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pentyne posted:Great, exactly the biggest problem with zombie stories, how in the hell it just comes out of nowhere in a world with smartphones and internet. Only now it'll be "gosh, all these conspiracy nuts talking about zombies are sooo crazy, whoops every single world city is now overrun!" I always thought the biggest thing they always gloss over is the point of transition from zombies being A Thing to the entire world being overrun by them and society collapsing. Even the guy who wrote World War Z admitted he couldn't think of a believable way to have slow zombies take over the world which is why there's nothing between the US Army losing the battle of Yonkers and the post-apocalypse when they've already taken over.
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DivisionPost posted:It sounds like they want to do the whole thing as a family drama set just before the collapse of society. I don't see what that even entails different from any other family drama except for some foreboding music over wide shots of a city or slow-mo shots of kids on a playground or something. I think AMC as a prestige network may have been a short-lived thing.
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Jan 21, 2015 21:44
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Sleeveless posted:I always thought the biggest thing they always gloss over is the point of transition from zombies being A Thing to the entire world being overrun by them and society collapsing. Even the guy who wrote World War Z admitted he couldn't think of a believable way to have slow zombies take over the world which is why there's nothing between the US Army losing the battle of Yonkers and the post-apocalypse when they've already taken over. Yeah, you always see the destroyed tanks and stuff but never how it happened.
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Jan 21, 2015 21:58
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Rabbit Hill posted:On that note, don't read the AVClub's reviews of Galavant. That's a ridiculous amount of sperging over a stupid pun. Douche from the Onion AV Club posted:As enjoyable as the show can be, Galavant’s weaknesses have been fairly consistent over its first four episodes: off-color puns, What a pedantic little twat.
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Jan 21, 2015 22:01
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IRQ posted:I think AMC as a prestige network may have been a short-lived thing. Well, this comes from the mouth of a bitter Frank Darabont, and was filtered through the mental giants over at AICN, so there's a few opportunities to call bullshit on this. But apparently Charlie Collier, who last I checked has been running development at AMC ever since The Walking Dead, is a short-sighted prick. He can talk the talk about how much story matters, but when the chips are down, he shows little respect for the creative end of the process. Again, that's Darabont talking; of course he'd be pissed at Collier after he shitcanned him from his own show. But considering how much trouble AMC has had launching a series that been on point from the start, or attracting some real heavy-hitters to the network that launched Mad Men and Breaking Bad (compare to FX and Guillermo del Toro, opinions of The Strain aside), I think there's at least some fire behind the smoke.
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Jan 21, 2015 22:26
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah, you always see the destroyed tanks and stuff but never how it happened. Because there's no way to show it "happening" without a mind-numbingly level of stupidity at literally every aspect. Like the scene in Dawn of the Dead 2003 where its all happy suburbia then suddenly anarchy and chaos somehow out of nowhere, planes crashing in the background and everywhere the entire world is in the same state of panic in a matter of hours. Same problem with that Brad Pitt movie.
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Jan 21, 2015 22:33
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Is Emily Van Camp pregnant, because her face has gotten really bloated lately.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:09
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah, you always see the destroyed tanks and stuff but never how it happened. Zombie spearmen.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:09
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Rabbit Hill posted:On that note, don't read the AVClub's reviews of Galavant. Seriously. I've never seen a reviewer get so hung up over a single throwaway joke:
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Jan 21, 2015 23:10
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There's a time and a place where a show can be steeped in subtext and all that. Galavant is not one of them.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:14
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pentyne posted:Because there's no way to show it "happening" without a mind-numbingly level of stupidity at literally every aspect. Like the scene in Dawn of the Dead 2003 where its all happy suburbia then suddenly anarchy and chaos somehow out of nowhere, planes crashing in the background and everywhere the entire world is in the same state of panic in a matter of hours. Same problem with that Brad Pitt movie. The Walking Dead game by Telltale was really funny about this, the game opens with you driving from a courthouse to a prison and things go from fine to the post-apocalypse in the course of 5 minutes.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:23
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pentyne posted:Because there's no way to show it "happening" without a mind-numbingly level of stupidity at literally every aspect. Like the scene in Dawn of the Dead 2003 where its all happy suburbia then suddenly anarchy and chaos somehow out of nowhere, planes crashing in the background and everywhere the entire world is in the same state of panic in a matter of hours. Same problem with that Brad Pitt movie. That one at least had the weird zombie pileups that can take down helicopters. Taking out a helicopter is just a matter of weight. Or if they're Canadian helicopters, wait.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:32
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Well Netflix continues to stack paperquote:Netflix added 4.33 million members worldwide in the fourth quarter, ending the year with 57.4 million, more than what Wall Street analysts expected. Again the shocker continues to be that there were almost four and a half million people in the world that didn't have netflix already. Also not TV related but they are streaming The Interview starting tomorrow.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:32
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Rabbit Hill posted:Did anyone watch Wolf Hall last night? I caught it today and liked it. I wasn't super sold on some of the casting initially (namely Cromwell and Damian Lewis as Henry) but I think that was mostly because of the inevitable picture I built in my head of them from reading the books and they were both good in the show. Lewis especially has a really good "Annoyingly fake enthusiasm" face that he pulls off that works great for playing a king surrounded by subjects that are constantly talking behind his back. Mark Gatiss as Gardiner is a perfect choice (how many versions of a snarky British politician has he played now?) and the scenes between him and Cromwell were predictably great. Jonathan Pryce as Wolsey was equally great casting, but it's a shame that the show starts with him already exiled/sick. I would've liked seeing more of an origin story with Cromwell learning from Wolsey, but that's way outside the scope of the show. I'm assuming the next episodes will focus a lot more on the scheming now that the introductions are mostly out of the way. Speaking of which, I was surprised to find out that they're going to include things from Bring Up the Bodies as well. I guess it kind of makes sense to see Anne's whole arc, but it still seems like a lot to squeeze into 6 episodes. The first episode already felt a bit rushed in places because it had to do the thing TV pilots usually do where people just walk into a room, introduce themselves, and then leave and aren't seen again all episode. Covering two books worth of stuff in just the next 5 episodes seems like it's going to leave a whole lot out.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:38
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zoux posted:Well Netflix continues to stack paper We do leech off others' accounts though.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:44
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zoux posted:Well Netflix continues to stack paper
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Jan 21, 2015 23:48
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Was 12 Monkeys supposed to just be a limited series because it just broke records for Syfy? Also Flash was series low 
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zoux posted:Also Flash was series low Oof. It even lost to Parks.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:59
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More like Flash in the pan, m I rite
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Eh it'll be fine. I wouldn't be surprised if most of that drop was just due to the show coming back from a break. Glad 12 Monkeys did well though, that show is surprisingly good so far.
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VDay posted:Eh it'll be fine. I wouldn't be surprised if most of that drop was just due to the show coming back from a break. Glad 12 Monkeys did well though, that show is surprisingly good so far. Also up against the SOTU. It wasn't cratering it was like a tenth below it's last ep.
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zoux posted:Also up against the SOTU.
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zoux posted:Was 12 Monkeys supposed to just be a limited series because it just broke records for Syfy? Yes in the Siffy sense that BSG was a one-off miniseries. If Sc-fi follows their practiced MO, it'll be about 136 Monkeys, 3 Gorillas, 8 web-capuchins and in the end be that monkey from outbreak, not George Cloony, the other one. And that sucks, I just came here to post that I just noticed somehow that it had reunited Linc and Michael from Prisonbreak. They are one step closer to space prison now. 
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DivisionPost posted:It sounds like they want to do the whole thing as a family drama set just before the collapse of society. Maybe we'll trace the source of the pandemic to a government-funded science project -- it's always a government project -- that's officially called the Mid-level Intrinsic Chlorination Information Network, or Project MIDICHLORIAN A family drama set just before the collapse of society was essentially the set-up for Caprica and I enjoyed the hell out of it. Then again I find the setting and themes of The Walking Dead infinitely less interesting than BSG so don't take this as my endorsement of their idea.
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Sophia posted:A family drama set just before the collapse of society was essentially the set-up for Caprica and I enjoyed the hell out of it. Then again I find the setting and themes of The Walking Dead infinitely less interesting than BSG so don't take this as my endorsement of their idea. Yeah but there's really no buildup to a zombie apocalypse other than "shady government bioweapon experiment gone wrong" that then goes 0-60 in no time flat because zombies, which we've seen a zillion times before in the 5 minutes before the prison/coma/etc time skip in zombie stuff. Caprica had some cool ideas to explore, it just took way too long to get to it in favor of VR GTA/porn chat rooms.
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I love Galavant and my musical hating husband is also enjoying it. I now return you to your regularly scheduled bickering.
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Couldn't you feasibly do something ala the style of Manhattan but with bioengineers and just have the first season end on a zombie viral outbreak? There, solved it. (not really)
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Rabbit Hill posted:On that note, don't read the AVClub's reviews of Galavant. Ugh, a black jewish guy? How stereotypical! Sober posted:Couldn't you feasibly do something ala the style of Manhattan but with bioengineers and just have the first season end on a zombie viral outbreak? There, solved it. I'm a bioengineer, I'd like to see a syfy show about using modified algae to clean up toxic spills actually.
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IRQ posted:Yes in the Siffy sense that BSG was a one-off miniseries. If Sc-fi follows their practiced MO, it'll be about 136 Monkeys, 3 Gorillas, 8 web-capuchins and in the end be that monkey from outbreak, not George Cloony, the other one. The Flash did it first. They got broken out of the van going to the prison.
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We should take this opportunity to tell chat thread peeps that Flash is extremely good and they should watch it. Honestly CW is just murdering it now. They make good genre shows that they renew despite low ratings and yet many internet people, who should be worshipping at the feet of Mark Pedowitz, go "huurrrrrr pretty teens this sucks",
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zoux posted:We should take this opportunity to tell chat thread peeps that Flash is extremely good and they should watch it. It's nothing special. The characters are annoying, the writing is terrible and the action and effects aren't enough to bother watching. It was alright at first but I got over it pretty fast. Now the 100 is the truly excellent show on the CW that people should be told to watch.
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I agree the 100 is good but you are so wrong about Flash.
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Flash is good and is way better than Arrow if you tried watching that and didn't like it. I still watch Arrow though because stockholm syndrome I guess. However both shows are ridiculously frustrating with the whole "This single character can NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH about my secret identity!!!" thing. Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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I still think Arrow is excellent but that's a pretty drat good lineup of CW shows of Arrow/Flash/100.
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Wolf Hall was decent, maybe a bit too austere but we'll see after the next episode or two.
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The 100 is actually pretty bad. I watched the first 5-6 episodes and they were bad, and I left the TV on after Arrow tonight and watched it and it was still bad.
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Ah thanks. I guess I should quit watching.
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raditts posted:The 100 is actually pretty bad. I watched the first 5-6 episodes and they were bad, and I left the TV on after Arrow tonight and watched it and it was still bad. You have to understand that the people who talk about how great CW shows are are the same people who think everyone in Cinema Discusso is a pretentious idiot and that Winter Soldier was one of the best movies of last year. (nah you're all aite)
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raditts posted:The 100 is actually pretty bad. I watched the first 5-6 episodes and they were bad, and I left the TV on after Arrow tonight and watched it and it was still bad. So you saw a quarter of the first season and half an episode of totally out of context season 2 and this is what you say? I mean that's really almost Irish Joe level dumb. I know you know better than that dude.
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Well, why don't you give me a number for how many episodes of lovely television I need to watch to make an acceptable judgment. Also, if IMDB is anything to go by it looks like the first season was 13 episodes, and going by the descriptions I apparently watched up to episode 9, so I watched at least half of it. Bown posted:You have to understand that the people who talk about how great CW shows are are the same people who think everyone in Cinema Discusso is a pretentious idiot and that Winter Soldier was one of the best movies of last year. To be fair, Winter Soldier was a good movie and there's no shortage of assholes in CD. raditts fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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