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Linguica posted:If Ulbricht's insane Chewbacca-defense strategy actually works that just means more laffs on the laffchain though It's interesting to see where Dratel's reputation might actually have come from. After all the procedural fuckups, he impresses people with his skill at closing arguments? Not what I was expecting, necessarily. On the upside, Ross already has his If I Did It 99% written.
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Please dont post my business in here. ty
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“We experience with our senses, with our perceptions, we make decisions based on facts we can rely on. There is a distinction between the Internet and—” here he heavily emphasized the letters, “—I. R. L. And we are here, I. R. L. The Internet denies us the opportunity to decide what’s a masquerade and what is hidden.”
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JaysonAych posted:who would believe this man, this joke of a man, this man who could not outwit a used tea bag, to be in a position where he might run the biggest drug marketplace on the internet? who? only a yoghurt. this man is not guilty of narcotics trafficking, he is only guilty of being ross ulbricht. that is his crime; it is also his punishment
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Dratel explained the Silk Road notes found in Ulbricht’s bedroom trashcan as having been dictated to him over the phone, perhaps by whoever was framing him.
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jre posted:http://www.synereo.com lol sweet ten year old movie reference anderson
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Linguica posted:Dratel explained the Silk Road notes found in Ulbricht’s bedroom trashcan as having been dictated to him over the phone, perhaps by whoever was framing him. did he explain it as neuro-linguistic programming overriding ulbricht's wetware, causing him to write those notes and throw them away with no memory of doing so? the perfect crime.
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Linguica posted:Dratel explained the Silk Road notes found in Ulbricht’s bedroom trashcan as having been dictated to him over the phone, perhaps by whoever was framing him. wait really?
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Crust First posted:did he explain it as neuro-linguistic programming overriding ulbricht's wetware, causing him to write those notes and throw them away with no memory of doing so? the perfect crime. The Butturian Candidate
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Dratel pointed out that very few of the characters introduced via chat logs and forum screenshots ever took the witness stand. (The two exceptions would be Jared Der-Yeghiayan, who was undercover as Silk Road moderator “cirrus” for months, and Ross Ulbricht’s friend Richard Bates). Of the rest, Dratel said, “You have no evidence that they are different people. Where is the proof that they are separate people? Where are the people came up to witness stand to say, ‘That was me,’ ‘That was me,’ ‘That was me’?”
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Feb 4, 2015 01:13
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does the prosecution go first with their closing statement, or the defense? because i would have loved to see the prosecution's response to the "but how can you really know anything, maaaan?" defense
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Feb 4, 2015 01:14
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the defense can call witnesses right? why is he crying about certain people not getting brought forward?
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Boxturret posted:the defense can call witnesses right? why is he crying about certain people not getting brought forward? here you go http://ia600603.us.archive.org/21/items/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824.173.0.pdf
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Feb 4, 2015 01:17
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he tried to bring in bitcoin jesus last minute with a "it's for reasons" explanation and the judge did not like that, at all
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Boxturret posted:the defense can call witnesses right? why is he crying about certain people not getting brought forward? the judge shot down their expert witnesses because they were just butt nutters my phone tried to correct expert to sperg for some reason and I think that would have been ok
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JaysonAych posted:who would believe this man, this joke of a man, this man who could not outwit a used tea bag, to be in a position where he might run the biggest drug marketplace on the internet? who? only a yoghurt. this man is not guilty of narcotics trafficking, he is only guilty of being ross ulbricht. that is his crime; it is also his punishment
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i know i read that thing and loved every word but these mysterious people weren't the ones they called. if they cared so much about them and proving that they weren't all mark karpeles they should have said something
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that opinion was funny, but holy hell I would have loved to see aanton have to do a crossx where he can't just block the other person for saying facts he dislikes
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Boxturret posted:i know i read that thing and loved every word but these mysterious people weren't the ones they called. if they cared so much about them and proving that they weren't all mark karpeles they should have said something The prosecution was going to bring "inigo" as a witness but backed out (probably due to Dratel springing the "you don't really know if Ross is DPR" defense)
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Literally The Worst posted:the judge shot down their expert witnesses because they were just butt nutters Well mostly because Dratel was about 2 weeks late in mentioning he wanted them, and when he did, he didn't give sufficient info on who they were and why they were relevant.
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Feb 4, 2015 01:31
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surebet posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEdEr8CfF8o Ross Ulbricht added 1 video to for later 2 years ago How to Get Away with Stealing i like this one
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Powershift posted:that's still doing stuff too. The FTC posted:K. Defendants’ 29th Defense Is Legally Indefensible 
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Feb 4, 2015 01:39
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i really really like that defense though. "your honor, we are only scamming and deceiving our customers because it's the only way we can make money, so you have to continue to let us do so."
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jre posted:http://www.synereo.com "You can't keep child porn off a distributed network any more than you can keep ISIS off diaspora." I actively hope Synereo crashes and burns as hard as loving possible, because that is a legitimately horrifying response fade5 fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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AlbieQuirky posted:It's interesting to see where Dratel's reputation might actually have come from. After all the procedural fuckups, he impresses people with his skill at closing arguments? Not what I was expecting, necessarily. he graduated at the top of his class from Boston Legal University.
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Feb 4, 2015 01:49
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i wouldn't trust these doofbags to paint my garden shed, they look like they'd demand payment in advance, smoke weed all day in my back yard and then steal my lawnmower.
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Heresiarch posted:does the prosecution go first with their closing statement, or the defense? because i would have loved to see the prosecution's response to the "but how can you really know anything, maaaan?" defense Prosecutor Serrin Turner told the jury not to be swayed by the defense’s frame-job theory. “There were no little elves that put that evidence on [Ulbricht’s] computer,” he said. Given that the defense has already conceded that Ulbricht created the Silk Road, prosecutors’ arguments focused instead on the duration of his ownership, trying to show that only one Dread Pirate Roberts ever controlled the site. Turner pointed to chat logs in which Ulbricht privately discussed using his Dread Pirate Roberts pseudonym to create the illusion of a “rotating command,” and suggested that the defense’s story that Ulbricht had given up the site was a similar trick. “The defendant is dusting off the Dread Pirate Roberts play and trying it one last time–on you, ladies and gentlemen,” Turner said. and that was before the defense's closing argument. they got to respond: In its rebuttal, the prosecution responded by reminding the jury one last time that Ulbricht was caught—IRL, not online—in a San Francisco public library, with his laptop logged into the Dread Pirate Roberts’ account on the Silk Road. “The defendant cannot escape the fact that he was caught with his fingers on the keyboard. He was caught redhanded,” said prosecutor Timothy Howard, who delivered the rebuttal. He called Dratel’s defense a “desperate attempt to create a smoke screen.” “Don’t let the defendant insult your intelligence,” Howard added in his final address to the jury. Look at the evidence, he said, “and you’ll see the defendant’s wild conspiracy theories don’t hold water.”
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text editor posted:yeah this is real fuckin believable haha, the number, $18M is the current-prices thing. If you look at when it was seized, they talked about how it was over $100M
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fade5 posted:Reminder that one of those dudes is Erispa, and when Erispa was asked how Synereo would deal with Child Pornography: none of those guys are eripsa he's the fifth team member who isn't on that list this is eripsa  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=827782.msg9249243 OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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im also pretty sure one of the other dudes is a goon as well
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ayn rand hand job posted:none of those guys are eripsa  I still hope Synereo crashes and burns, and since it's related to bitcoin, it will
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did anyone post this yet? http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-elite-meet-secret-island-bilderberg-style-retreat/ quote:An unnamed Caribbean island is set to serve as the venue for a secretive, closed-door gathering of elite bitcoin CEOs and luminaries this weekend.
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joke thread on bct has new contentquote:One evening the bitcoin blockchain came to a halt, it turns out Chuck Norris had mined all the remaining bitcoins, and the difficulty was larger than Graham's number. quote:Q: Why is there no gold at the end of the rainbow? quote:lol bitcoin its orange . quote:Why did the bitcoin cross the road? quote:
quote:Knock Knock. quote:How many Bitcoins does it take to screw the banking system? quote:Jack and jill went up a hill, both with half a bitcoin. quote:Schrodinger's cat knows your private key. Maybe. quote:How do you make enough time for all the work and play with your computer? quote:Why did the Bitcoin cross the silkroad? quote:Is that an Antminer in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me. quote:another good one: quote:A Bitcoiner jumps into a cab...
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shadok posted:he graduated at the top of his class from Boston Legal University. When Ross hired Dratel, there was a certain amount of "Oo, this guy's a big deal, look out, Feds" in the media, and today was the first time in the whole trial I saw any praise for him from journalists.
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As a Millennial I posted:Prosecutor Serrin Turner told the jury not to be swayed by the defense’s frame-job theory. “There were no little elves that put that evidence on [Ulbricht’s] computer,” he said. not as scathing as i would have like but i suppose he had to portray the prosecution as the sane choice compared to the defense's bizarro-world theories. still a good response, concentrating on the evidence. i'm less worried about the verdict now although the fact that some news site used "IRL" in an article made me twitch for a moment
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lol, that secret bitcoin retreat is being run by a certain bruce fenton. someone on bitcointalk noticed that he was also behind http://www.fdvt.com/quote:FDVT Corp. lol
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"The event is openly exclusive, and as such, its official website cautions that only 50 members of the ecosystem will attend." the article is clearly ambiguous.
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