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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Would that make Mary Jo Mark Karpeles?

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MORE CURLY FRIES
Apr 8, 2004

he came back to fix the ship at the start of season 10

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

this is a really good book and it turns out spooks are some goony motherfuckers

sinekumquat
Jun 12, 2005

the most dangerous philosopher in the west
College Slice

http://www.naderlibrary.com/icouldtellyou.patches.htm

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Alan Smithee posted:

Would that make Mary Jo Mark Karpeles?

DPR is TV's Frank.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
I would be flabbergasted if the state department don't hold tax payer funded DND nights

sinekumquat
Jun 12, 2005

the most dangerous philosopher in the west
College Slice


quote:

Built by Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works, the Vindicator system was a highly classified project (rumored to be "more secret than the F-117A," the stealth fighter program) from the 1980s. This patch includes the Lockheed Advanced Development Projects skunk mascot wearing a helmet and scarf. The device emanating a lightning bolt is a laser. The patch depicts a laser anemometer optical air data system, which takes the place of conventional pitot-static probes on stealth or high-speed aircraft where physical protrusions are undesirable. The device is a velocity indicator (or, in aviation parlance, a v-indicator).

sinekumquat
Jun 12, 2005

the most dangerous philosopher in the west
College Slice


quote:

The Latin at the bottom of the patch translates as "Doing God's work with other people's money."

MORE CURLY FRIES
Apr 8, 2004


lol

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

sinekumquat
Jun 12, 2005

the most dangerous philosopher in the west
College Slice





the national reconnaissance office also directly trolls conspiracy theorists

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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:catstare:

this is going to be a big bunch of tl;dr but gently caress it the premise is so insane this warrants an effortpost

quote:

Bitcoin Created More Jobs Than the U.S. Gov't in 2014
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113486/bitcoin-created-more-jobs-than-the-us-govt-in-2014

quote:

Imagine you're the kind of person who wants to create jobs, but you don't have any wealth of your own from which to make payroll.1

So you systematically go from house to house in your neighborhood, demanding that all your neighbors cut you a check, or else. Most of them do, because you're a big, scary guy like that.

You then use the money you took to hire a handful of people to distribute fruit baskets back to the whole neighborhood.

Some would say that – though your method was sinister – you still created jobs.

But did you?

"[super posted:

1[/super]"]
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113363/how-to-get-a-job-in-bitcoin

insane "drop everything and get an entry level job without pay for bitcoin also here's a course andreas gives which will award you a diploma on the blockchain" thing

so the basic premise is that since taxes = theft any job created out of that tax revenue aren't actually jobs because freedom

quote:

If you think the thief of our story did, in fact, create jobs, you've fallen prey to one of the most persistent economic fallacies in history: the Broken Window Fallacy2.

The fallacy is that the spoils from destruction or theft are the equivalent of new wealth having been created. This, of course, isn't true.

What's really happened is that the pilfered neighbors now have less disposable income. They'll now be unable to support jobs in the fields where they would rather have spent their money – on a new car, computer, education, surgery, etc. The thief's fruit baskets come at the expense of all the other industries that would have been patronized otherwise.

(Because if the neighbors really wanted fruit baskets more than they wanted computers, education, or surgeries – well then, they would have just bought one themselves.)

Such is the nature of any “job” a government – including the U.S. State – claims to create. But Bitcoin? Bitcoin has created new wealth. Lots of it.

"[super posted:

2[/super]"]
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/broken-window-fallacy.asp

"The broken window fallacy was first expressed by the great French economist, Frederic Bastiat. Bastiat used the parable of a broken window to point out why destruction doesn't benefit the economy."

alright fine, you could argue the net economic impact of going to war (which is still a really loving complex equation, especially when you're mostly wrecking the other guy's stuff) can swing from positive to negative but how the gently caress is building a road destruction? Also, even if you somehow argue that it is via really weird edge cases, you'd be hard pressed to argue that overall no road > roads from a commercial point of vue

already this stinks of 14 year old economist

quote:

Jobs & Industries That Never Existed Before
Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies created an estimated :siren:250,0003 jobs during 2014:siren:. None of these positions existed before 2009, and this list is only partial:

Script and Multisig developers
Java cryptocurrency developers
Microtransaction engineers
UX/UI crypto designers of user-only security protocols
Bitcoin and cryptocurrency crowdfunding planners and consultants
Cryptocurrency journalists
Cryptocurrency traders
Cryptocurrency technical analysts
ASIC chip designers
Bitcoin gambling website operators
Mining pool administrators
Cryptocurrency escrow agents
Cryptocurrency Exchange-Traded Fund (ETF) operators
Bitcoin fraud detection consultants
Cryptocurrency ATM designers
Virtual currency exchange arbitrators
Federated open transactions’ server operators

No one's wealth was forcibly transferred away from them to create these jobs. They've all been funded as consumers' top choices in resource allocation. In other words, Bitcoin never broke a window.

"[super posted:

3[/super]"]
http://www.lazynews.tv/did-bitcoin-create-more-jobs-than-the-us-federal-government-did-in-2014/

"Given that $314 million were invested in various bitcoin related businesses in 2014, it is roughly estimated that these bitcoin investments have created more than 250,000 jobs during 2014 within various sectors related to cryptocurrencies."

look at all these existing fields suddenly made brand new because ... but with bitcoin

that whole list is just :allears:

also please ignore the public resources that were used to build bitcoin

finally, motherfucking laff at the source, which conveniently just states that there, 250k jobs created, because gently caress you

meanwhile, looking over the bls stats, there's a net gain of ~73k government jobs for 2014 (all government levels, seasonally adjusted, civilian only [incl. civilian dod people and such], CES9000000001) for a total of ~21.9m jobs

quote:

The Final Score
And so the ultimate tally for 2014 job creation is this: Bitcoin - 250,000; U.S. State - 0.

But we'd better stop the crazy growth of this cryptocurrency thing, and fast. Why? Because without staggering unemployment rates and stagnant economies, what will the poor politicians have to stump about?

SCOREBOARD!!

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Alan Smithee posted:

which one was bruce fenton?

Bruce Fenton is the one who had a "tech company" with a website that looked like some grandmother's Geocities page. He is super proud of his brief stint in the Navy and then his subsequent years of getting lucrative government contracts earmarked for veteran-owned companies.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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side note: even if 100% of the 314m$ in venture funding went to salaries, those 250k new workers will each earn... 1256$

like, yearly

I Greyhound
Apr 22, 2008

MusicKrew Dawn Patrol
Hack the BEANPOT!

quote:

A Bitcoin accepting Keurig built at HackBeanpot in the last two days. We tore apart a Keurig, put an Arduino Uno in it with a wifi shield, an IR sensor and some LEDs. We put it back together nicely and added a Bitpay integration. It now makes you a cup of coffee when you pay it in Bitcoin and place your mug in it. Users can also brew with a donated cup of coffee from below.


Beast of Bourbon
Sep 25, 2013

Pillbug
yeah i'd totally drink a drink out of something made by bitcoiners

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

I Greyhound posted:

Hack the BEANPOT!





i'd really say it makes you hot water when you pay it in bitcoin, since it appears you have to supply your own coffee

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

surebet posted:

how the gently caress is building a road destruction?

If the men with guns hadn't stolen my money via taxes, I would have used that money to buy ASIC miners, which would have.. also supported the economy.. so I don't get it.

Of coruse if the alternative to paying tax was that I would have invested my money in bitcoin which was then stolen, how do you spin that as good?

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
your error is assuming that there is any logic involved in this person's thought processes. it doesn't make any sense, full stop. it doesn't make any sense because it doesn't make any sense and trying to figure out the line of thought required to create this nonsense will just make your head hurt

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
next week we'll try to figure out where francis dec came up with his "worldwide computer god frankenstein controls" theories

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Buttcoin purse posted:

If the men with guns hadn't stolen my money via taxes, I would have used that money to buy ASIC miners, which would have.. also supported the economy.. so I don't get it.

Of coruse if the alternative to paying tax was that I would have invested my money in bitcoin which was then stolen, how do you spin that as good?

yeah but that's just squishing 2 (retarded) arguments together

fine, all taxation is theft and 100% of all civil servants are literally hitler, surely there's still at least one thing that once dude did right over the thousands of years of recorded gov't history

like, i don't know, the internet?

Twinty Zuleps
May 10, 2008

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
see the skull, the part of bone removed

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.

Heresiarch posted:

next week we'll try to figure out where francis dec came up with his "worldwide computer god frankenstein controls" theories

kosher bosher doctors performed surgery on him

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Heresiarch posted:

next week we'll try to figure out where francis dec came up with his "worldwide computer god frankenstein controls" theories

jesus
loving
christ
this is awesome






gently caress you metric system!

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

surebet posted:

jesus
loving
christ
this is awesome

did you just now discover francis dec?

Twinty Zuleps
May 10, 2008

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
i knew what it was from but i only ever listened to the recording one guy made of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOYrCHi7yjM

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
the men with guns broken windows crazy has a point but he doesn't really understand it.

that seems to be the norm with bitcoiners. hell, reddit in general. read the first ten pages of an "austrian economics" book from the 1940s, assume you understand the entire world

Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Feb 14, 2015

creatine
Jan 27, 2012




car with dc plates just drove by and their plates said "CRYPTO"

Jabberwocky
Jan 15, 2003

mommy's little monster

Pumpy Dumper posted:

car with dc plates just drove by and their plates said "CRYPTO"

What do you expect from a city that reelects crackheads? Although they do get screwed with the whole taxation without representation thing.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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quote:

Purse Opens Nakamoto's, San Francisco's Bitcoin-Only Retail Shop
http://www.coindesk.com/purse-opens-nakamotos-san-franciscos-bitcoin-retail-shop/

quote:

[–]scotty321 3 points 46 minutes ago
AWESOME!! Fantastic. Hope it does as well as I think it will.

so there's a new bitcoin :airquote: only :airquote: store opening in sf

quote:

Even so, customers using the Square credit and debit card payment method won’t enjoy Purse’s 10% bitcoin discount.

oops

anyhow, what's the business model?

quote:

“The goal for Nakamoto's is to demonstrate the advantage of using bitcoin to mainstream users. The store sells everything for 10% cheaper than Amazon, if paid in bitcoin.”

wait, purse.io, where did you hear about that before? oh yeah, the dudes selling gift cards paid with stolen credit cards

any way to make this more shady? sure!

http://cappstreetcrap.tumblr.com/post/99282680621/mission-street-co-working-space-forced-to-shut

tl;dr this:

quote:

20Mission is a 41 room community in San Francisco for art and technology creators in the heart of the Mission District. The space is composed of individual rooms and multiple areas in which you will have additional access to, such as the common room (with couches for your inner coder) and the kitchen (for your inner foodie).

Collaboration occurs daily between our residents. With in-house counsel, engineers, graphic designers, photographers, videographers, brand consultants, and well-connected Silicon Valley entrepreneurs among our permanent residents, you have every resource at your fingertips.

was a high-density dwelling in a commercial zoned building, so they got told to gently caress off, tried to *wink* *wink* open an art gallery on the first floor to prove that they were a legit commercial operation that just happens to need 40 people on-site 24/7 because, got shut down and are now trying the same gambit again but with an actual store that says it won't take your actualmoney but really, will, providing a service where you may or may not be financing identity theft

bad ideas... but with bitcoin!!

e: oh yeah, the store actually pre-orders and dropships your stuff, which adds another layer to the bullshit iceberg

surebet fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Feb 14, 2015

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Jabberwocky posted:

What do you expect from a city that reelects crackheads? Although they do get screwed with the whole taxation without representation thing.

in our defense, he is now dead. (and technically only one ward continually reelected him)

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Pumpy Dumper posted:

car with dc plates just drove by and their plates said "CRYPTO"

let's give them the benefit of the doubt, they might just be from the nsa

Beast of Bourbon
Sep 25, 2013

Pillbug
i had some friends that lived at 20 mission. it was awful. like super awful. i think i posted about it before. the entrance and first room looks nice and updated and cool and chic, and then you go upstairs and there are holes in the ceiling and each room is just a dorm room with single ply drywall between rooms and a full size bed takes up 70% of the floor space.

Beast of Bourbon
Sep 25, 2013

Pillbug
all for only $1500/month. shared co-ed bathrooms (that didn't have real doors, just iron gate kind of doors on them) and also a giant shared kitchen that looked like it was 40 years old and right out of a college flop house.

Rick Ross Ulbricht
Feb 3, 2010

put yourself in the shoes of a prosecutor trying to build a case against you. what evidence could they pin on you? there is nothing on your laptop for them to use, if you obscure your bitcoins propperly, there is no way for them to trace them back to me.

Heresiarch posted:

did you just now discover francis dec?

well i sure just did, this is great

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Beast of Bourbon posted:

i had some friends that lived at 20 mission. it was awful. like super awful. i think i posted about it before. the entrance and first room looks nice and updated and cool and chic, and then you go upstairs and there are holes in the ceiling and each room is just a dorm room with single ply drywall between rooms and a full size bed takes up 70% of the floor space.

jfc that place sounds like poo poo

quote:

In the Mission, a co-living space dubbed 20Mission at 3491 20th St. has three orders of abatement generated from outstanding notices of violation, totaling about $6,700 in fees owed to The City. Among the dozen violations, documented in the spring, was that an air well on the second floor was being used as a habitable space and packed with tables, chairs, a hammock, bottles, sound system and large propane grill.

A reinspection in September by housing inspector Bobbi Lopez revealed that the building still lacked cover plates for outlets and light switches and the gas stove needed to be replaced with electrical cooking appliances, among other violations.

helloooooo death trap

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Rick Ross Ulbricht posted:

well i sure just did, this is great

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Rick Ross Ulbricht posted:

well i sure just did, this is great

Meat Beat Agent
Aug 5, 2007

felonious assault with a sproinging boner

univbee posted:

Now keep in mind Mike can't control
Where the value begins or ends (la-la-la)
Because he used those AMD parts
To make his libertarian friends.

(Bitcoin Roll Call)
Mt. Gox! (I'm dead)
Satoshi (I'm hiding)
Ross Ulbricht! (I'm in jail)
Maaaaaaaaaaaark

If you're wondering how he pays for food
and other economic facts
Just repeat to yourself it's decentralized
I should really just relax

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TVarmy
Sep 11, 2011

like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value

gschmidl posted:

DPR is TV's Frank.

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