] are placed in the DS Delay Box. Replacements: Two German infantry steps One Japanese infantry step Roll for Demand Austria: 1+1-1=1 Country Resists Austria is aligned with Western and has the Locarno Posture. Axis rolls on the International Crisis table: 5-1+1=5 Roll on the Diplomatic Incident table: 3-1+1=3 Coup D'etat I'm going to stop here to make sure I did all of this correctly. If I have, Austria will be activated as a Western Minor, but this will not end the Western Minor Policy. Map, Current and Pending Options, Axis Force Pools, DS Western Force Pool, and Turn Tracks updated. Axis, please PM your pending Option selections. Please post your Replacements, and, if you don't want to see what happens with Austria, your actions for the turn.
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 Looks correct to me! EDIT: As part of my Option Card segment, I will flip my government to Army btw. Tekopo fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jan 21, 2015 |
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Jan 21, 2015 16:34
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Hahahahaha, I don't think I've ever seen Austria successfully resist. I'm pretty sure you have everything right, but I don't have the rulebook on me and country activation in pre-war can get weird. If you follow everything in the coup d'etat section and the country activation section, you should be good. The one thing to pay attention to is whether Germany gets to put the ceded border marker in their force pool to place when they eventually conquer it - I think they do, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Austria is activated as a Western Minor nation. The Austrian 0-1-2 infantry [Res] is added to TK Western Force Pool. The Ceded to Germany: Austria marker is placed in TK Axis Force Pool. Axis may place a Blitz Marker on the TK Map during the Support Segment. Axis flips the Japanese Government marker to its Army side. Map, TK Axis Force Pool, TK Western Force Pool, and DS Axis Organization and Conditionals updated. Axis, please PM me your Pending Option selections. Please post your actions for the turn. In addition, Berlin is violating stacking limits at the moment (the stacking limit is always three units and either three or six steps). Please fix that.
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Jan 21, 2015 17:58
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Oof I can take those replacements in Munich, yeah? Then Berlin would still have 2 units? Sorry can't remember what the composition was before then.
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Majumbo posted:Oof Yeah, you can put the replacements in Munich. Berlin has three one-step infantry and a one-step panzer before replacements, so you either need to combine some infantry steps or move a unit. I know last time you tried to combine infantry I didn't let you, but you've got two-step and three-step infantry in your Force Pool now. Also, before I forget: The Japanese Air Force units are placed in the DS Delay Box, and the Japanese Troop Convoy is placed in the DS Axis Force Pool.
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Let's combine into an army then
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Majumbo posted:Let's combine into an army then Just to confirm, you're combining two of the infantry in Berlin into a two-step, and placing your Replacements in Munich? I also need your Pending Option Card.
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Correct
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Replacements Place a 1-1-1 in Nagasaki. Support Segment Place a Troop Convoy in Yellow Sea, Scratch Troop Convoy in South China Sea. Place the Kwantung Logistics Marker in Dairen. Organization Segment Combine the 1-1-1 step in Shangai into the HQ (making it 3 step HQ). Place a Detachment in Nanking. Operational Movement Move 1-1-1 from Nanking to Canton using the Troop Convoys. Move HQ and 2-1-1 from Shangai to Nanking. Move both 2-2-1 from Nanking to 4723. Combat Segment No Combat Reserve Movement No Reserve Movement Tekopo fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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Two German 1-2-3 infantry are placed in Munich. A Japanese 1-1-1 infantry is placed in Nagasaki. The Kwatung Logistics marker is placed in w5125 (Dairen). A Japanese Troop Convoy is placed in the Yellow Sea. The Axis Scratch Troop Convoy is placed in the South China Sea. A Japanese 1-1-1 infantry in w4725 (Shanghai) is removed and the Japanese 2-1-1 HQ [Nor] is flipped to 3-2-1. A Japanese detachment is placed in w4724 (Nanking). A Japanese 1-1-1 infantry in e4801 (Nagasaki) is moved to w4321 (Canton). Two Japanese 2-2-1 infantry in w4724 (Nanking) are moved to w4723. A Japanese 2-1-1 infantry and the Japanese 3-2-1 HQ [Nor] are moved to w4724 (Nanking). Western Mar-Apr 1938 The Kiangsu 0-1-0 garrison [Can] is returned to the DS Western Force Pool. Western reveals French Rearmament and Relocate Chinese Industries Pacific Commitment One French 3-4-2 infantry is placed in the TK Delay Box. Influence may be applied to one Neutral or Friendly Chinese Country. Replacements: one French infantry step one Nationalist China infantry step Map, Axis Force Pools, DS Western Force Pool, Turn Tracks, and Current and Pending Options updated. Western, please PM your Pending Option selections. Please post how you would like to take your Replacements and how to resolve your events.
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The influence will be applied to Yunnan, so you can go ahead and set them up. I'll do the option cards and other DS stuff when I get home tonight
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Western applies Influence to Yunnan. Yunnan is activated as a Western Minor Country. The Yunnan 0-1-1 infantry [Res] is placed in DS Western Force Pool. The Yunnan 1-1-1 infantry [Exp] is placed in the DS Delay box. The Yunnan 0-1-0 Garrison [Kun] and two Yunnan 0-1-1 infantry are placed in w4418 (Kunming). Roll on the Relocate Chinese Industries table: 5 Conflicting Plans: No Result Map, DS Western Force Pool and DS Turn Track updated.
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Technically setup for minors is only 1 unit per hex, so put 1 of the Yunnan 011s in Kweiyang and one in 4518. Don't forget the mobilization roll and mobilizing marker too! I don't think we want to send any support units to the Pacific yet. Replacements: Kiangsu 1-1-1 exp in Wuhan Admin: Flip 1-1-1 exp to 0-1-0 fortress Op move:Yunnan army moves from 4518 to Kweiyang. Combat: None, mobilizing marker removed in marker segment. Reserve: Both Yunnan armies move from Kweiyang to Kweilin. That should be all for DS, panzeh is up to do French things.
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Put the best 1-step infantry unit I have in Lyon.
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A French 1-1-2 infantry is placed in wEur3118 (Lyon) The Kiansu 1-1-1 infantry [Exp] is placed in wPac4722 (Wuhan) A Yunnan 0-1-1 infantry is placed in wPac4519 (Kweiyang) A Yunnan 0-1-1 infantry is placed in wPac4518 A Mobilizing Marker is placed in Yunnan Yunnan Mobilization roll: 3 Both Yunnan 0-1-1 infantry are flipped to 1-2-1 infantry The Kiansu 1-1-1 infantry [Exp] in wPac4722 (Wuhan) is flipped to a 0-1-0 Fortress [Def] The Yunnan 1-2-1 infantry in wPac4518 moves to wPac4519 (Kweiyang) No attacks are declared. The Mobilizing marker is removed from Yunnan. The two Yunnan 1-2-1 infantry in wPac4519 (Kweiyang) are moved to wPac4420 (Kweilin) Soviet Mar-Apr 1938 Soviet reveals Replacements: one DS Minor Country infantry step Soviet roll: 5-1=4 Ceded Land Russian Northern Baltic Ceded Land and German Memelland Ceded Land markers are sent to the TK Ceded Lands box. Roll on the Lanchow Agreement table: 5 Roll on the Colonialism table: 5 Minor Country Politics Map, Western Force Pools, Turn Tracks, and Current and Pending Options updated. Soviet, please PM me your Pending Option selections. Please post your actions for the turn. Taran_Wanderer fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Jan 23, 2015 05:23
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Demand Baltic can't actually be played because the selection requirements aren't met.
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Obfuscation posted:Demand Baltic can't actually be played because the selection requirements aren't met. Welp. I'm glad *somebody* is paying attention. As this is as much my fault as anyone's, I'll allow Soviet to change their card. Hopefully this won't happen again! Soviet also gets a DS Minor Country Replacement step, from the Minor Country Production Marker. Taran_Wanderer fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Whoops. Not sure how I missed that. I'm swamped at work at the moment, but I'll do all my turn stuff today sometime.
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