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merk posted:I'll try to make a persuasive case on Chic. I look forward to reading it. I'm definitely not convinced either way.
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merk posted:What about my comment that she could easily be a scum player trying to breadcrumb something to look town. I approach busy players from a default status of town-- they are more likely to be town by numbers alone. They have to do something that stands out for me to think they are scummy. Chic has done one thing I read as town and a whole bunch of whatever. Asiina has done two things I think are scummy and a whole bunch of whatever. Chic is not scummy. Asiina is. That is my opinion. YAY FRIDAY.
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Jan 30, 2015 20:01
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yuming stop being mean
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Jan 30, 2015 20:26
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I'm saying I give players the benefit of the doubt. That's nice  I am also annoyed that like 3 people asked me about the same poster.
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Jan 30, 2015 20:27
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Because you are being dodgy and not helpful
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Jan 30, 2015 20:30
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Rascyc posted:Because you are being dodgy and not helpful Yeah, your justification before that last post was basically 'she's town because she's town'. That wasn't very helpful to me.
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Jan 30, 2015 20:35
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yuming posted:I'm saying I give players the benefit of the doubt. That's nice Well that's all well and good but I, for one, would like your thoughts on chic.
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Jan 30, 2015 20:36
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Chic Trombone posted:But the BP wouldn't protect him from a lynch? I dunno man if you think he's scum that's fine I think he was being scummy too but I don't see how the BP would make you think he's MORE scummy - Chic is actively commenting or asking the weirdest things: "If you think he's scum that's fine" - Effectively skips day 1 but seems to have a magical unexplained read on Kaschei/Amni was scummy - Overly cautious posting ##vote Chic
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Jan 30, 2015 20:40
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lol Keane. I'm especially annoyed because this is the same struggle I have been having all game. "Comment on this neutral-town poster." "I have nothing to say!" "I DON'T CARE + you're scummy OMG" Anyways I am still about half-way through my read and have two more reports to write. I am writing goals for spastic dysarthria atm woo~
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Jan 30, 2015 20:42
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"I have nothing to say" is far different than:opo posted:Looking [Chic] over I feel ok about chic, her response seem natural enough to me yuming posted:Yes. I agree. Your first impressions around Chic feel really fake. If you had nothing to say, you should've said that instead of trying to force something out.
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Jan 30, 2015 20:52
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Okay I'm around. Nothing in the past ~150 posts or so has really stood out to me. I would still vote Meinberg; dude has disappeared since the lynch yesterday. I've cooled off a little on Byers but still think he's scummy; none of his recent posts have stood out to me as that bad though. I still have poor gut impressions of wins and yuming, though it doesn't go much further than that. No strong opinion on Chic and Asiina but I wouldn't shed a tear if they were lynched at this point. I'll see if I can find a case here that I find satisfying enough to vote for.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:01
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merk posted:"I have nothing to say" is far different than: It's only one little thing but it tips my scale. I didn't think this was so complicated? Neutral poster + one sincere sounding comment = neutral-town read. I'm posting the psyduck because of how this conversation makes me feel. 
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Jan 30, 2015 21:02
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Isn't it possible that her breadcrumb is sincere, but she's still scum?
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Jan 30, 2015 21:31
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The separation between town and scum is that scum have to fake content about player alignment. If she actually gave Ernie that ring as scum, there is no faking necessary. Of course that will sound sincere because it actually happened.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:32
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merk posted:The separation between town and scum is that scum have to fake content about player alignment. If she actually gave Ernie that ring as scum, there is no faking necessary. Of course that will sound sincere because it actually happened. I'm not sure I believe this is an appropriate metric 100% of the time, since there can be competing scum factions.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:34
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##vote Yuming I'm getting awkward vibes from her posting today.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:49
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CCKeane posted:I'm not sure I believe this is an appropriate metric 100% of the time, since there can be competing scum factions. Yeah, I don't want to get too deep into a general mafia discussion, but this is why I really dislike opposing scum teams.
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I don't think breadcrumbing says anything about alignment. Personally I almost never breadcrumb unless I'm scum or cop or mason. Cops and masons may want to leave some evidence either of their investigations or of their connection to other mason buddies if they die; scum breadcrumbs can shore up a weaker fake claim. For most other roles I don't see the point.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:56
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Somberbrero posted:##vote Yuming I'm concerned that she said she was here on Friday to really dive in and figure out the game, but she's done nothing.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:57
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Hmm... or maybe I'm remembering another poster. I can't find where she said that.
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Jan 30, 2015 21:58
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The Ninth Layer posted:I don't think breadcrumbing says anything about alignment. Personally I almost never breadcrumb unless I'm scum or cop or mason. Cops and masons may want to leave some evidence either of their investigations or of their connection to other mason buddies if they die; scum breadcrumbs can shore up a weaker fake claim. For most other roles I don't see the point. It can be important information if someone is about to be lynched and they can point back to a breadcrumb to back up their claim.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:01
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Meh. I tend to think it's on the scummy side to post breadcrumbs because it means you're planning for your claim/lynch from the beginning of the game; I tend to ignore claims and breadcrumbs in general when voting people though so maybe that's just me.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:08
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The only good breadcrumbs are Dead Cow breadcrumbs.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:09
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merk posted:The only good breadcrumbs are Dead Cow breadcrumbs. Nay, Marvin the jerk. SCUMHUNTER remains the best breadcrumb of all time.
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CCKeane posted:Nay, Marvin the jerk. SCUMHUNTER remains the best breadcrumb of all time. Seriously, CCKeane? Until my high, uppity needs tip everyone's reasonable beliefs about Chic's alignment, I'm going to ignore the breadcrumb as alignment neutral.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:18
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merk posted:Seriously, CCKeane? Until my high, uppity needs tip everyone's reasonable beliefs about Chic's alignment, I'm going to ignore the breadcrumb as alignment neutral. I'm going to assume you wrote this post on a phone?
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Jan 30, 2015 22:20
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Making a good scumhunter breadcrumb joke is tough work.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:22
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CCKeane, let me track you a question.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:22
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merk posted:CCKeane, let me track you a question. Shoot.
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Jan 30, 2015 22:27
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merk posted:I'm concerned that she said she was here on Friday to really dive in and figure out the game, but she's done nothing. Also I got one less report done today than I was hoping. I'm going to vote for Asiina because she is scummier than Chic and it is silly that so many people think the opposite so you should go look at Asiina ok, thanks. ##vote Asiina
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Jan 30, 2015 22:57
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I am p much booked all weekend. I will be back... sometime.
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I believe Chic's breadcrumb and that she did give out an item, but don't think it says anything about her alignment. Reading through her post history though she is very wishy-washy with all of her opinions. It's pretty much all hedging. ##unvote ##vote Chic I still think EP is scum though.
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##unvote ##vote asiina That is the fakest vote I've ever seen. You're convinced EP is scum before this, then switch to Chic because shes got some traction but hedge the gently caress out of that vote and STILL MAINTAIN you find EP scummy. That's ridiculous!
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Jan 30, 2015 23:15
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True and Real posted:##unvote Finding two people scummy at the same time is impossible? I'm also not hedging about Chic, I just don't think that her breadcrumb is related.
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You've been toting the idea that EP is scum since you joined the game. It's the only alignment call you've made so far. In fact, you neglected to comment on almost anyone else, suggesting you felt reasonably confident that EP is scum. And hey, you still maintain that he is. Yet you vote for Chic because she was...wishy washy? That's it? That's enough for you to switch your vote from the person you're confident is scum nowhere near close enough to deadline for it to be because EP wasn't going to be lynched today? No.
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True and Real posted:##unvote I agree with this, actually. I think I may need to reevaluate EP, actually. I think I'm going to give him a rest for today. I still don't like him and Somber, but yeah. ##unvote ##vote: Asiina
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Jan 30, 2015 23:26
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I believe both of these people are scum. Why does it matter where my vote sits between the two of them?
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Alright yeah, reading through the thread made my head hurt, I stopped when the 20 posts of jokes happened so alternate gameplan: Random.org give me a number between 1 and 21. 4. Okay rarity. Give me a player who is scum and why, and a player who is town and why.
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Amnistar posted:Alright yeah, reading through the thread made my head hurt, I stopped when the 20 posts of jokes happened so alternate gameplan: Day 1: Rarity, Lucilia meg-Mullanor, Thief (town-aligned thief), executed.
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Amnistar what do you think of asiina, same for you fits
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