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Now this dashing gentleman looks proper fast. Too bad we'll never know who this mystery man is so we can give him a seat in F1.
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CratSock posted:Now this dashing gentleman looks proper fast. Too bad we'll never know who this mystery man is so we can give him a seat in F1. 
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Feb 7, 2015 04:56
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two mates ghost riding 
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El Hefe posted:two mates ghost riding 
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Wirth1000 posted:The single most obnoxious poo poo about F1 fans are the whole 'Let them race! Save the teams! Support HRT/Marussia/Caterham/Stefan GP!!!!!!!' then during the season it's all "lol i totally forgot they even exist why do they even bother" As a newbie, what is the best thing about more teams, if half of them blow? Wouldn't the races be more competitive with fewer teams all having similar bankrolls? I couldn't figure out what the real value of those back-marker teams were (apart from Maldonado setting people on fire) but the (sky) announce team kept voicing that "let them race" philosophy.
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Feb 7, 2015 06:54
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Because mid-pack races are cool and good. Also gives a chance for good drivers to shine if they can't get a top ride.
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keevo posted:Because mid-pack races are cool and good. Also gives a chance for good drivers to shine if they can't get a top ride. Backmarkers. Not mid-pack/midfield teams which are competitive enough to actually race against each other. The issue is backmarkers in such shambles that they literally bring nothing to the show except the 10 seconds of footage showing them pulling off on to the grass due to some random mechanical failure or maybe they just ran out of money and can't afford the running costs to see the race out. Hell, sometimes you just get a one line quip from a commentator that, I don't know, Baumgartner just retired like 20 minutes ago and they just noticed now.
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Feb 7, 2015 07:15
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Seriously, just allow proper B teams, customer cars and all.
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keevo posted:Because mid-pack races are cool and good. Also gives a chance for good drivers to shine if they can't get a top ride. Agreed on the mid-pack, it's the guys who got double lapped by HAM/ROS all year and never seemed to do anything terribly compelling. At least the mid pack races are for points.
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Lucasar posted:-Ricciardo: How can you not like this guy? My wife agrees he is the most likable.. You're definitely new to F1 aren't you
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Wirth1000 posted:You know what's doing great? WEC. Their problem isn't a lack of teams it's actually a lack of space to accomdoate all the teams coming in and wanting to join!!!!! WEC is 4 (really 5) classes. If I add up the field of F1, GP2, GP3 and Euro F3 they've got more so WEC sucks. Lucasar posted:As a newbie, what is the best thing about more teams, if half of them blow? Wouldn't the races be more competitive with fewer teams all having similar bankrolls? I couldn't figure out what the real value of those back-marker teams were (apart from Maldonado setting people on fire) but the (sky) announce team kept voicing that "let them race" philosophy. If you let Marussia go, the practical difference between Sauber 2015 and Marussia 2014 will be zero. So Sauber goes under. Then STR. Then Lotus... "We don't need you" is a very quick way to have no cars at all.
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Feb 7, 2015 10:57
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STR can't go under, they are Red Bull B.
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Feb 7, 2015 11:17
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Wirth1000 posted:Backmarkers.
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Earlier, Ferrari dissed Alonso; now Massa is dissing Ferrari! http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/news-207238-massa-bei-ferrari-gab-es-viele-leere-worte/ "Everything I have seen at Williams is real. At this time of the year you hear a lot of claims like 'this year's car is fantastic' or 'we did a great job'. I heard that a lot at Ferrari but it wasn't true. That's the difference between [Williams] and Ferrari."
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Riso posted:Earlier, Ferrari dissed Alonso; now Massa is dissing Ferrari! He's no longer a honorary italian.
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really the issue is that we replaced a lot of backmarkers/mid-pack teams with auto manufacturers who really don't give a gently caress about the sport, and when they inevitably got bored and left we all acted like the sky was falling (even though historically ferrari has been the only manufacturer team in most years) and tried to replace them quickly with a budget cap, i.e. a stupid idea, and approved four teams who never had any hope of surviving in the long term. yeah, there are separate issues with force india (corrupt, stupid owners), caterham (corrupt, stupid owners), marussia (corrupt, stupid owners), hrt (who even owned that team), usf1 (lmao), and sauber (have literally always been poor), but they are clearly temporary and should be corrected in the long run. even if haas' plan to operate out of the US results in him producing a poo poo car, he's still a far more capable, competent, and well-funded businessman than anyone involved in the four teams that recently collapsed.
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Riso posted:STR can't go under, they are Red Bull B. Who I still think will be killed the second the parent team need to run 3 cars. But both Red Bulls can go under in a second, they're there at the whim of a merketing department that can and has killed sports teams with gently caress all notice before. Ask the Nascar Red Bull guys. This is actually the problem F1 has. They have precisely 3 teams that aren't only in F1 because of one mad rich nutter or one marketing department and it's not like Sauber are especially solid right now. Manor would be a 4th. We need that 4th.
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dudley is right, F1 needs teams that are F1 teams and nothing else
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be nice wicka posted:really the issue is that we replaced a lot of backmarkers/mid-pack teams with auto manufacturers who really don't give a gently caress about the sport, and when they inevitably got bored and left we all acted like the sky was falling (even though historically ferrari has been the only manufacturer team in most years) and tried to replace them quickly with a budget cap, i.e. a stupid idea, and approved four teams who never had any hope of surviving in the long term. yeah, there are separate issues with force india (corrupt, stupid owners), caterham (corrupt, stupid owners), marussia (corrupt, stupid owners), hrt (who even owned that team), usf1 (lmao), and sauber (have literally always been poor), but they are clearly temporary and should be corrected in the long run. even if haas' plan to operate out of the US results in him producing a poo poo car, he's still a far more capable, competent, and well-funded businessman than anyone involved in the four teams that recently collapsed. FI is not a new team, they are Jordan.
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Riso posted:FI is not a new team, they are Jordan. They are Jordan run by someone more incompetent than Eddie Jordan
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NtotheTC posted:They are Jordan run by someone more incompetent than Eddie Jordan You know things are hosed when TWO INDIAN BILLIONAIRES are unable to pay 80m/year to fund an F1 team.
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Riso posted:STR can't go under, they are Red Bull B. That team was for sale just five years ago. It could easily happen again. No buyer and it'll close. Edit: STR's reversal of fortunes coincided with RBR winning things, prior to that they were a little too close to the parent team in performance, and took the first win. Sulman fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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NtotheTC posted:They are Jordan run by someone more incompetent than Eddie Jordan Eddie had lots of flash but he was very sensible with the team's money.
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Riso posted:You know things are hosed when TWO INDIAN BILLIONAIRES are unable to pay 80m/year to fund an F1 team. It's easy to be a billionaire if you run an airline without paying your suppliers, employees and taxes
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Lucasar posted:Agreed on the mid-pack, it's the guys who got double lapped by HAM/ROS all year and never seemed to do anything terribly compelling. At least the mid pack races are for points. I don't want 16 car grids.
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Unless Red Bull continues to have poo poo seasons, I doubt they are going to close up shop any time soon. They probably close teams in series where it's harder to cheat.
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Feb 7, 2015 15:55
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poo poo RB season: only 2nd in WCC.
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Riso posted:poo poo RB season: only 2nd in WCC. They probably had the best chassis, tbh.
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Riso posted:You know things are hosed when TWO INDIAN BILLIONAIRES are unable to pay 80m/year to fund an F1 team. Big difference between can't and won't.
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Xenoid posted:Big difference between can't and won't. And also a big difference between billionaire and "billionaire."
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Michael Schumacher and Ralf Schumacher
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HJB posted:You're definitely new to F1 aren't you Is he a turd off track? We liked his dopey smile and continually outperforming his teammate despite not being touted as the favourite.
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Gmaz posted:What good would the 3rd fast car bring? They couldn't even race each other in most teams, that's true for 2 drivers it would be even worse for the 3rd one. I'd rather see a backmarker trundling around then see Ferrari no. 3 being 1 second behind Ferrari no. 2 for all of the race. I agree, team orders often mean boring racing, we've just been lucky with RBR, Merc and mclaren recently, but in the recent past it meant boring racing. More teams are better, I loved the resurgence of williams, lotus/renault a couple of years ago, and even RB were brought up from the shambles of jaguar/stewart. If FOM spread more money around or the budget caps worked, then we're not stuck with manufacturers like ferrari or mercedes, or even what rb have become. I like the fact that mid pack teams such as sauber or jordan/FI exist because in some recent years they have produced good cars for certain tracks. e: it grows talent not just for drivers, but for developers/engineers/mechanics. Worst F1 would be a series just with ferrari, mclaren, rb, mercedes competing. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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Lucasar posted:Is he a turd off track? We liked his dopey smile and continually outperforming his teammate despite not being touted as the favourite. He's awful. He's like a living meme that Red Bull have produced in a factory. The public grew tired of Vettelbot so they retired that and replaced it with something for the Instagram-generation. "Look it's smiling all the time! Cool!" "Ha ha! It calls itself the Honey Badger! That's funny lol"
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Dudley posted:Ask the Nascar Red Bull guys. NASCAR is the one thing a Red Bull team managed to be loving godawful at though.
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Red Bull being poo poo at NASCAR was one of the few bright spots of recent NASCAR history.
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I like Ricciardo you guys are mean.
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Ricciardo beat the poo poo out of The Fraud. What's there not to like?
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Absurd as it sounds especially in this thread, I think Brainwrong may be trolling. Ricky D is clearly the best F1 driver.
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Bold prediction: Everyone here will hate Ricky D within 12 months.
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