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dreesemonkey posted:I stand by my recommendation of incorporating super stadium trucks to the race weekend. Possibly getting rid of the F1 cars all together.
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gently caress it. Add Fan Boost like Formula E has. Cuz that poo poo is hilarious every time it gets used. I'm pretty sure like 50% of the time its been used it's resulted in some sort of accident.
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Feb 11, 2015 22:20
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Tsaedje posted:The Sunday morning F1 dad race doesn't seem as fun since the passing of John Button Would still be pretty hilarious to watch Anthony Hamilton do his best Crashtor impression.
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Feb 11, 2015 22:22
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Speed Arrows guys, speed arrows.
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Feb 11, 2015 22:23
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How do I root for Daniel Rickyardo and against Red Bull at the same time?
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Feb 11, 2015 22:38
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keevo posted:How do I root for Daniel Rickyardo and against Red Bull at the same time? The worst part of redbull drives a red car now. That's a plus?
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Feb 11, 2015 22:44
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Norns posted:gently caress it. Add Fan Boost like Formula E has. Cuz that poo poo is hilarious every time it gets used. I'm pretty sure like 50% of the time its been used it's resulted in some sort of accident. To be fair, most things the drivers do in Formula E result in an accident
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Feb 11, 2015 23:07
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Anderson's suggestion there is pretty dumb but it's also an almost carbon copy of how GP2 currently works.
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Feb 12, 2015 00:24
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Helicon One posted:Anderson's suggestion there is pretty dumb but it's also an almost carbon copy of how GP2 currently works. GP2 doesn't work. It's supposed to be an F1 feeder series, so its job is to prepare drivers for F1, right? But no driver who has graduated from GP2 has really looked ready for F1 since Sergio Perez, four years ago. Romain Grosjean very obviously had to learn how to race in F1, since he'd not done so in GP2. GP2 is a playground for rich drivers with lots of backing, who will go on to be pay drivers in F1. Drivers with talent tend to race in cheaper series, or get promoted directly from F3/GP3.
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Feb 12, 2015 00:37
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FR3.5 has almost entirely supplanted GP2 IMO.
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Feb 12, 2015 00:51
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dreesemonkey posted:I stand by my recommendation of incorporating super stadium trucks to the race weekend. Possibly getting rid of the F1 cars all together. That actually looks like good racing. Trucks are sliding/rolling all over the place, ramming each other. Kinda like Nascar but less boring.
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Feb 12, 2015 00:55
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George Zimmer posted:FR3.5 has almost entirely supplanted GP2 IMO. Both have actually done a decent job. GP2 does produce good drivers.
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Feb 12, 2015 01:21
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Human Grand Prix posted:Both have actually done a decent job. GP2 does produce good drivers. Ehh I kinda feel like FR3.5 is where teams are really looking for talent now though. IIRC Nasr is the only rookie who will be from GP2 this season. Sainz Jr. Is from 3.5, and Verstappen from F3. Mehri will likely get a seat next year, and Jaafar will likely be on the grid sometime soon as well. Can't really pinpoint anyone in GP2, but I admittedly don't follow it as much. EDIT : swap Jaafar with Gasly George Zimmer fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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Feb 12, 2015 01:30
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I'm not saying there aren't any good drivers in GP2, just that I see more rookies coming from FR3.5 and other series.
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Feb 12, 2015 01:51
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Norns posted:The worst part of redbull drives a red car now. That's a plus? Christian Horner and Helmut Marko are far more despicable than Our Sebby.
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Feb 12, 2015 01:51
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Barnsy posted:That actually looks like good racing. Trucks are sliding/rolling all over the place, ramming each other. Kinda like Nascar but less boring. It's way better when they're on dirt. I really hadn't paid the series much attention at this point, but how can you not love this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aJr8rFuCGA Watching those huge V8's pile on the power through those sweeping corners is a thing of beauty
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RIP F1 Rejects. Edit: Speaking of which it's Roberto Moreno's birthday. Human Grand Prix fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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Feb 12, 2015 03:38
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Hey guys Nico is already playing mind games on Lewis. https://www.facebook.com/nicorosberg/photos/a.10150122633674874.318801.11459059873/10153137926729874/?type=1&theater Sebastian Vettel posted:Christian Horner and Helmut Marko are far more despicable than Our Sebby. 
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Human Grand Prix posted:Speed Arrows guys, speed arrows. Mario Kart style? I'm on board. Make them like those flat treadmills at airports mixed with some sort of induction system to recharge kers mid lap. Boom. Sorted.
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Feb 12, 2015 05:14
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George Zimmer posted:Ehh I kinda feel like FR3.5 is where teams are really looking for talent now though. IIRC Nasr is the only rookie who will be from GP2 this season. Sainz Jr. Is from 3.5, and Verstappen from F3. Mehri will likely get a seat next year, and Jaafar will likely be on the grid sometime soon as well. Can't really pinpoint anyone in GP2, but I admittedly don't follow it as much. I feel that F1 needs to go the way of MotoGP. There are just too many seeder series for F1, it's very hard to find rookies and follow them as they step up through series. It's great in MotoGP to follow riders from Moto3 all the way to MotoGP. Might also reduce the number of pay drivers and allow more talent to shine.
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Human Grand Prix posted:RIP F1 Rejects. Car Sport Rejects @f1rejects Fan site no longer paying tribute to the Heroic Failures of a popular form of motorsport. Not affiliated or endorsed in any way by Formula 1. Did F1 shut them down? Crazy. Oh, they're not shutting down forever, looks like they are just relaunching a new name: GP Rejects @gprejects Reincarnating the Reject spirit! We are not affiliated to anything whatsoever. Especially you, FOM. #GPRLaunch Uncle Jam fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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People were mentioning FR3.5 - this is what happens when you combine an FR3.5 engine with someone who has the skills to build their own rally car from scratch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmwuKu0ujAY
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Uncle Jam posted:Car Sport Rejects Well the site had been down for a while, and was just a forum for some time. Hope they relaunch soon/well, F1Rejects was great, minus the tiny green-on-black text.
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Helicon One posted:Anderson's suggestion there is pretty dumb but it's also an almost carbon copy of how GP2 currently works. Yeah, but that's ok for support series. Reversing the grid forces even the quick guys to learn to overtake, it's forcing the testing of all the skills of being a race driver, as a support series should.
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PoopSok posted:It's way better when they're on dirt. I really hadn't paid the series much attention at this point, but how can you not love this? This is way more fun to watch than F1, for me F1 is half driver/team drama and hours of engineering to gain hundredths of a second on the track. Lower formula stuff and off-road is just more fun. Also, the RC version of these short course trucks are way fun (but don't buy Traxxas trucks, buy HPI :P) Barnsy posted:I feel that F1 needs to go the way of MotoGP. There are just too many seeder series for F1, it's very hard to find rookies and follow them as they step up through series. It's great in MotoGP to follow riders from Moto3 all the way to MotoGP. Might also reduce the number of pay drivers and allow more talent to shine. Yup, for sure! Definitely agree with this.
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Just spotted on the BBC F1 gossip columnquote:The migration of F1 broadcasts from free-to-air to pay channels in many countries is being blamed for global viewing figures slipping from 600m in 2008 to 425m in 2014. (Wall Street Journal) ..a 30% loss is pretty extreme.
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At least it's not as extreme as the TV rights for Premiere League football - £10mil PER GAME going to the Football Association, I have no idea how the broadcasters will even make money at that price. And the FA has the same problems with lower league teams that FOM does with distributing money to lower teams, but it's multiplied by dozens (hundreds?) of small teams.
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Ron Dennis : "Title sponsors are history" http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117663/dennis-f1-title-sponsors-are-history Yes. I completely agree and I suspect Inifniti Red Bull Racing, Sahara Force India, Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro, Martini Williams Racing and Mercedes AMG Petronas do as well.
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I can't get a girlfriend, therefore girlfriends don't exist. QED.
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Dudley posted:Ron Dennis : "Title sponsors are history" sahara is a co-owner, not a title sponsor. marlboro is not a relevant example to anyone and no one will ever get that deal ever again. the other three pay less money than mobil. i'm not sure what your point is unless it was to be as wrong as possible.
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enri posted:..a 30% loss is pretty extreme. I just don't get how any consumer sport could be as consumer un-friendly as F1 tries to be.
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like, martini came to mclaren and offered to pay less than the team on the back of the wing mirrors for full TITLE sponsorship, in what world is ron wrong
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be nice wicka posted:sahara is a co-owner, not a title sponsor. marlboro is not a relevant example to anyone and no one will ever get that deal ever again. the other three pay less money than mobil. i'm not sure what your point is unless it was to be as wrong as possible. Doesn't matter what they pay, Ron is claiming title sponsors are dead what he actually means is he can't get one that'll pay what he laughably considers he's worth.
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Dudley posted:Doesn't matter what they pay yes it does title sponsors get to be title sponsors because they pay more than the other sponsors if no one is willing to pay more than the other sponsors then the concept of a title sponsor is literally nonexistent. you're just picking one of your sponsors to favor more than the others for no reason. pretend that it isn't ron dennis saying this and ask yourself if you'd still be such an unbelievably obtuse prick about it
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i say again...be nice wicka posted:like, martini came to mclaren and offered to pay less than the team on the back of the wing mirrors for full TITLE sponsorship, in what world is ron wrong how can you have a title sponsor who pays HALF of what your other main sponsors pay. and how can you claim that mclaren's position is laughable when other companies are willing to pay them more than rival teams' title sponsors for less prominent branding?
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I bet whatever Infiniti is paying would be acceptable for him. I'm confused why you're white knighting McLaren for absolutely no reason other than "Wicka hasn't been wicka for a while".
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Dudley posted:I bet whatever Infiniti is paying would be acceptable for him. i'm not white knighting anyone. i'm curious why you're criticizing his statement when you'd consider it obviously true if anyone else said it, considering that it is obviously and provably true. i doubt infiniti is paying poo poo considering they're basically the same company as renault.
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enri posted:Just spotted on the BBC F1 gossip column Well, no poo poo. Who didn't foresee this? I sometimes wonder what planet some of these people are on. I don't even have any business savvy and I can tell that going pay-tv is going to cost a shitload of eyes.
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