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I never abandoned you. Remember this is compassionate Denam not practical Denam.
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Helmet 10 Warehouse posted:Update 52: God Save The Queen  pastHelmet 10 Warehouse posted:
Might be nitpicky but I think that'd be more like: 'And if we were to beat her...' And speaking of nitpicky: Helmet 10 Warehouse posted:
rearranged posted:Time for more chatting. Helmet 10 Warehouse posted:
On the right, the flanking team,Helmet 10 Warehouse posted:
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our Also, at this point, Catiua is fully convinced we abandoned her so there's no point in saying we didn't to her. Denam did only what he had to do. It's not his fault he got framed for the massacre and had headhunters all over the two of them! What were they supposed to do when the war started getting intense? Pack up and run to an island and not get wrapped up in it? RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jan 4, 2015 |
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You brought war with you when you came to these islands! Valeria needs you not at all, and my sister needs you even less. 
Oh? It was none other than the Bakram regent who summoned us here. Your very uncle, Brantyn Morne! We are not invaders, but mediators. It is you who insists upon war! If you truly wish order for the islands, then you will follow Lodis! 
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Jan 4, 2015 19:28
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He never abandoned her. Pragmatism went out the window a long time ago. Denam's not the man for it. Plus, you know, he's been talking about how he's doing this to save her way too much to count as abandonment.
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I never abandoned you, too.
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Going with I never abandoned you.
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I don't think Catuia needs to hear Denam contradicting her right now- she's not exactly in a stable state at the moment. Option 2- I did what I had to.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:00
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Denam did what he had to do in order to protect her.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:08
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Denam never abandoned her, she left him because she's the worst person in this game. And that fight was complete loving hell in the PSX version. Only the fight to save a charmed, naked, suicidal Selye(?) was worse since once she unchamred she loving bee-lined for the boss who could murder her.
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Denam never abandoned her, she was just too impatient to wait like two hours for him to come pick her up.
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RareAcumen posted:The results of my poor proofreading skills. Thanks.
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waah posted:Denam did what he had to do . This.
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He only did what he had to do.
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We never abandoned you.Evil Fluffy posted:And that fight was complete loving hell in the PSX version. Only the fight to save a charmed, naked, suicidal Selye(?) was worse since once she unchamred she loving bee-lined for the boss who could murder her. I actually found that battle to be quite easy, as I had three summon orbs, a naked wizard, a naked Mildain, and Canopus. Battle was over in three rounds.
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Yeah, you kinda ran off on your own, Catiua. We never abandoned you. Though we didn't exactly chase after you, either. 
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Helmet 10 Warehouse posted:Thanks. Just trying to help. 
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Huh. The big fight only exacerbated what happened before it - our sister separated from Lancelot when he wanted to flee. That's a neat effect. I say we never abandoned you, sister. She left in the first place because she felt she was growing apart from us. Best not drive a knife into that wound.
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I've gotta say, I wasn't expecting to be seeing Lanselot in an actual fight with our party that could be won so quickly. I'm mostly blown away by how low leveled all of this is happening. I would've expected that we'd see him in a fight as someone to avoid because he was like twenty levels above us at the time and still appear in maybe like three more fights still way too strong to take on before eventually closing the gap and being fightable. Anyway, besides rambling about Lanselot, I wanted to come ask about that gun [Fusil?] we got last mission. How long till we can make use of it?
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Never Abandoned because we are a good boy
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waah posted:So I have a terrible idea that for the new year I want to try an all title run of Tactics Ogre. I am (was?) doing this and it is a terrible, terrible idea. I've stopped four or five times to play other games when it gets too repetitive and it's been about two years, 380 hours on my save, and I still have a bit to go. Although an update to this thread always makes me want to pick it up again. Helmet 10 Warehouse posted:Update 52: God Save The Queen I did only what I had to do. You came all this way to rescue her, don't argue and make sure she knows you're here now and ready to listen to her.
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Voting will end Saturday at 7 pm est!
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Bregor posted:I am (was?) doing this and it is a terrible, terrible idea. I've stopped four or five times to play other games when it gets too repetitive and it's been about two years, 380 hours on my save, and I still have a bit to go. Although an update to this thread always makes me want to pick it up again. Lets not talk about the save file I am putting on hold to do all this with. As trite as it sounds I am annoyed that I didnt build an army that was cohesive in that save file. The sperg in me is convinced that if I do it better knowing everything I know now, I can end up with an army of super characters that make the post game even easier thus less time in general. Really though, i just was tired of grinding up the last few classes before I tackled the PoTD again. I mean a lot of my characters had attributes under 50 because I didnt completely take advatage of the levelling system. I am gonna have a ball when I run the Riesen way repeatedly with 12 fresh terror knights to boost stats. Basically the lesson I learned is that certain unique characters you can pass on because even if they have a slightly lower RT, a generic you have built up since the start of the game can make up for it with inflated stats Edit: also because I have no idea why the game liked me I did the Cistina mission in one try. 
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RareAcumen posted:Anyway, besides rambling about Lanselot, I wanted to come ask about that gun [Fusil?] we got last mission. How long till we can make use of it? To get the Fusil skill, you need a specific class that doesn't appear until some side quests/missions get unlocked. I forget if that's unlocked now or after the next bit of plot. Also, going to vote for Never abandoned you.
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I was thinking of finishing my own run of LUCT PSP version, but reading the LP takes far less time and effort, even if I do now have to wait for updates instead of catching up. Two random thoughts: 1) "Let us cling together" sounds a bit like "Somebody to love", FFT's chapter 4 title, doesn't it? 2) Was the description of "imperfect death" in Cassida's sidequest a Vagrant Story reference? Though in that game it was "incomplete". Regardless, I think the answer should be I never abandoned you, because that's the truth, isn't it? Szurumbur fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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I never abandoned you, because we should cling together. Doesn't she just need somebody to love her?
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I never abandoned you. Ain't nothing pragmatic 'bout our Protag.
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Man, I can't wait to see how telling her we never abandoned her works out. I wonder if she'll point out all those times Denam wasn't around when she was talking to Lanselot and other Dark Knights.
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Denam only did only what he had to do to try to keep her safe and she was too selfish to see it. Maybe she'll listen to us this time! 
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Don't cry for me Catiua, the truth is I never abandoned you....
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Yeah, we totally never abandoned you, Caitua. You're the one who's been using teleport crystals throughout the game whenever your HP got too low. When has Denam ever used a teleport crystal? Yeah, that's what I thought.  Also hey, this game. I practically grew up on it, and it breaks my heart to only find this thread so late in the run. I recall going through all the trouble of getting the Fireseal on the PSX and taking a picture of Denim with it equipped... only to discover that the contest surrounding that had been discontinued for years.  I bought it on the PSP as well and still have a save where I'm somewhere in Chapter 4, but I think I'll let you finish the game for me. It's been too long.It still blows my mind how much of the game changes depending on your choices. I remember this one has a "right" answer that changes depending on things I don't remember, at least in the old version, but both outcomes are awesome, so I'm just speaking from the heart here.
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he did only what he had to Even having played through the game at least five times by now the way this choice works means the exact outcome we'll get is a mystery to me! One of the first ones I can be sure I'm voting based on option rather than outcome.
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We did not abandon you Caitua.
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So for anyone playing this new, or even going back to replay it I think I mostly solved the terrible missions where you have to save the suicidal AI. This doesnt help you for saving Cistina, but for your annoying battles later this works great. A) Recruit a winged humanoid as soon as possible. Golborza plain has them and I think Tenemouth Hill might. Either way they are one first few maps you can have random encounters on. B) If you take the time to raise him as a wizard then rune fencer you will have best results, but thats mainly for spergin. Just a regular rune fencer with divine magic is your main goal. C) Get him Dodge/sidestep/field alchemy skills. Pop a magic leaf at the start of every battle, preferably from a different character so you can preserve the Rune Fencer's RT. D) Get HP infusion which is a skill you learn at level 8. You can do without obviously before level 8, but once you have HP infusion its so much easier. E) Make sure you learn the appropriate level heals and Boon of Swiftness F) Do your best to keep his weight light, but make sure he has a weapon that causes a fair amount of damage. Spears are really good for this due to the extra range. Why no lobber? You need to be accumulating as much TP as possible in bound to your suicidal AI, and sometimes you get screwed with enemy placement. Once you have this character all kitted out, you are ready to save suicidal characters. The last trick you employ is gaming the game just a little (after the 5th time you see a 5 HP Hobyrim run directly away from your characters with mending seeds so that he can attack a phalanxed knight surrounded by archers and mages, you won't care), but it will buy you at least one extra turn to get healing applied. Enter a known "save this character" battle with one of your under used classes, the closer they are to level 1 the better. Keep your green rookie in the back the entire fight. AI characters that would normally smoke the guest characters will make their way towards your main party to kill the squishy level 3 guy. It wont be a complete zerg rush, but you can expect 3 - 5 less attacks on the character you are trying to save. But what about that winged rune fencer you made me make? Why cant i just have vartan Canopus do the hardwork. Well, in a no incap run, or in the battle where you revive a recruitable character, but if they die again they die for good, you need staying power and mobility. As your rune fencer flies into certain doom all those arrows in his chest build his TP. HP infusion is a 1 for 1 TP for HP swap, meaning if he has 165 TP, he can regain 165 HP. This counts as a support action, not as your battle action. So your medic heals himself and heal the character in distress (and also cause some attacks to be directed at the medic instead) all in the same turn. Try it out. Often times you just need to get one heal off to prevent game over, or to avoid a restart. If you can get resiliance or up your spell resistance, you can make it even easier on yourself.
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So what determines the gear you find in shops? Is it the progression of the story or the highest character level?
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Hunt11 posted:So what determines the gear you find in shops? Is it the progression of the story or the highest character level? Story progress, the presence of Deneb, or if the clerk is a skeleton or not.
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Szurumbur posted:I was thinking of finishing my own run of LUCT PSP version, but reading the LP takes far less time and effort, even if I do now have to wait for updates instead of catching up. Two random thoughts: The game's original title was supposed to be 'Lancelot ~ Somebody to Love' after the Queen song. The director, Yasumi Matsuno, put up some of the game's original design documents on Twitter and for an interview:  'Let Us Cling Together' is the English name of Queen song that was sung partially in Japanese called Teo Torriatte.
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