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The great insight Total Divas provides us into 'John Cena' is to see the trappings that his wealth has brought him: Mansion, wine rack, luxury bus, a wardrobe custom fit from The Bachelor. No wonder dude doesn't want to upend his status quo just so armchair bookers on YouTube can feel satisfied w/ a heel turn.
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"What I don't get is that if you're somebody that knows what you're doing and you're confident in your work, why would you lower yourself to do something that is just trying to get attention?" - Natalya, talking about Paige... to Cameron and Eva. 
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Jan 19, 2015 18:36
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It's like Natalya is just allergic to money
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Jan 19, 2015 20:00
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Eltoasto posted:Not Summer, she isn't even on the cast this year and still has a job. She actually went through NXT training and can put on a match. They'll never push her to the divas title or anything, but she is a perfectly acceptable heel that can lose to someone. Do we even know what Jonathon does for a living? Besides being a model for Deep V shirts. I hear this about pretty much every Diva that comes up through NXT. With the exception of Paige, I just don't see it in most of them...
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Astro7x posted:I hear this about pretty much every Diva that comes up through NXT. With the exception of Paige, I just don't see it in most of them... That's on Dunn and the booking at the WWE level. In NXT they are given time and allowed to wrestle. Sasha Banks owns, but she will probably come up and do some hair pulling crazy bitch 3 minute matches.
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Astro7x posted:I hear this about pretty much every Diva that comes up through NXT. With the exception of Paige, I just don't see it in most of them... You're not allowed to see it in them. 
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Jan 19, 2015 21:11
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Even Eva Marie has done (very, very slightly) better in NXT than on Raw or Smackdown. No woman or midcard man deserves to be judged solely on what they get to do on Raw/Smackdown.
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Jan 19, 2015 22:26
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pressedbunny posted:Even Eva Marie has done (very, very slightly) better in NXT than on Raw or Smackdown. No woman or midcard man deserves to be judged solely on what they get to do on Raw/Smackdown. She's only had one televised match in NXT, which was against Bailey, and it went like 3 minutes. That's about on par with what she's done on Raw and Smackdown. The only thing NXT did right was give her heel heat with an entrance where she looked completely vapid just sitting there looking hot.
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Astro7x posted:The only thing NXT did right was give her heel heat with an entrance where she looked completely vapid just sitting there looking hot. They re-tapted Eva's entrance 3-4 times which annoyed the crowd. The funny aspect is that NXT ended up using first and worst "take" of it anyway for the TV show.
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Jan 20, 2015 00:39
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She didn't actually gently caress up in that match, though, which is a step up from any Raw match she's had. I mean yes we're talking the most backhanded of compliments here, but going <3 minutes without being totally poo poo is an improvement.
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Jan 20, 2015 00:43
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My favorite reflection on this show is that when it began Eva was all "I am going to lie about my experience; hope this works!" and we were all just confused as all gently caress. Then slowly but surely it is revealed that she simply has been lying (badly) with varying degrees of success her entire life, it starts to make sense that she wouldn't realize that this is a bad strategy.
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Jan 20, 2015 00:45
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So I got caught up on Total Divas. I hope they lay off Eva and Jonathan bickering all the time, it's getting old. But Paige is an awesome addition to the show and I hope she never stops trolling Nattie. Also Cena refusing to allow Nikki to win even one competition between the two is so very fitting.
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Jan 21, 2015 18:05
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Cena overcame the odds in that game of beer pong. It was structured exactly like one of his matches, including the comeback.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Cena overcame the odds in that game of beer pong. It was structured exactly like one of his matches, including the comeback. John Cena the character is like the Portrait of Dorian Gray for John Cena the man. If he ever stops, for even a second, he will shrivel up and blow away.
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The more I think about it, the more it boggles my mind. It's a reality show scripted for women, yet on one episode you have: • Cena completely destroying Nikki in some friendly competitions, rubbing her face in it, then Nikki apologizes • Eva realizing that her man is the one who knows whats best for her, then Eva apologizes You'd think they would want to have a strong female in there but ???
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Naomi/Trinity comes across as a pretty stable, positive role model. ed: Oh yeah they ditched her, nevermind. I guess Paige and Alicia? Not that they've done much yet.
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If a fraction of the John Cena who came to be a smart-rear end and win and arcade games and beer pong showed up at 12 months of WWE PPVs, I'd stop practicing voodoo and hoping for him to tear both of his quads.
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My thoughts on the latest episode: Hey look at that, Cena's really entertaining when allowed to be. And then he went back to RoboCena by the end. Nattie is still the dumbest human. Eva Marie/Jonathan stuff is turn the channel bad.
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Jan 22, 2015 20:50
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Well, to be perfectly fair, Eva agreed that Jonathan was right and apologized him after he tried to get her to not risk killing herself by ignoring a serious medical condition because she might be left out of TV tapings she's never on and rarely has to wrestle for, anyway. Honestly, it doesn't speak well of WWE's labor practices that even a heavily edited show like Total Divas is mostly about them hiding serious medical issues for fear of losing their jobs.
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Jan 22, 2015 21:00
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Daniel Bryan posted:Eva Marie/Jonathan stuff is turn the channel bad. I at least feel like that kind of stuff is real in some sense. Eva was wrestling a ton more, got two wins over the current champ AJ on TV, and then has to deal with this poo poo of being out since September for her leaking implant. Was wondering why we have not seen her in so long. How the hell does this kind of stuff not find its way to the dirt sheets when it happens? Baby Babbeh posted:Honestly, it doesn't speak well of WWE's labor practices that even a heavily edited show like Total Divas is mostly about them hiding serious medical issues for fear of losing their jobs. Wait... people think this show is not scripted? Astro7x fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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Jan 22, 2015 21:01
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TBF almost everyone on a reality TV show on E! are terrible people. They're all edited to be terrible in some way.
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Baby Babbeh posted:
I think that's projecting a little. In just about any job there's a justifiable fear that leaving for weeks or months for medical issues will cause you to be lost in the shuffle when you return. Hell, this is something that people (myself included) worry about all the time when they take maternity/paternity leave. Not saying that WWE doesn't have legitimate issues with the way they handle injuries and stuff, but I don't think this particular concern is indicative of that.
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Jan 22, 2015 21:06
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Even if Total Divas is 100% scripted, the fact that "hiding potentially career ending injuries for fear of reprisals" is a behavior that's become so normalized behind the scenes that the powers that be don't think twice about it being roughly 2/3rds of Total Divas storylines is telling in and of itself. Edit: It's not that this sort of thing isn't a reasonable concern in many occupations, it's just striking how prevalent it is on the show. Kind of paints a picture of the backstage politics at WWE being a bit more cutthroat then maybe they want to portray, is all I'm saying. Baby Babbeh fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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She wasn't scared of reprisals or losing her job, she was scared of losing her push. Which she lost, because you can't just put a story on the shelf for 3 months.
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Eltoasto posted:She wasn't scared of reprisals or losing her job, she was scared of losing her push. Which she lost, because you can't just put a story on the shelf for 3 months. Regardless, it's a bit funny how whenever anyone gets hurt on the show (Nikki, Daniel, Eva) they're immediately terrified and try to rush back early, getting pressure from people backstage.
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Baby Babbeh posted:Kind of paints a picture of the backstage politics at WWE being a bit more cutthroat then maybe they want to portray, is all I'm saying. On the contrary, I think most of the old guard in the WWE and in wrestling in general very much like that the 'walk it off' mentality is both still in place and is presented as a normal part of the business. It makes the people who put their bodies on the line seem tougher and more of a unique breed and not so much like a regular dude/lady off the street. If this weren't the case you wouldn't have storylines on the main show about people ripping themselves off stretchers to continue wrestling or playing up that they won the title with a broken freakin neck. Those are just stories, but WWE has never shied away from publicly presenting that 'finish the match at any cost' attitude on shows like Tough Enough. And this hasn't a hope of changing any time soon with Mr "I tore my quad but still took a Pedigree on a table and finished the match' Helmsley running things.
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I just kept laughing every time Eva talked about working hard to be at the top and losing her 'push'. As for it reflecting on WWE, it's a reality show. Everything is sculpted to be as much of an end-times, career- and relationship-ending big deal as possible. Have you never watched a reality show before? Spilling someone's drink is played out like a death threat. Fearing your job is at risk if you get a bit of a cough is absolutely standard for all such shows.
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I, for my sins, have somehow* ended up watching Laguna Beach, The Hills, The City, Keeping Up With The Kardashians, Made In Chelsea and LA Ink. (Granted the last one isn't quite the same, but they still overreact to everything.) Eventually you do become jaded/immune enough to the formula to spot these patterns. Never think anything on a reality show actually reflects reality in any way. It's much wiser to simply assume it's as scripted and edited as an episode of Smackdown. *okay, I love this trash poo poo really
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It's actually probably more scripted then an episode of Smackdown because they don't reshoot a match if the angle doesn't come across well enough.
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Baby Babbeh posted:It's actually probably more scripted then an episode of Smackdown because they don't reshoot a match if the angle doesn't come across well enough. they absolutely do this on smackdown
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Really? It's never happened at any of the tapings I've been to but I guess it wouldn't surprise me.
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Oh yeah they totally reshoot stuff on taped WWE shows. Apparently they had Eva do her entrance like 3 times on NXT. Doesn't happen every single time, but it's definitely there.
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I liked Cena's '500lb steel steps' sell of the foam weightlifting plate.
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Someone summed up the best part of the episode in a nice gif
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I now can't believe they've not given Cena that music for real.
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Hearing Brie referred to Brie Danielson was kind of weird
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Bobwhire
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DB, Titus, Paige and Alicia should have their own show. They can just walk around telling people what the gently caress. And I know it's scripted to buggery, but Rosa is now more obnoxious than Eva or Cameron have ever been. Hell, I'll even go so far as to say Eva's downfall-of-the-week seemed genuinely sympathetic on this episode. Rosa is just loving intolerable even by faux-reality standards.
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There's a guy on Youtube who edits Total Divas down to Total Paige and it's pretty awesome. Paige owns.
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