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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Can you play those games on the gamepad, or do you need a wiimote? I'd be interested in getting DKCR again if I can play it on the Pad.

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PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
No. If it didn't originally support a Classic Controller you won't be able to play it on the gamepad. SMG, Punch-Out, DKCR, Metroid Prime Trilogy all require a Wiimote and/or Nunchuk.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Fremry posted:

If you own a Wii U, don't have Super Mario 3D World and you don't pick it up this week, you're a chump

Well guess I'm a chump then. :v: But at least I can blame it on me being broke.

The real question is if I should pick up Yoshi's Island. On one hand, it's a great game. On the other hand, it's the GBA version. Tough choice.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

No. If it didn't originally support a Classic Controller you won't be able to play it on the gamepad. SMG, Punch-Out, DKCR, Metroid Prime Trilogy all require a Wiimote and/or Nunchuk.

gently caress!

Champeenship
Oct 9, 2012
In fact, if I remember right, Sin & Punishment is the only announced game that uses the classic controller (and even then, the remote and nunchuck is much better for it).

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

No. If it didn't originally support a Classic Controller you won't be able to play it on the gamepad. SMG, Punch-Out, DKCR, Metroid Prime Trilogy all require a Wiimote and/or Nunchuk.

Well, you can still use Off TV Play with the gamepad, you'll just need a Wiimote to actually control the game.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Champeenship posted:

In fact, if I remember right, Sin & Punishment is the only announced game that uses the classic controller (and even then, the remote and nunchuck is much better for it).

Wait, they announced Sin & Punishment for that? That's fantastic.

Fritzler
Sep 5, 2007


Champeenship posted:

In fact, if I remember right, Sin & Punishment is the only announced game that uses the classic controller (and even then, the remote and nunchuck is much better for it).

Pandora's Tower was announced in the EU I think. I'm really hoping for fire emblem: radiant dawn too which uses the classic controller.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

Champeenship posted:

In fact, if I remember right, Sin & Punishment is the only announced game that uses the classic controller (and even then, the remote and nunchuck is much better for it).

Pandora's Tower has a CC option, too.

Andrast posted:

Wait, they announced Sin & Punishment for that? That's fantastic.

Games coming "soon" in PAL-land include Kirby's Adventure Wii, Punch-Out, Sin & Punishment Wii and Pandora's Tower, and Japan is also getting Zangeki no Reginleiv.

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

No. If it didn't originally support a Classic Controller you won't be able to play it on the gamepad. SMG, Punch-Out, DKCR, Metroid Prime Trilogy all require a Wiimote and/or Nunchuk.

This is partially false, you *can* play them on the Gamepad, but you control them with the Wiimote and/or Nunchuk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImQaA0KetKE

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


It's bad semantics. He meant with the gamepad. We all know this. Wii games on the tablet screen has been a thing for a year now.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Meh, plenty of people don't know it, evidently. If Nintendo were more consistent about these things it wouldn't need clarification to begin with.

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good
What exactly are the new features of After Burner 2 3D, other than the obvious graphical effects?

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

Kirby's Adventure Wii is Kirby's Return To Dreamland in NA, right? Because that game is like $70 used here so I hope we get it eventually.

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

codenameFANGIO posted:

Kirby's Adventure Wii is Kirby's Return To Dreamland in NA, right? Because that game is like $70 used here so I hope we get it eventually.

Yep.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Original_Z posted:

What exactly are the new features of After Burner 2 3D, other than the obvious graphical effects?
Outside of the usual stuff like difficulty adjustment and cabinet simulation? Two new songs dug out of old developer backup discs and a "special mode" unlocked by beating the game that adds the Climax Gauge system from After Burner Climax and tweaked level designs.

elf help book
Aug 5, 2004

Though the battle might be endless, I will never give up

The Kins posted:

adds the Climax Gauge system from After Burner Climax

Woah!

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

The Kins posted:

Outside of the usual stuff like difficulty adjustment and cabinet simulation? Two new songs dug out of old developer backup discs and a "special mode" unlocked by beating the game that adds the Climax Gauge system from After Burner Climax and tweaked level designs.

The songs aren't exactly new... if you've played some of the older console ports or are familiar with the arrangements used in games like Sonic Kart you'll recognise them pretty quickly, but it's true that they were never available in the arcade game and that the versions presented here were recovered from authentic arcade-era data.

The new mode was designed by Hiroshi Iuchi, the guy behind Ikaruga and Gradius V, and you can't savestate/credit-feed your way through that mode, either, you gotta beat it legit like a real gamer. They added a rival plane that attacks you during the bonus stages and it's pretty good at murdering you.

One other small point worth mentioning: if you're having trouble focusing on enemies on the horizon when playing in 3D, there's an option in the game settings that lets you set the targeting cursor to always display at the front of the screen,

Also worth noting: if you have a New 3DS or a Circle Pad Pro you can use the second stick as a throttle.

EDIT: I feel like I pimp these developer interviews way too hard seeing as noone but me cares about them but if you want to get a feel for how much effort goes into these ports, read all this bullshit:

Space Harrier:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/11/25/sega-3d-classics-space-harrier-3d-interview-with-developer-m2/

Super Hang-On:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/11/27/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-3d-super-hang-on-interview-with-developer-m2/

Sonic the Hedgehog:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/03/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-3d-sonic-the-hedgehog-interview-with-developer-m2/

Altered Beast:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/05/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-3d-altered-beast-interview-with-developer-m2/

Ecco the Dolphin:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/10/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-3d-ecco-the-dolphin-interview-with-developer-m2/

Galaxy Force 2:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/12/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-galaxy-force-ii-interview-with-developer-m2/

Shinobi 3:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/17/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-3d-shinobi-iii-interview-with-developer-m2/

Streets of Rage:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/23/sega-3d-classics-%E2%80%93-3d-streets-of-rage-interview-with-developer-m2/

Afterburner 2:
http://blogs.sega.com/2015/01/12/sega-3d-classics-3d-afterbunner-ii-%E2%80%93-a-classic-reborn-part-1/
http://blogs.sega.com/2015/01/13/sega-3d-classics-3d-afterbunner-ii-%E2%80%93-a-classic-reborn-part-2/

PaletteSwappedNinja fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Jan 16, 2015

JustJeff88
Jan 15, 2008

I AM
CONSISTENTLY
ANNOYING
...
JUST TERRIBLE


THIS BADGE OF SHAME IS WORTH 0.45 DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCES

:dogout:
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Ultigonio posted:

I mean, yeah, Runner 2 is better than the original in every way, but it still astounds me how they have all these great options for instrumentation, base their game around music and melodic stingers, and still make such a boring, same-y soundtrack. There are some really neat mechanics at play, but levels don't really differ a whole lot, and new gimmicks are introduced so slowly that they start to get tiring before you ever get to the next one. I suppose I'm just not a fan of endless-runner-type games, though.

All that said, already owning Runner 2 means that I can get Guacamelee STCE for very cheap. So I probably will.

You are right here, I must confess. I'm not the type of gamer who really gets into sound, but for a game that's supposedly about rhythm and beats the music is very lacklustre and same-y, though I didn't notice level similarities as much as you perhaps. I've been playing a lot of old Mega Man games lately, and it's impressive how much they can get out of 8-bit chiptunes, but a modern game built around music kind of falls flat. Odd, that.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

EDIT: I feel like I pimp these developer interviews way too hard seeing as noone but me cares about them but if you want to get a feel for how much effort goes into these ports, read all this bullshit:

No. Keep on pimping. Those interviews with M2 are seriously pro clicks. It might even be worth crossposting in the retro thread.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

I'd like to point out that although Pandora's Tower technically has CC support, it's terrible. The game is designed ground up for the wiimote, as you can tell because there's no camera controls, only like three action buttons, and a goddamn Mario Galaxy style pointer that you're forced to control with the second stick. I guess if you really hate yanking the wiimote to rip your chain you could use it but sheesh, it's bad and pointless.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

The songs aren't exactly new... if you've played some of the older console ports or are familiar with the arrangements used in games like Sonic Kart you'll recognise them pretty quickly, but it's true that they were never available in the arcade game and that the versions presented here were recovered from authentic arcade-era data.

The new mode was designed by Hiroshi Iuchi, the guy behind Ikaruga and Gradius V, and you can't savestate/credit-feed your way through that mode, either, you gotta beat it legit like a real gamer. They added a rival plane that attacks you during the bonus stages and it's pretty good at murdering you.

One other small point worth mentioning: if you're having trouble focusing on enemies on the horizon when playing in 3D, there's an option in the game settings that lets you set the targeting cursor to always display at the front of the screen,

Also worth noting: if you have a New 3DS or a Circle Pad Pro you can use the second stick as a throttle.

EDIT: I feel like I pimp these developer interviews way too hard seeing as noone but me cares about them but if you want to get a feel for how much effort goes into these ports, read all this bullshit:

Space Harrier:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/11/25/sega-3d-classics-space-harrier-3d-interview-with-developer-m2/

Super Hang-On:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/11/27/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-3d-super-hang-on-interview-with-developer-m2/

Sonic the Hedgehog:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/03/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-3d-sonic-the-hedgehog-interview-with-developer-m2/

Altered Beast:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/05/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-3d-altered-beast-interview-with-developer-m2/

Ecco the Dolphin:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/10/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-3d-ecco-the-dolphin-interview-with-developer-m2/

Galaxy Force 2:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/12/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-galaxy-force-ii-interview-with-developer-m2/

Shinobi 3:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/17/sega-3d-classics-%e2%80%93-3d-shinobi-iii-interview-with-developer-m2/

Streets of Rage:
http://blogs.sega.com/2013/12/23/sega-3d-classics-%E2%80%93-3d-streets-of-rage-interview-with-developer-m2/

Afterburner 2:
http://blogs.sega.com/2015/01/12/sega-3d-classics-3d-afterbunner-ii-%E2%80%93-a-classic-reborn-part-1/
http://blogs.sega.com/2015/01/13/sega-3d-classics-3d-afterbunner-ii-%E2%80%93-a-classic-reborn-part-2/

I love what they are doing I just keep waiting for them to do it for something i want. Streets of Rage 2-3, Phantasy Star, and Golden Axes.

TheBystander
Apr 28, 2011

Junkie Disease posted:

I love what they are doing I just keep waiting for them to do it for something i want. Streets of Rage 2-3, Phantasy Star, and Golden Axes.

I'd buy 3D versions of every 2D Phantasy Star, even 3. That series is great, and I've been hoping for North America to get an updated version of those games for decades.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Anybody here need a MONHUN code or am I just gonna hold these last two?

A good poster
Jan 10, 2010

Beef Waifu posted:

Anybody here need a MONHUN code or am I just gonna hold these last two?

Could you toss one to -received, thank you-?

A good poster fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jan 17, 2015

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Beef Waifu posted:

Anybody here need a MONHUN code or am I just gonna hold these last two?

I'd love another for my cousin that put 300 hours into 3U. Seanmcbay @ gmail.com

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Beef Waifu posted:

Anybody here need a MONHUN code or am I just gonna hold these last two?

Would like for my friend who I want to get into the series please, for anyone else sitting on one (obvs you're out of codes). PM me! Thanks Chaos Argate and Beef Waifu for the responses!

C-Euro fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jan 18, 2015

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Sent

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

If anyone else has one, I would really like to check it out. (I'm in the US). I've beaten MH3 on the Wii (single player), and played the PSP ones with friends before that. I have PMs if that works. :)

Thanks Wamdoodle. :)

Chinook fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Jan 18, 2015

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Lurian posted:

Hey, goons!

A buddy of mine and I really want to play this Monster Hunter 4 demo. He was able to snag a code but I'm still looking. Would anyone mind PM'ing me an extra code you may have or shoot me an email to kelwynshadedotcom@gmail.com

I can hook you up with a free steam game or something.

Check your PM's!

Chinook posted:

If anyone else has one, I would really like to check it out. (I'm in the US). I've beaten MH3 on the Wii (single player), and played the PSP ones with friends before that. I have PMs if that works. :)

You too!

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Here's two more codes for NA Monster Hunter 4:


A0717QVD2J3DNFKP
A0710SCL0DQN3W8J

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!

Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

Here's two more codes for NA Monster Hunter 4:

A0717QVD2J3DNFKP

Snagged this one. Thank you!

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


Someone snagged the other code, too.
(It wasn't me)

Niemat
Mar 21, 2011

I gave that pitch vibrato. Pitches love vibrato.

Edit: got one! Thanks! :)

Niemat fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jan 21, 2015

Slur
Mar 6, 2013

It's the Final Countdown.
The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > NINTENDO eSHOP: The Monster Hunter 4 Demo Code Thread


In other news, Super Mario Galaxy 2 isn't the worst game I've ever played, but yet I can't understand the hype that was initially behind it, let alone why it holds a ridiculously high metascore. Can someone explain this to me?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
It's a great platformer?

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!

Slur posted:

In other news, Super Mario Galaxy 2 isn't the worst game I've ever played, but yet I can't understand the hype that was initially behind it, let alone why it holds a ridiculously high metascore. Can someone explain this to me?

Maybe it just isn't for you. I'm a human being that never got into Skyrim and doesn't like Dark Souls, but I understand that I'm the minority.

As for Galaxy 2, they turned Yoshi into a third person tongue shooter. It's awesome.

irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda

The Galaxy games are great, although I haven't really played them since they were first released. I'm looking forward to grabbing 2 and replaying it (although I should really do that while it's on sale).

FruitPunchSamurai
Oct 20, 2010

Mario Galaxy 2 just felt like it was slapped together to me. None of the levels felt very cohesively designed to me like they just had a bunch of assets lying around and threw them together to make some random levels. There were also a lot of gimmicky powerups in the levels I played, and I didn't think they were very fun. As someone who really liked Galaxy 1, I just could not bring myself to like the second one no matter how hard I tried. Apparently it was made from a whole bunch of cut content from the original game, and I can definitely see it. I'm not sure why it gets such high praise from so many people. I agree that it's still good but it's not really that great.

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JustJeff88
Jan 15, 2008

I AM
CONSISTENTLY
ANNOYING
...
JUST TERRIBLE


THIS BADGE OF SHAME IS WORTH 0.45 DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCES

:dogout:
of SA-Mart forever
I haven't played 2 yet despite having the Wii disc version, but I somewhat enjoyed 1... enough to get all of the stars with Mario, at least. I started playing a bit with Luigi (a.k.a. the Best Mario Brother) and he basically plays like his shoes are covered with ball bearings made of ice. He's had lower traction and better jumping in other games, but in Galaxy 1 it's ludicrous.

My biggest problem with the Galaxy games is the controls, which is my annoyance with a lot of Wii games in general. Also, I've found that I prefer the other kind of Mario platformer. The first kind are games like Mario 64, Sunshine, and both Galaxy Games where you play missions to get the star/shine. The second kind are essentially every game since Super Mario Bros up to 3d World where it's a matter of "get to the flagpole" with "find some special coins" as a secondary objective. I've found that I prefer the latter, even if I have found every star and bunny in the Mario 64 remake for DS. There's nothing wrong with 64/Sunshine/Galaxy etc, I just personally don't like them as much.

I thought about it, and I think that part of the problem is that the 64-type games are more linear. I know that sounds odd since they are all in 3D, but those games usually break down to entering what is essentially a mission, and following a specific path with specific power-ups to finish that mission. If there is a specific power-up that you need, it will be there on the way; if it's not needed, there won't be. The "flagpole games", however, are a little more flexible. Yes, it's still linear and indeed most of the games in that style are 2D horizontal scrollers (exceptions being Mario 3D Land & World), but it's more open to me. There will be power-ups, but you don't need them to make the objective, they just make it easier. One of my favourite Mario moments to date was finally making it to the final Bowser battle on Super Mario 3 with a Hammer Bros. suit, and then knocking Big B out with 2 or 3 hammers to the bonce. I think that it comes down to the difference between "Here's an objective, and use these steps and tools to get there" versus "Here's your goal, how you get about it is your affair."

In the end, it's all about personal preference - fun is a purely relative concept, after all - but I know which camp I'm in.

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