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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:Padalecki even met his wife on the programme... I still can't believe he married Fake Ruby!
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A friend of mine is currently going through Supernatural and she has a problem with the unrealistic fact that every single person they cross paths with in the show is insanely attractive. She knows that pretty much every TV show does this but I guess it's too much for her that Supernatural and other CW shows crank the hot people factor up to 11. Dumb thing to get worked up about I know, but I suppose if you don't watch that much TV things like that jump out at you.
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Jan 27, 2015 19:34
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That's the CW, no matter the show. You have to take it with anything the network does.
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Jan 27, 2015 19:36
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I think Supernatural is one of the lesser offenders on the CW as far as staffing gorgeous people. Not that there's anyone truly ugly, but Ash, Ellen, Bobby, Sheriff Mills, the Ghostfacers and other recurring characters are all pretty normal looking folk. Compare that to Reign, or Vampire Diaries, or Originals, or just about any other CW show I've seen and it doesn't seem as bad.
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Jan 27, 2015 19:47
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Even in their Beauty and the Beast remake.
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Jan 27, 2015 19:48
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My sister won't watch Supernatural because she's heard it's misogynist, and if you tell her something's misogynist, she will take your word for it and do no due diligence to confirm it. Supernatural is pretty misogynist, though. It keeps killing off heroic supporting female characters, and then every other supporting female character is a textbook case of the Monstrous Feminine. And Sam and Dean have so many disposable love interests throughout the series. And it relies on a bunch of sexist tropes. But Mystery Spot and Changing Channels are amazing. and Swan Song is the best series finale that didn't actually end the series (I haven't seen anything beyond it).
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Jan 27, 2015 19:53
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Jingleheimer posted:A friend of mine is currently going through Supernatural and she has a problem with the unrealistic fact that every single person they cross paths with in the show is insanely attractive. She knows that pretty much every TV show does this but I guess it's too much for her that Supernatural and other CW shows crank the hot people factor up to 11. Dumb thing to get worked up about I know, but I suppose if you don't watch that much TV things like that jump out at you. That's normal for Canada. What, you guys don't have that?
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Jan 27, 2015 19:57
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Don't they keep killing off female characters because their terrible--largely female--tumblr fanbase demands it?
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Jan 27, 2015 19:58
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hcreight posted:Don't they keep killing off female characters because their terrible--largely female--tumblr fanbase demands it? It happened to three of them for sure. Both Rubys and Lauren Cohen's character
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Jan 27, 2015 20:00
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hcreight posted:Don't they keep killing off female characters because their terrible--largely female--tumblr fanbase demands it? Yeah, but on the other hand, Sheriff Mills and Deputy Fargo (I can never remember her real name) seem to still be kicking. And Sheriff Mills has been around in a couple episodes a season since like...6, so there's that. And there's the aforementioned Felicia Day character, but she's still around because she's not viewed as a risk.
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Manos del Sino posted:I think Supernatural is one of the lesser offenders on the CW as far as staffing gorgeous people. Not that there's anyone truly ugly, but Ash, Ellen, Bobby, Sheriff Mills, the Ghostfacers and other recurring characters are all pretty normal looking folk. Jim Beaver is a pretty handsome fella if you go for bears 
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raditts posted:He's a supermodel compared to Benedict Cumberbatch and we all know about the weird fangirl cult around that guy. Seems weird getting upset at this. I mean if you don't accept the opinions of straight women on which men are attractive then what is the better metric? Heaven forbid the American ideal of male beauty ever be tested I guess.
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Jan 27, 2015 21:11
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Nerds don't like Benedict Cumberbatch because they make the geeky girls that play video games and like Star Wars horney at him and not them.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Seems weird getting upset at this. I mean if you don't accept the opinions of straight women on which men are attractive then what is the better metric? Heaven forbid the American ideal of male beauty ever be tested I guess. People magazine. Duh.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Seems weird getting upset at this. I mean if you don't accept the opinions of straight women on which men are attractive then what is the better metric? Heaven forbid the American ideal of male beauty ever be tested I guess. Except Benedict Cumberbatch is not attractive by any conventional metric of attractiveness, but because he's hideously ugly and therefore "attainable." He's essentially the male equivalent of the sci-fi nerd girl goons always flip out over (see: Claudia from Warehouse 13). Its an unhealthy attraction based on the attractee's low self-esteem. Now don't get me wrong, as an ugly guy myself, I couldn't care less what the "American ideal of male beauty" is, but I want it to be a healthy ideal and not one based on attainability (because that bar is depressingly low). Irish Joe fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:Seems weird getting upset at this. I mean if you don't accept the opinions of straight women on which men are attractive then what is the better metric? Heaven forbid the American ideal of male beauty ever be tested I guess. He didn't seem upset to me. Bramblebrush Cummybarge is just kind of a weird looking dude is all. Also he has a funny name.
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Jan 27, 2015 22:34
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I heard on somewhere on here a while back that Benedict Cumberbatch looks like what a human would look like if assembled by aliens who only kind of knew what humans were supposed to look like. Same goes for Matt Smith.
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He reminds me of the girl on that really, really old playstation ad with the symmetrical face.
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zoux posted:Nerds don't like Benedict Cumberbatch because they make the geeky girls that play video games and like Star Wars horney at him and not them. People always get pissy about the opposite sex finding something other than them attractive and try and rationalize it away. Nerdy guys calling Cumberbatch an alien is just the male version of women calling models skinny bitches, just like how guys grumbling about how unhealthy the relationships in Twilight and 50 Shades Of Grey are has the exact same tone as women grumbling about porn being unrealistic.
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Jan 27, 2015 23:10
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I kinda quit watching after the water lady episode but I hear that Sleepy Hollow has been real bad this season?
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Just boring. I have two episodes on my DVR and I'd rather catch up on The Librarians.
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Sleeveless posted:People always get pissy about the opposite sex finding something other than them attractive and try and rationalize it away. Nerdy guys calling Cumberbatch an alien is just the male version of women calling models skinny bitches, just like how guys grumbling about how unhealthy the relationships in Twilight and 50 Shades Of Grey are has the exact same tone as women grumbling about porn being unrealistic. Someone got Irish Joe a new account for xmas 
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zoux posted:I kinda quit watching after the water lady episode but I hear that Sleepy Hollow has been real bad this season? Boring. They don't have a clear direction of where they want to go and so it just seems like nothing important happens.
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Jan 27, 2015 23:15
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Good god does the X Files get good in the middle of Season 1. Eve, Beyond the Sea, Fallen Angel. Just stellar episodes that I'm happy to only vaguely remember. Beyond the Sea even made me tear up a bit. Just quality stuff.
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I'm like 4 episodes behind on Sleepy Hollow because the first half of the season took most of the things I loved about the show (Jenny, Irving) and sidelined them and replaced them with much worse characters (Katrina, that white treasure hunter dude). It wasn't giving Abbie very much to do, either. I'll probably catch up one weekend soon, though.
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Sleepy Hollow has made three mistakes this year that has caused it to move from must see to will watch later. The first is downsizing Orlando Jones' role. The second is seemingly wrapping up a big part of the ongoing story too quickly. The third and biggest mistake is increasing Katia Winter's role. She should just be removed from the show altogether. The one good change up is adding Matt Barr because he's great and his character is a lot of fun.
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Sleepy Hollow feels like Fox execs told them that the show had too many prominent black characters so they had to sideline Orlando and add a handsome blonde dude and promote the one white woman they had to co-star status and even have the Horseman speaking a lot which he basically never did in the first season. At least they brought Orlando back. Irish Joe posted:Saying Supernatural is the grossest show on television is like saying anime has the most sophisticated storytelling
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Deadpool posted:Sleepy Hollow has made three mistakes this year that has caused it to move from must see to will watch later. The first is downsizing Orlando Jones' role. The second is seemingly wrapping up a big part of the ongoing story too quickly. The third and biggest mistake is increasing Katia Winter's role. She should just be removed from the show altogether. The one good change up is adding Matt Barr because he's great and his character is a lot of fun. Also I personally don't have a raging hate boner for Katia Winter/Katrina Crane like the rest of tumblr or AVClub or the rest of the Internet but they really just misuse her so poorly that I really can't defend her on the show as the episodes continue. She just shows up for a thing and we get nothing until she comes out to plot block everyone. Last episode started with the gang out for a drink and doing karaoke at the bar. Where was Katrina? No where to be found. That's just horrible oversight. Or maybe they want to play her as some basement dwelling goon who hates going outside, I guess. I don't know anymore. But yeah SH just loving plummeted after a few weeks in. People I know stopped livetweeting, forum threads during and immediately after the show just dropped so much.
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Benedict Cumberbatch and the guy who plays Loki are goofy looking. Matt Smith less so but him too. They're popular because hey, turns out that doesn't matter as much as people think. All those other reasons are some weird projection, and Irish Joe. And then there's this... quote:guys grumbling about how unhealthy the relationships in Twilight and 50 Shades Of Grey ...which I don't think is actually a thing anyone does. But if they do I think your boyfriend turning you into a vampire actually is pretty unhealthy.
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I'm another person who just lost interest in Sleepy Hollow. The second season just seemed so slow and derivative compared to what came before, it was a huge disappointment.
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Deadpool posted:Sleepy Hollow has made three mistakes this year that has caused it to move from must see to will watch later. The first is downsizing Orlando Jones' role. The second is seemingly wrapping up a big part of the ongoing story too quickly. The third and biggest mistake is increasing Katia Winter's role. She should just be removed from the show altogether. The one good change up is adding Matt Barr because he's great and his character is a lot of fun. It seems to lack the energy and rhythm that made the first season so much fun. It's gone from, "Oh man, what crazy thing is going to happen next!" to "Oh, here's the monster of the week." It's like they got their first and second seasons reversed.
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Random Stranger posted:It's like they got their first and second seasons reversed. Yeah it really does feel like it. It's like if Fringe's first season fully introduced the observers and Universe B, and then the second season was just them working for the FBI on unusual cases.
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That article about impending network meddling makes me pessimistic that Season 3 is gonna be worse, so I think there's a fair chance I'll stop too.
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Men get confused by women liking dudes like Cumberbatch and Hiddleston because men are primarily driven by physical appearance in terms of how they rate attractiveness, and many cannot conceive of any other metric for rating attractiveness. This is not necessarily biological as much as it is due to societal gender roles that encourage guys to think of attractiveness in the shallowest terms possible. Women, on the other hand, tend to be socialized in a way where they determine attractiveness by a combination of physical appearance and more intangible factors such as charisma and reliability. Some women are even willing to completely ignore the physical aspect because the man in question fulfills so many of their other criteria; the whole Aphrodite and Hephaestus situation (or for people who never studied Greek mythology, the sitcom trope of the fat guy with the hot wife). So, while Cumberbatch and Hiddleston are not necessarily examples of peak physical perfection, they have a certain magnetism that makes them attractive to women. That dudes keep bitching about women being attracted to Cumberbatch and Hiddleston shows remarkable lack of awareness on their part, and more than a little pathetic jealousy. Some seem to want it to be the case that women are shallow, only interested in looks, because it would then explain why they have little success with women, and would also prove women inferior to men. When women are shallow, it tends to be in different, more functional ways; that is, they look for men of high socioeconomic status, or at least a guy with a reliable, decently paying job. In general, a lot of the problems guys in modern Western societies are having with dating stems from the fact that men's standards have not evolved with the times fast enough, and that many of them are either accidentally or willfully ignorant of what women actually find attractive in a guy. This is all a long way of saying that it's really loving simple understanding why women find men like Cumberbatch attractive, not some sort of complex problem of the kind only Sherlock could solve.
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IRQ posted:He didn't seem upset to me. Bramblebrush Cummybarge is just kind of a weird looking dude is all. Also he has a funny name. I'm sure he cries himself to sleep each night wishing he had a proper manly 'merican name. Like Skip 'Rockjaw' Jogalong-Dashfast III. Aphrodite posted:
The complaints I've heard about 50 Shades, other than it just being badly written, usually focus on "Jesus Christ if you actually try that you'll kill someone, this is dangerously inaccurate." Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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pentyne posted:They're making steady paychecks and more or less got their start with the CW/WB, haven't cracked the cultural awareness enough to get major movie roles, and their wives probably got used to it.  He was in the My Bloody Valentine reboot, not F13.edit: wait, that was Dean, not Sam, nevermind Regarde Aduck posted:Seems weird getting upset at this. I mean if you don't accept the opinions of straight women on which men are attractive then what is the better metric? Heaven forbid the American ideal of male beauty ever be tested I guess. What the gently caress about that post suggested to you that I was in any way "upset"? In fact if you bothered to actually read my post in context before assessing my SEETHING RAGE you'd see my point is that looks do not at all factor in to whether people will obsess over you and/or find you attractive. (At least, not if you're famous.) If you have some issue with my saying he has a "weird fangirl cult" then consider the fact that they call themselves "cumberbitches" and watch any interview where he talks about them and see the mix of bewilderment with a hint of embarrassment on his face. raditts fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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This has been edited to include the proper version of Carry on Wayward Son at the end which means it's missing much of the charm of the original, which had JAPANESE POORLY SPOKEN Carry on my Wayward Son. It was pretty ingenious and I'm sad it's missing.
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Spatula City posted:the whole Aphrodite and Hephaestus situation Slander. Spatula City posted:This is all a long way of saying that it's really loving simple understanding why women find men like Cumberbatch attractive, not some sort of complex problem of the kind only Sherlock could solve. Actually it's still kind of a mystery in his case, because it's not Star Trek and Sherlock is a really unappealing character.
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Fremantle Media is set to launch Buzzr, their own game show (sub)network in August, with 17 Fox-owned and operated stations having signed up. quote:The only costs to FremantleMedia are residual paychecks for the game shows’ hosts and the fees to convert the episodes to digital. “Since we own all the product, the cost of programming is next to nothing,” says Thom Beers, CEO of FremantleMedia North America. “It’s a beautiful model. We only have one competitor [GSN]. That’s not a bad place to be.” The article mentions that the Buzzr imprint has already started producing some shows with their youtube channel, so far a version of Password and (yet another) Family Feud, this time with "YouTube talent" (  ), and they hope to bring some form of those to the broadcast channel. What they're trying to do and why they're doing makes sense, and it's not like they're trying to directly compete with GSN. It'll be interesting to see how many stations they got signed up. Gene Hackman Fan fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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Aphrodite posted:Sherlock is a really unappealing character. Man if you do not know that there are a lot of women (and probably men too) who will go nuts over a remote genius who tackles the world around him with logic and a complete lack of social understanding while hiding his secretly tender but not too tender heart, then there are large swaths of tumblr that you've left unexplored in your travels. As well as my own personal Live Journal.
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