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I actually don't think Racist Truck is that bad of an episode. Out of the first five seasons the only one I really hated was "Swap Meet" where Sam got his mind switched with some dork.
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Swap Meat is super bad but it at least sorta ties into the bigger story. I think that's why Racist Truck stands out. Most of the bad episodes that follow either tie into the overall story or have a sense of humor about themselves. Some people hated Dog Dean Afternoon but at least it was just Supernatural trying to have a laugh and just not working the way they hoped. But Racist Truck is just all on its own, this really terrible story that is really out of tone with the show and takes itself 1000% seriously and never, ever, ever affects them again. I mean, the worst episode is probably that terrible backdoor pilot. But Racist Truck has seniority.
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STAC Goat posted:Swap Meat is super bad but it at least sorta ties into the bigger story. I think that's why Racist Truck stands out. Most of the bad episodes that follow either tie into the overall story or have a sense of humor about themselves. But Racist Truck is just all on its own, this really terrible story that is really out of tone with the show and never, ever, ever affects them again. Supernatural: The Vampire Diaries: Chicago Monster Mob was bad for entirely different reasons. After 8 years of killing literally every monster they come across, Sam and Dean go "welp that's just how they do things here" and take off without killing every monster in the city. It was a really bad attempt to make sexy dangerous teens spin-off of Supernatural but no one watching Supernatural wanted that kind of show, and it ignored everything Supernatural had established up to that point.
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Wasn't it more like "we'd kill all these guys but something something Metatron sorry gotta go!" Whatever, that episode was poo poo.OldSenileGuy posted:Decided I'm gonna use blizzard-time to give Supernatural a chance. I watched the pilot and it was surprisingly decent. Season 1 doesn't really seem to know where it wants to go aside from SEARCHIN FOR DAD so it's a little rough, but yes, once it gets to season 2 it continually gets better through the end of the story arc in season 5. Then it pretty much craters immediately. STAC Goat posted:At this stage "Racist Truck" is kind of a must watch. Not only is it unanimously considered the worst episode so you always have that to assure you things never get that bad again, but at some point they just start referencing the thing and making fun of it in the show itself. If you skip Racist Truck then you miss the joy of laughing at it down the line. Weirdly, in the season 10 behind the scenes special they only mentioned Bugs and Wendigo (which I didn't think was terrible) as the episodes they hated the most, even though they even make a callback to Route 666 later on in the series by referring to it as "the racist truck." Maybe they were so embarrassed that they didn't even want to acknowledge its existence. STAC Goat posted:I mean, the worst episode is probably that terrible backdoor pilot. But Racist Truck has seniority. That backdoor pilot really loving sucked though. raditts fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Jan 27, 2015 02:03
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I think its just easier to accept that Blood Lines isn't an episode of Supernatural. Its a failed CW pilot that Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles randomly wandered on set for and decided to play different characters who just happened to be named Sam and Dean.
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Jan 27, 2015 02:06
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Sober posted:One of these days people are gonna figure out if it was shot in 4:3, it should stay in 4:3, the gaping black bars on the side of the screen be damned. Twenty years ago we were fighting with people over not chopping widescreen stuff down to 4:3. Now my eye twitches when I go over to a relative's place and they're watching some 4:3 program zoomed in and blurry on their 16:9 television...
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Jan 27, 2015 02:16
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Do they ever address how they get money to fund all these wacky adventures
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Jan 27, 2015 02:17
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OldSenileGuy posted:Do they ever address how they get money to fund all these wacky adventures Identity theft. Like, tons of it.
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OldSenileGuy posted:Do they ever address how they get money to fund all these wacky adventures Somewhere in the first episode I think they mention getting money through pool hustling and credit card fraud. They at least mention it a few times when they get arrested. After a few seasons I think the answer just becomes "shut up and roll with it."
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Jan 27, 2015 02:19
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pentyne posted:Identity theft. Like, tons of it. Well, more credit card fraud with supplemental gambling through pool hustling and card games.
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Yeah, the gambling and credit card fraud are pretty consistently mentioned themes to explain how they live. It even comes into play in a few episodes the way you'd expect it to. And you know... roll with it.
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Jan 27, 2015 02:26
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Their fake ID's never ever cease to be funny either.
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Eventually it just becomes funny that no one ever notices. Until one day when someone does and it completely shocks you and them.
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Irish Joe posted:Kristen Stewart strikes me as the kind of gal it'd be cool to get high with and bang on the cas.
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raditts posted:Somewhere in the first episode I think they mention getting money through pool hustling and credit card fraud. They at least mention it a few times when they get arrested. You meet a tech genius later on who works with tons of hunters getting them cards, identities etc.
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Jan 27, 2015 02:41
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Josh Lyman posted:Could be a Katy Perry-type situation though. Where she's hot and then cold? A firework? She kissed a girl and then liked it?
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Jan 27, 2015 02:42
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I sit and watch tv
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zoux posted:Are you an englishman The Queen's on my money.
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That is not the queen, that is just two birds.
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Jan 27, 2015 03:43
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Kristen Stewart is an attractive young woman who doesn't really know how to make more than one facial expression. From the Supernatural I've seen (my wife is binging it now) it does seem to come together a bit more once the fourth and fifth seasons roll around - it kind of reminds me of Fringe, where the amber bus eventually turns out to be a huge plot point in the alternate universe. I caught one episode with a crazy zombie virus (think 28 Days Later) and a season or two later it's the main way the apocalypse comes around. It's a WB/CW show through and through, but folks are right about it having a pretty good sense of humor about itself. I like it, but not really enough to sit down and watch every episode. Most episodes I catch are pretty decent.
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Supernatural also manages to be one of the most violent shows on TV too. It's surprising how much they get away with sometimes.
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muscles like this? posted:I actually don't think Racist Truck is that bad of an episode. Out of the first five seasons the only one I really hated was "Swap Meet" where Sam got his mind switched with some dork. The Racist Truck is a bit after school special "Racism is bad." It doesn't help that while it is supposed to be set in the Deep South, all the supporting actors are very obviously Canadian as gently caress, eh. Which kind of diminishes the effectiveness of the storytelling.
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DrVenkman posted:Supernatural also manages to be one of the most violent shows on TV too. It's surprising how much they get away with sometimes. Maybe most violent show on the CW, but it's not even on the radar when there are shows like Hannibal, American Horror Story, and Spartacus all over the place. Just to name a few shows, from network, basic, and premium channels.
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Jan 27, 2015 11:42
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:Maybe most violent show on the CW, but it's not even on the radar when there are shows like Hannibal, American Horror Story, and Spartacus all over the place. Just to name a few shows, from network, basic, and premium channels. Yeah, seriously. Saying Supernatural is the grossest show on television is like saying anime has the most sophisticated storytelling. In both cases, you desperately need to watch something that isn't made for children/teenagers so you can see how just how wrong you are.
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Banshee this week was a masterclass on TV brutality.
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Sober posted:One of these days people are gonna figure out if it was shot in 4:3, it should stay in 4:3, the gaping black bars on the side of the screen be damned. I like the black bars.
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I'm watching season 1 of the X-Files, and the 4:3 ratio is killing my buzz.
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A weird thing about the first season of Supernatural is how often they gave Sam and Dean (mostly Dean) one episode love interests.
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Considering the lack of regular female characters, they probably felt they had to do something.
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When they did add a regular female character the fans wanted her dead.thrakkorzog posted:The Racist Truck is a bit after school special "Racism is bad." It doesn't help that while it is supposed to be set in the Deep South, all the supporting actors are very obviously Canadian as gently caress, eh. Which kind of diminishes the effectiveness of the storytelling. It's okay, BC is right up there with the South sometimes.
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pentyne posted:
What eps are these (at least the ones past season 5). I quit around then, and I'd like to see the odd MotW/funny episode that's worth watching after that, if there are any. EDIT: About the early season, probably the thing that's most lacking is that they never did enough with the dad. The actor is so great. Shageletic fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Jan 27, 2015 14:49
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Aphrodite posted:When they did add a regular female character the fans wanted her dead. wasn't there one female character who received no such scorn, all because she was a lesbian and thus no threat to the fans' impregnation fanfics about Sam/Dean?
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Aye Doc posted:wasn't there one female character who received no such scorn, all because she was a lesbian and thus no threat to the fans' impregnation fanfics about Sam/Dean? Sort of. A lot of people still dislike her but it's because she is annoying as hell, but she's popular enough to have come back like 4 times. Also some people dislike her just because it's Felicia Day.
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It's important to note from time to time that Supernatural superfans literally believe that Jared and Jensen are secret gay lovers irl, their wives are beards and Jensen's wife was once ejected from a con because a superfan lied to security and told them that his wife was actually a dangerous stalker.
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zoux posted:It's important to note from time to time that Supernatural superfans literally believe that Jared and Jensen are secret gay lovers irl, their wives are beards and Jensen's wife was once ejected from a con because a superfan lied to security and told them that his wife was actually a dangerous stalker. I realize actors need work, but why are these two still doing a show with Superfans like this?
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sbaldrick posted:I realize actors need work, but why are these two still doing a show with Superfans like this? They're making steady paychecks and more or less got their start with the CW/WB, haven't cracked the cultural awareness enough to get major movie roles, and their wives probably got used to it. By now they've learned its just a factor of being a big time C-list celebrity with a extremely obsessed female fanbase and don't attend cons or panels with their husbands. Ackles has done some VA work, but since 2005 has done nothing else and prior to that he was guest starring on WB/CW shows. Same with Padalecki, he was on Gilmore Girls, then straight to Supernatural, and his biggest outside role was the lead in the Friday the 13th reboot which was a minor hit but nothing outstanding, and a few other small horror movies. pentyne fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:Maybe most violent show on the CW, but it's not even on the radar when there are shows like Hannibal, American Horror Story, and Spartacus all over the place. Just to name a few shows, from network, basic, and premium channels. I should've added on Network television to that. And while Hannibal largely exceeds it now (Though I'd argue a lot of violence there is the aftermath - save Verger and his meal time) I can't think of a network show that matches it for the red stuff. Though there was a weird time where Millennium was the most violent thing on TV. I'm not sure why Chris Carter got so brutal, but that first season is not a happy time.
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DrVenkman posted:Supernatural also manages to be one of the most violent shows on TV too. It's surprising how much they get away with sometimes. Maybe not violent in terms of “blood everywhere” like The Walking Dead, but the scene from the episode The Kids Are Alright with the table saw is still one of the more memorable scenes of violence I’ve ever watched on network or cable TV.
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sbaldrick posted:I realize actors need work, but why are these two still doing a show with Superfans like this? It's a genuine career role. It probably also helps that they, apparently, became incredibly good friends. Who wouldn't stay with a job paying TV lead actor money if you got to hang out with you close friends all day and make fun of you fans on-screen? Padalecki even met his wife on the programme... to me it seems like the definition of a dream job.
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