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achillesforever6 posted:The fans keep watching because there isn't a big mainstream counterpart to watch good pro wrestling. Yes there is NJPW, ROH, and now Lucha Underground, but I'm talking more of an WCW level type competition. That and WWE becomes way less aggravating if you don't treat it seriously and put it mostly in the background. And hey even though there are a lot of bad things about the WWE right now, they still have good matches here and there on Raw and Smackdown is usually a good show. The thing why the whole DB debacle gets under fan skins so much is because unlike these other wrestling promos the WWE is becoming a bit too real for comfort. The story about the highly talented guy, who is just a bit too short and has the wrong looks, and who suffers under a crazy boss who only loves big, oiled up muscle-men, has definitely broken through the 4th wall.
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savinhill posted:Who knows, maybe UFC will still be in the market for disgruntled pro wrestlers in a year or so? lol
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I want Erik Watts to manage Roman Reigns since they apparently are running with "yeah I fell out the right dick and that's why I'm beating all your faves so what" as a face angle.
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Congratulations, Seth, you made Brock laugh. Your death will be quick.
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Alain Post posted:I actually kind of want to see Bryan and Sheamus have an actual match lol
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Wait, what? Batista still wins the Rumble and wins the title on Raw? What main events WM21? He didn't go into details, but I would assume that when brainstorming ideas at one point they figured they would do the breakup before the Rumble. Have Batista fight HHH on Raw sometime, do something else entirely with the Rumble & Mania. Then HHH is like look you dummy let's just do this and make Batista a star.
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savinhill posted:Who knows, maybe UFC will still be in the market for disgruntled pro wrestlers in a year or so? the thought of bryan vs lesnar in a mma match is really really really really funny and i would pay a lot of money to see brock lesnar kill indy superstar daniel bryan on ppv
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triplexpac posted:I was listening to Meltzer talk about Wrestlemania 21 and he told the story about how Batista explained to him that WWE wanted to do HHH vs Batista right away on Raw. HHH had to put up a huge fight and force them to drag it out to the Mania moment it finally became. thats kind of a silly thing to say. the guy has been running the company for over 30 years and it has seen a lot of successes in that time.
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Just a reminder, Reigns' first title defense will be in Chicago 
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Reigns is going to spear Lesnar like 5 times and it won't be enough to beat him. Lesnar will win, Seth cashes in and wins the title thanks to Reigns weakening the monster. TwitterVince was right 2015 is going to be the best year, gently caress the haters.
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I'm finding this pretty confusing... for an organization that has cared so little about anything besides building up Cena and occasionally HHH-they've managed to build up their first legitimate main event heel monster in years and for the first time ever managed to let one of his credentials be thoroughly destroying Cena without giving him his win back shortly after (hooray parity booking!). In Brock, you have the guy who has routinely ragdolled Cena and who broke the streak. As far as rubs go, beating Brock is actaully bigger than winning the belt. Word is Brock is on his way out after Wrestlemania, which means that to get this rub, someone will have to beat him there. You have Rollins, who has played a wonderful chickenshit heel who still manages to be somewhat of a threat. But chickenshitting or cashing in on his way to beating a weakened Brock defeats the purpose of letting him keep his win over Cena. In the absolute best case scenario he's the new Edge but you've wasted the rub of defeating the most imposing monster on the roster. In the real world (heh), is there any chance he's not the new Miz? You have Cena, which is what the dumb as hell move WWE does every time. You have Ambrose, who is over as all hell but whose entire singles run thus far would require him to win a spotfest. Which, again, wastes the year of building Brock up as the unbeatable monster (though is a smart move if Brock is sticking around. Heyman can talk for ages about how the only way to beat MY CLIENT is an Elbow Drop off of the scaffolding through a flaming table of thumbtacks onto some light tubes) You have Bryan, who is the most consistently over wrestler on the roster and whose lack of success in any given match inspires mainstream media coverage of fan revolt. This is the move that the WWE usually makes-and the one that PSP, reddit and myself usually crush them for. Bryan doesn't need this rub, at all. He's also a misjudged bump or two away from becoming a farm (see: panic over house show reports). Finally, you have Reigns, whose sole PPV singles match was a perfectly passable (hell, Meltzer thought ****) affair with Orton that came despite being injured (and thus limited in moveset). He, Cena and Bryan are the only ones who have been booked to credibly stand toe-to-toe with Lesnar and beat him (also arguably Ziggler, who is a concussion away from disaster-and older than Bryan). He's rough on the mic (though hardly rating among the worst that the WWE has pushed. Lashley? Lesnar the first time around? Face Batista?) and unproven in the ring as a singles competitor (though drat good in tag matches)... he's also someone that the crowd has connected with despite spending the bulk of his brief time as a singles wrestler injured and out of sight. I can't understand the the level of angst over the WWE looking at Cena, an injury prone man in his 30s with near-universal fan support, and a guy in his 20s who is-at worst-on the fringe of the main event... and choosing to use their biggest rub to put over the youngest one that the crowd connects with. Outside of the fact that the middle one is named Daniel Bryan and we'd all like the company that routinely fucks up easy choices to gently caress one up in favor of a guy we love for once.
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The Landstander posted:
I believe Yokozuna's title match at Wrestlemania 9 was his second singles match on a PPV, having squashed Virgil at Survivor Series 1992.
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This hadn't even dawned on me. That's easily got to be a record for a main event WM match.
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Just a reminder, Reigns' first title defense will be in Chicago Go outside that night, no matter where you live. It will be possible to hear the CM Punk chants from any point on the planet.
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UpfrontSalmon posted:Reigns is going to spear Lesnar like 5 times and it won't be enough to beat him. Lesnar will win, Seth cashes in and wins the title thanks to Reigns weakening the monster. TwitterVince was right 2015 is going to be the best year, gently caress the haters. So what you're saying is, "Wait and see."
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Rusty Shackelford posted:I believe Yokozuna's title match at Wrestlemania 9 was his second singles match on a PPV, having squashed Virgil at Survivor Series 1992. I suppose some of the earlier WrestleManias would count as well, but the PPV schedule was so different then from now. Also Yokozuna is also Anoa'i 
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The Landstander posted:I suppose some of the earlier WrestleManias would count as well, but the PPV schedule was so different then from now. If you go with the modern era, the Big Show was in 5 singles matches on PPV before he won the title.
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If they really wanted to send a nice message for Roman's coronation why not The Shield v Lesnar in a fatal four way to finally end The Shield storyline that never got completed? It'd have a nice farewell to three years of build up, AND hide his weaknesses. Because honestly, the best way to make this match happen is for Reigns to not be alone with Brock. If Cena couldn't beat him three times in a row, what makes anyone think Roman could? The fourway evens the odds while also managing the opportunity to tell a story (the final farewell to The Shield).
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triplexpac posted:It's amazing how almost every single great moment WWE has had has come about pretty much in spite of Vince McMahon. It's my favorite part of the docs/originals on the network. All the good stuff that happened starts off with "Vince wanted to do it this other terrible way and we talked him out of it".
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Himuro posted:If they really wanted to send a nice message for Roman's coronation why not The Shield v Lesnar in a fatal four way to finally end The Shield storyline that never got completed? It'd have a nice farewell to three years of build up, AND hide his weaknesses. Because honestly, the best way to make this match happen is for Reigns to not be alone with a Brock. If Cena couldn't beat him three times in a row, what makes anyone think Roman could? The fourway evens the odds while also managing the opportunity to tell a story (the final farewell to The Shield). Would Bray Wyatt appear in a hologram? It's amazing to me that we never got a real finish to what should have been an epic feud between the Shield members.
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Geoff Peterson posted:
how has reigns been booked to be able to stand against Lesnar? he's only had one PPV singles match, as you said, and the rest of the time he's been hidden in six way tags where he can do his cool poo poo that takes like 2 minutes tops. he's been stuck in a heatless parity booking feud with god drat big show. reigns is not a threat to lesnar, unless they seriously go with the whole "spear to broken rib" shenanigans.
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I want to see Lesnar fight the entire locker room one after another in a non-stop gauntlet match, eating finishers and signature spots until someone finally puts him down.
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Variety reports that WWE today announced the Network had passed the 1 million subscriber mark. This seems very dubious to me. They have to mean that there's been 1 million people that have subscribed including people that have since cancelled, right?
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Niwrad posted:Would Bray Wyatt appear in a hologram? Doing this also allows Ambrose and Rollins to continue their feud post Mania.
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NickRoweFillea posted:how has reigns been booked to be able to stand against Lesnar? he's only had one PPV singles match, as you said, and the rest of the time he's been hidden in six way tags where he can do his cool poo poo that takes like 2 minutes tops. he's been stuck in a heatless parity booking feud with god drat big show. reigns is not a threat to lesnar, unless they seriously go with the whole "spear to broken rib" shenanigans. Maybe Roman should steal Gary Strydom's catchphrase "Too legit to quit" he'll be over like rover
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He has a match at fast lane guys it's his third match. It's totally cool
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Roman Reigns is too sweet to be sour
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Daniel Bryan posted:Maybe Roman should steal Gary Strydom's catchphrase "Too legit to quit" he'll be over like rover This just reminded me that Truth shouted WHOOMP THERE IT IS at the Rumble.
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Spermgod posted:Variety reports that WWE today announced the Network had passed the 1 million subscriber mark. That's odd. Maybe the UK is more successful than we thought it would? Maybe the free month worked more magic than anyone expected?
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MotU posted:I want to see Lesnar fight the entire locker room one after another in a non-stop gauntlet match, eating finishers and signature spots until someone finally puts him down. And that someone, is Curtis Axel. #JusticeForAxel
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karmicknight posted:And that someone, is Curtis Axel. Didn't Mr. Perfect actually legit beat up on Brock on the flight from Hell? Or am I misremembering?
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Vince posted:These results represent a 37 percent increase (24 percent domestically) in subscribers since last reported at the end of third quarter 2014, driven primarily by a successful free November promotion, the launch of the service in the UK and significant additions for the Royal Rumble pay-per-view event.
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NickRoweFillea posted:how has reigns been booked to be able to stand against Lesnar? he's only had one PPV singles match, as you said, and the rest of the time he's been hidden in six way tags where he can do his cool poo poo that takes like 2 minutes tops. he's been stuck in a heatless parity booking feud with god drat big show. reigns is not a threat to lesnar, unless they seriously go with the whole "spear to broken rib" shenanigans. You say "Hidden and able to do his cool poo poo that takes like 2 minutes tops", I say "The match-ending/hot-tagging 'muscle' guy in the most dominant faction since Evolution-with two well built up and protected signature moves". And seriously? Reigns hasn't eaten a pinfall or submission in more than a year. Including houseshows. Which is disgusting in its own right, but he's been booked stronger than Cena over the last 12 months.
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Mountain Lightning posted:It's super funny that people are getting legit mad over fake fighting. Everyone will be back for Wrestlemania though like always. BELEE DAT!
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Two Beans posted:110%, imo. Wearing dreads and speaking patwah. Green, yellow, and red tactical gear. Babylon Baby Reigns
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Daniel Bryan posted:That's odd. Maybe the UK is more successful than we thought it would? Maybe the free month worked more magic than anyone expected? I don't know how many times I have heard on the forums that "everyone that wants the network in the UK already has it and uses a VPN". Clearly that was not the case.
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Spermgod posted:Variety reports that WWE today announced the Network had passed the 1 million subscriber mark. drat look at the stock soar since the announcement, I also jumped on board with 250 shares. Hammerstein fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Well, congrats to WWE for hitting 1 million. Of course, the next question is how many canceled after the Rumble.
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Geoff Peterson posted:And seriously? Reigns hasn't eaten a pinfall or submission in more than a year. Including houseshows. Which is disgusting in its own right, but he's been booked stronger than Cena over the last 12 months. Reigns is supposed to be the next top guy, he shouldn't be eating pinfalls lol.
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