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Deadpool posted:So is it more serious talk or is it just more of "Make the news funny" like Stewart, Colbert, and Oliver? Because I've been pretty well burnt out on the latter for a good while. I guess it being on Comedy Central and being hosted by a comedian answers the question for me. But maybe not. Oliver did this to an extent, but he usually bookends the segments with a funny sketch or concept. Which is easier, given that most of the things they talked about them don't affect them every day the way racism affects Wilmore and black people.
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Vanderdeath posted:I hate that I'm responding to Ravane but Larry Wilmore grew up middle-class in the Midwest. Not every black person grew up poor and in the inner city. I know it's Ravane but "urban" as a codeword for black people gets under my skin. Next you're going to tell me I can't say that arabs had a turban upbringing.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 14:13 |
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Ravane if your posts were actually funny and entertaining it would be fine but they're more like the dad jokes of trolling. They're just kind of embarrassing. Don't post in this thread for a month or so and instead work on some decent material.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 14:29 |
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People were right about season 2 of Person of Interest. Once they knew they had a hit they started having fun with the show. There's a lot more comedy in the first half of this season then the entire first season.
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Since I've ran out of stuff to watch, I think I'm finally going to give this Person of Interest show a shot.
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Lugaloco posted:Since I've ran out of stuff to watch, I think I'm finally going to give this Person of Interest show a shot. Netflix has every season of Columbo and Murder She Wrote
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:Netflix has every season of Columbo and Murder She Wrote Okay so I hate myself a little bit for knowing this but it does NOT have every episode of Murder She Wrote. Only most of them. It makes me so angry. Almost as angry as the fact that there is no good way for me to watch the entirety of Passions.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 18:07 |
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Lugaloco posted:Since I've ran out of stuff to watch, I think I'm finally going to give this Person of Interest show a shot. I just started after passing on it for years, finally took the plunge in the TVIV Top 10 shows thread when someone mentioned that my list would mean that I'd probably love POI. It's loving amazing, easily one of my new favorite shows.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 18:25 |
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I hope you're American, because if not it's really hard to watch. First 2 seasons are on Netflix UK at least, and I think everyone outside the US uses a Netflix DNS redirector at this point.
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Aphrodite posted:I hope you're American, because if not it's really hard to watch. The series is hitting Netflix in the fall, FWIW, though the original Deadline report suggested that it would only be the first three seasons -- which would be frankly insane, but considering how long the series took to get any sort of digital distribution, I almost believe it.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 19:07 |
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When does PoI get really good? Is it like Fringe where the first season kind of sucks. I thought Fringe was so loving boring but I just kind of half watched the first season but it got really fun after that.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 19:15 |
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A lot of people don't care for the first few episodes but you should know by episode 7 whether the show is for you or not. It's not that the first season is bad or anything, it's that the first two seasons are much more procedural, and it isn't until S3 or so that the show starts going really wild with its premise. Also Sarah Shahi, who plays one of the show's best characters, doesn't come on board until well into S2.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 19:19 |
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Good around halfway through S1, really good around halfway through S2. Also while S1 may be the black sheep season I really wouldn't recommend skipping any of it since even the procedural episodes are heavily serialized. S1 is actually pretty amazing on a rewatch because you notice all the background poo poo they have been setting up since the start that they eventually payoff on a massive scale around the mid season of 2.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 19:19 |
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So I've watched the pilot and... yeesh. Also yeah, not American. I'll try and stick with it.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 19:22 |
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Give it to ep 4, that's when the show starts doing interesting things.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 19:40 |
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Lugaloco posted:So I've watched the pilot and... yeesh. The pilot is really dumb and over-explainy, but it eventually becomes one of the smartest shows on TV.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 19:41 |
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To be fair though that's like, every pilot.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 19:48 |
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Zaggitz posted:To be fair though that's like, every pilot. True, but this one was especially not great even for a pilot.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 19:57 |
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I guess Parenthood is ending next week. The show's totally earnest commitment to showing characters do not much interesting was strange at first, but over the course of six years the consistencies that it maintained end up being sort of interesting. Going into this last season, the thing I found most interesting was the way that every issue that cropped up basically felt the same depending on which characters handled it. Whenever a problem occurred, each of the characters seems to slightly and unconsciously cast themselves into their particular role. Kristina usually turns her troubles into combatting some form of injustice, Adam tries to find a way to sacrifice himself for the good of others, Sarah decides it's all over her head and too difficult and finds a way to not make a decision, Julia/Joel try to make small concessions while actually changing not much at all after every problem, and Zeek feigns leadership while being basically incompetent. In some sense, every episode is the same episode over and over - I'd be surprised if anyone could name a favorite episode of the show. But this is actually very true-to-life - usually people find themselves in the same sorts of conflicts, repeatedly, but in different contexts. Someone who finds themselves doing all of the lovely grunt work at their old job will probably find a way to end up doing that at their new job, as well. It's like as individuals, we're running the same run loop over and over, and our problems all end up taking the same tone even in different contexts. It seemed so grossly unfair that there was always this nasty feeling of mortification whenever Adam had to resolve something and Crosby's problems - even an accidental kid - end up turning out just fine for him with no pain or stress attached. (This changed a bit this season, with reality finally catching up to Crosby with the Luncheonette's failure.)
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 20:10 |
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Not sure how much Banshee is appointment viewing around these parts but last night's episode was one of the most insane episodes of TV I've ever seen. Just an avalanche of major plot points bookended with some of the most brutal action sequences I've ever seen. It would not air on the CW.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 20:10 |
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SKIP THE FIRST SEASON OF POI Seriously, there's nothing there worth watching. Jump right into season 2, get a feel for the characters and then go back and check out "critical" season 1 episodes if you want.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 20:10 |
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Nah don't listen to Irish Joe. I mean, never do, but especially on this. edit: Also Lugaloco PoI eventually ends up featuring a whole bunch of Wire alums as recurring characters. Zaggitz fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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I think CBS are actively going after Wire actors since I see a lot of them on The Good Wife too. Or they all happen to be in the New York area.
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Lugaloco posted:True, but this one was especially not great even for a pilot. A few things to consider about POI's pilot: -It was likely shot early enough from actual production that it feels off a bit. Small details and things, the sets, are all vastly different in the pilot, in which case it feels more like a test reel in some instances, w/r/t consistency. -Compared to an early draft of the script to the broadcast and extended pilot, it was relatively unchanged, but the original script was much longer and a lot was cut out and later rewritten as material for later episodes -Mechanically, the pilot does exactly what a pilot for a show should do, and does it competently - it sets up the premise, introduces the characters, tells us a story, introduces the show's format, leaves us with a feeling that the show can continue on -Emotionally, you have to pick and choose here. You introduce the show's premise and franchise, so you pick Reese (Caveizel's character). His performance is satisfactory, I think most of us can agree he doesn't really hit his groove until at least a few episodes in. Also missing is more stuff about him that was cut (scenes w/ Carter investigating him and Reese's flashbacks, most were rewritten later in 1x21), possibly to fit it into the 42 minute run time over trying to stretch what it had to 90 minutes -A point against it (personally), it doesn't really explain its premise/technobabble until the third act, which is fairly late in a pilot to do so. Not sure if it could be redone in any way though. Could go either way, it's being spread out, leaves some mystery to it, but it's harder to classify this as it's not necessarily procedural-level information, and technobabble overload in the first acts is also just as heinous of a crime. -Doesn't play it safe, it takes the procedural part of its premise (could be a victim or perp) and makes them a perp, again this catches your attention given the fact the show leads you along thinking she's going to be a victim for most of it.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 20:29 |
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hcreight posted:A lot of people don't care for the first few episodes but you should know by episode 7 whether the show is for you or not. But this thread has told me that I can't make a decision to stop watching a show unless I've seen every episode!
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Mu Zeta posted:I think CBS are actively going after Wire actors since I see a lot of them on The Good Wife too. Or they all happen to be in the New York area. Its just a New York thing, you can see the same thing with Law & Order.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 20:46 |
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I just watched the "Bird Up!" episode of Eric Andre Show and I'm pretty convinced that Eric Andre is the most dangerously insane human being on television.
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JohnSherman posted:But this thread has told me that I can't make a decision to stop watching a show unless I've seen every episode! I'm not this thread. Cart posted:Not sure how much Banshee is appointment viewing around these parts but last night's episode was one of the most insane episodes of TV I've ever seen. Just an avalanche of major plot points bookended with some of the most brutal action sequences I've ever seen. Seconding this, catch up on Banshee if you're behind. Last night's ep was, to quote Division Post, "Peak Banshee."
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 21:06 |
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Speaking as someone who railed against watching PoI as recently as a little over a year ago, the show is far and away my #1 show of the past year and I'm a stupid idiot for not having watched it sooner.
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xeria posted:Speaking as someone who railed against watching PoI as recently as a little over a year ago, the show is far and away my #1 show of the past year and I'm a stupid idiot for not having watched it sooner. So you'll be used to the feeling once you finally watch Utopia!
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Sober posted:I'd be curious to know what, to you specifically, makes a great pilot episode of a show, and what you didn't really like about POI's pilot. I won't pretend to know what makes or breaks a pilot of a show because I simply don't know that much about TV. However, the show failed the big test of hooking me into watching more of it which as far as I know is the one thing a pilot really REALLY needs to do. Yes, it established a world, the premise and the characters but I just didn't find any of it interesting apart from maybe Ben from Lost's character. The only reason I'll give it until maybe episode 7 is due to the recommendations from many people in this thread and elsewhere on the forum which I think is fair.
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Lugaloco posted:I won't pretend to know what makes or breaks a pilot of a show because I simply don't know that much about TV. However, the show failed the big test of hooking me into watching more of it which as far as I know is the one thing a pilot really REALLY needs to do. Yes, it established a world, the premise and the characters but I just didn't find any of it interesting apart from maybe Ben from Lost's character. I was all set to binge watch the first season of PoI after seeing all the praise it got, and knowing it had Ben from Lost, but I hated the pilot so much that I lost all interest in it. Maybe it just seemed way too bland and predictable compared to the expectations I had for it from reading the internet.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 23:07 |
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For gently caress's sake guys, stop listening to the people telling you to suffer through seven hours of garbage television. Nobody, not even PoI fans, like the first season. SKIP IT and get to the actual poo poo people have been praising in this, and many other, topics.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 23:24 |
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Zaggitz posted:Good around halfway through S1, really good around halfway through S2. Also while S1 may be the black sheep season I really wouldn't recommend skipping any of it since even the procedural episodes are heavily serialized. S1 is actually pretty amazing on a rewatch because you notice all the background poo poo they have been setting up since the start that they eventually payoff on a massive scale around the mid season of 2. It's watchable halfway through S1, interesting at the end of S1, good through half of S2 with some unevenness, great from then on.
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# ? Jan 24, 2015 23:27 |
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PoI was pretty good right from the start. It just doesn't really get down to what it really is until a few episodes in.
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# ? Jan 25, 2015 00:07 |
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Irish Joe posted:For gently caress's sake guys, stop listening to the people telling you to suffer through seven hours of garbage television. Nobody, not even PoI fans, like the first season. SKIP IT and get to the actual poo poo people have been praising in this, and many other, topics. On an unrelated note, watch 2 Broke Girls. Also 7 episodes of a 1 hour TV show is less than 5 hours now.
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# ? Jan 25, 2015 00:10 |
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I don't know what could be higher praise than Irish Joe saying POI starts bad really.
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# ? Jan 25, 2015 00:28 |
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Irish Joe is probably one of those sickos on tumblr that actually hate POI but only watch the episodes where both Root and Shaw are present and hate it at the moment.
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Sober posted:Irish Joe is probably one of those sickos on tumblr No more needs to be said. Lately people have constantly over exaggerated the whole "skip X episodes/seasons" for people asking about shows they haven't seen yet. It's okay to skip a notably terrible episode here and there, but skipping entire seasons of a show is just dumb if you plan on watching it. pentyne fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jan 25, 2015 |
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If PoI good in the way Arrow or Supernatural is good or is it actually good like Homeland season 4.
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