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Metropolis posted:Has any show had a worse fall from grace than Homeland? Haven't watched yet but this is what worries me. Such a strong concept (hell I didn't even read the PKD original) so I'm hoping for something better than Marco Polo which is also "mediocre but with enough strong spots to keep me going if it's there"
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I think he's being hyper critical, not sure what he was expecting from something like that. It's a alt world in 1962. Everything worked except some of the CGi which to be fair wasn't really awful or that much of. The story worked well enough for an adaptation. It changed a fair bit from the book, which i'm reading. I couldn't find a fault besides the CGI. I think it's going to be a smash hit. It's plenty brutal enough, has some pretty cool character on the German and Japanese sides.
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Do the Japanese in the story do a lot of terrible things to the Americans like they did to all of the other countries they invaded? Other than that one instance in the pilot, they seemed very friendly to everyone.
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I think it's fair to say the nazis are wayyyyyyy worse. It's not just the US that was invaded... They set their sights pretty far
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Jan 25, 2015 17:35
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Keeping mind I haven't watched it yet, is the entire world divided into Japanese sphere/Nazi Sphere or is that not made clear?(source material or not)
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Ariza posted:Do the Japanese in the story do a lot of terrible things to the Americans like they did to all of the other countries they invaded? Other than that one instance in the pilot, they seemed very friendly to everyone. The important thing to remember is that the occupation has been in effect for 15 years or so and shows no signs of stopping or seriously weakening. I'd assume that the worst atrocities are a decade old by now, to the extent that they happened in the USA, and won't be back absent a major change in the status quo. Hazily recalled book spoilers: from what I recall, no, there is nothing like what the Japanese did in the places they actually occupied.
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Rocksicles posted:Why are you sullying this thread with Glee bollocks Rarity? If I have to suffer then so should everyone else 
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Alan Smithee posted:Keeping mind I haven't watched it yet, is the entire world divided into Japanese sphere/Nazi Sphere or is that not made clear?(source material or not) Yes and no; Africa is in the midst of a Nazi genocide campaign (there's mentions that the Nazi headquarters in Africa are literally adorned with 20,000 human skulls), Russia has an ongoing guerrilla war, Middle America is a separate buffer nation between Japan/German occupying areas, nothing in the Carribean/Mexico is even mentioned in the book, Italy controls North Africa and the dredged Med's farmland, and Canada is the equivalent of Switzerland. Other countries like Spain, Sweden, etc, are all neutral and unconquered because of the lack of resources. The book drops some hints that the Germans aren't as strong as they seem to be, that their offworld colonization efforts are all but a fake, and that they need/want to destroy the Japanese empire in a decapitation attack to gain more resources/wealth to prop themselves up. Japan in the book has a complete lack of the kind of the Pacific war atrocities that they actually had (or they were much better at covering it up than the Germans), and are more civilized of the two superpowers. Still, each has imported slaves from Africa (those not genocided) doing a lot of the brunt work.
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Rarity posted:The latest episode of Glee involved:
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Jan 25, 2015 18:26
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What's Glee about? Isn't it some college musical show?
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Kurtofan posted:What's Glee about? Isn't it some college musical show? Do you live in a cave in the Himalayas
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Jan 25, 2015 19:55
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smg77 posted:I wish I didn't know anything about Glee. I know absolutely nothing about Glee except for the fact that it is a show that features singing. That is the extent of my knowledge. I feel like it's probably all I ever need to know about it.
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less laughter posted:Do you live in a cave in the Himalayas I've seen the first 1.5ish seasons of Glee and I really couldn't tell you what the gently caress it seems to be about at this point based on the bonkers stuff people post about it now.
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I'm so glad that I treated Glee as a 1 season show. It was fine. If nothing else, Ryan Murphy is reliable for the way he starts strong and quickly dissolves to poo poo.
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IRQ posted:I've seen the first 1.5ish seasons of Glee and I really couldn't tell you what the gently caress it seems to be about at this point based on the bonkers stuff people post about it now. Beiste is having a sex change Real or no real?
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less laughter posted:Do you live in a cave in the Himalayas almost, Paris suburbs. Looking it up, it looks like it's airing on some obscure cable channel called OCS Happy in these parts. it's funny, our main national channels air many US cable shows while a lot of stuff that airs on NBC, Fox whatever is relegated to cable. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jan 25, 2015 |
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Jan 25, 2015 22:19
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Rarity posted:Beiste is having a sex change We playing Glee or Rarity now? (My guess is Rarity)
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DrVenkman posted:I'm so glad that I treated Glee as a 1 season show. It was fine. If nothing else, Ryan Murphy is reliable for the way he starts strong and quickly dissolves to poo poo. Nip/Tuck was so cool at the start  I mean it was batshit insane, undeniably, but it was on the good side of that coin like Spartacus is
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Aye Doc posted:Nip/Tuck was so cool at the start I think that for a while Murphy does 'heightened soap opera' well. And he handled it the best with Nip/Tuck. There are elements of AHS that work well at the start too, but that show has been steadily getting worse with each year (A shame too because it's a killer idea and there's some great settings they've come up with). I don't expect anything less from American Crime Story. He desperately needs someone mandated by the network to say 'No Ryan, this has to make sense. Try it again'.
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DrVenkman posted:He desperately needs someone mandated by the network to say 'No Ryan, this has to make sense. Try it again'. His pilots should come with 5-year plans. DETAILED 5-year plans. But no, his shows have made a bunch of networks a bunch of money so he'll keep turning out stellar pilots/half-season wonders with zero direction and zero followthrough. Coven and Freak Show have proved that he doesn't even have a coherent 13-episode season in him anymore.
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Sober posted:We playing Glee or Rarity now? Nope, Glee! Brittany graduated high school and went to MIT
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Gonz posted:I know absolutely nothing about Glee except for the fact that it is a show that features singing. I've done my best to avoid any knowledge about Glee, so all I know about it is that it started out as a smirking parody of High School Musical but quickly became less self-aware than High School Musical. Also it deprived Party Down of Jane Lynch. I think I've been pretty successful in that regard, and continue to live a happy and fruitful life.
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The cast of Glee were nominated for Grammy awards. They didn't win, but if they had, the Grammys giving out Song of the Year to what's essentially a karaoke act probably would've been a new nadir for them.
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They did it, guys. NBC managed to put out a show that's even more gross and bizarre than Community could have ever imagined. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui1YlTPlW_8 Also, holy poo poo those Youtube comments. raditts fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Looked justifiable to me but excessive. edit: It's based off an Australian novel? Humbug Scoolbus fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Jan 26, 2015 01:43
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raditts posted:They did it, guys. NBC managed to put out a show that's even more gross and bizarre than Community could have ever imagined. This is going to be divisive as poo poo. I couldn't tell, but is the point that the kid was completely out of control (looked like he was wildly swinging a bat around at the other kids and then kicked Quinto when he was trying to lecture him) and so Zachary Quinto smacked him? I can see the argument that its never okay to hit a child but if the hellion is completely willing to hit whoever he wants whenever he wants the parents have failed as disciplinarians and someone smacking the kid isn't a shock. The dialogue from the trailer is gold "This is what scars people for life" lol what hippie bullshit is that no kid is going to grow up and become a drug addict to cope with the one time neighbor Bob smacked him "I'm gonna put that maniac away" "I'm going to destroy them" edit: After reading about the book, the central idea seems to be at what point can an outsider step in when people are failing to raise their child and the child is a danger to others. The trailer makes it seem like some weird super serious matter of life and death. pentyne fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Looked justifiable to me but excessive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WP8I0T9xnk Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Jan 26, 2015 02:25
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If it is, it's pretty cool that i can't see the video, in Australia
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Rocksicles posted:If it is, it's pretty cool that i can't see the video, in Australia Yeah I can't see the NBC video either.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Australian novel which was made into a (high-profile) mini-series here too. Well, that's a much better trailer. If only someone could've gone back in time to stop the slap before it happened...
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pentyne posted:This is going to be divisive as poo poo. In a civil society you aren't allowed to hit other people. You certainly aren't allowed to hit other people's children. It's not really something that should be divisive at all, except for reactionary morons.
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Actually in the civilest societies there were very strict rules about when and how you were allowed to hit other people when you thought they needed it so unless this show ends with the conclusion that America needs to re-institute the noble art of dueling for all citizens, including children, then it's just farting around.
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:In a civil society you aren't allowed to hit other people. You certainly aren't allowed to hit other people's children. It's not really something that should be divisive at all, except for reactionary morons. Tons of people still openly and proudly admit to hitting their kids and get indignant when other people don't. The show is going to cause people to come down hard on either side mostly because the kid who got hit was a wild terror by any definition and his parents are blatant hippie touchy-feely people. It's the kind of perfect "hit a kid situation" that a few decades ago would've been of no concern.
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I was hit as a kid, i don't agree with it. But some kids (teenagers) need a good swift battering.
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Rocksicles posted:I was hit as a kid, i don't agree with it. But some kids (teenagers) need a good swift battering. The best option would've been to drag the kid forcibly over to his parents and start berating them for letting him be a danger to others. I'm more curious how the show turns into some life or death drama. The trailer ends with a guy hitting his breaks and from the context and music it looks like his brakes won't work.
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Alan Smithee posted:Keeping mind I haven't watched it yet, is the entire world divided into Japanese sphere/Nazi Sphere or is that not made clear?(source material or not) It's made clear in the book. I won't say anymore.
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Deadpool posted:Ravane if your posts were actually funny and entertaining it would be fine but they're more like the dad jokes of trolling. They're just kind of embarrassing. Don't post in this thread for a month or so and instead work on some decent material. Alright, alright. Final post then. No more trolling, no more posting for a month for me. Quick mini OP: Nicholas Kristof's "A Path Appears" documentary series about the plight of global sex trafficking airs tomorrow (Monday, Jan 26th) at 10 pm on PBS (via Independent Lens). It's a three-part series covering Human rights violations from countries like Cambodia and Haiti to even countries like the United States. According to Kristof, about 100,000 US children[1] are sold for sex every year. I certainly think it'll be a highly informative series as well as an eye-opener to the reality of our world. I urge everyone to watch, particularly because there's nothing else airing on Mondays at that time, and because the documentary is sure to be amazing. Kristof is a highly respected author and journalist for the NY Times and he's written many articles on topics like freeing underage girls from brothels, even going so far as joining in on police raids of brothels[2]. This is one of his areas of expertise and I'm sure it'll be incredibly enlightening, though afterwards you may be weighed down by the heavy content. Episode dates: January 26, February 2, February 9 (Mondays) at 10 PM on PBS. 1. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/02/opinion/sunday/teenagers-stand-up-to-backpage.html?_r=0 2. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/26/opinion/26kristof.html Also, I turned 23 today.  See you next month.
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Hope you get laid while off SA i'm rooting for you!
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pentyne posted:The best option would've been to drag the kid forcibly over to his parents and start berating them for letting him be a danger to others. I'm more curious how the show turns into some life or death drama. The trailer ends with a guy hitting his breaks and from the context and music it looks like his brakes won't work. Yeah, I can't see this being a series. Some kid was putting people in danger, a guy came up and slapped him to get him under control, and now his negligent parents are crying foul. That's enough material for a two hour tv movie, at most. I can't imagine this sustaining itself for 13 or 22 episodes because the precipitating incident is just so trivial. Why not just do a Hatfields and McCoys tv series instead, because at least those lunatics did something interest with their silly feud?
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