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 Since all episodes will be released simultaneously, no spoiler tags are necessary in here. Read at your own risk! Bosch, an original TV series for Amazon Prime based on Michael Connelly's 19 books about Los Angeles Police Department Detective Harry Bosch, premieres Friday. The good news is when Connelly isn't playing poker with Richard Castle, he is also serving as an Executive Producer and Writer for the series., so hopefully the series will stay pretty true to the characters. Season one will take elements from three books in the series, City of Bones, The Concrete Blonde and Echo Park. Connelly has said City of Bones will be the backbone of the first season with parts from the other two books. Things have been tweaked a bit from the books with Bosch being a bit younger and a vet of the Persian Gulf War instead of Vietnam. The first episode is a substantial rebuild of the Pilot, so you shouldn't skip it even if you saw the pilot. It looks to have a strong cast and initial reviews have been positive. Starring:  Titus Welliver as Hieronymus "Harry" Bosch.  Jamie Hector as Bosch's partner, Jerry Edgar.  Lance Reddick as Deputy Chief Irvin Irving.  Amy Aquino as Lieutenant Grace Billets. and  Annie Wersching as Julie Brasher.
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Feb 13, 2015 04:01
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About halfway through and it's been really good. If you've read the books it's interesting to see them weave the different stories together. Took me a bit to realize the one cop was Mac's dad from It's Always Sunny.
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Feb 14, 2015 06:44
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Feb 14, 2015 08:25
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Good, not great television. Welliver is good, Hector and Redick too. If this show got a lot more money so they could land better actors for the bit parts, increase the quality of the sets (and just the production in general), and more properly edit scenes together so it doesn't feel so loose they would be cooking with crisco. I enjoyed it, hoping the second season is better.
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Feb 14, 2015 19:29
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Not enough lingering shots of Bosch obsessively rearranging murder books with jazz in the background as he mumbles brooding off hand remarks about The City and The Mission, IMO. edit: Bosch Season One: Every shitpost counts or no post counts. Berke Negri fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Feb 15, 2015 |
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Feb 15, 2015 02:51
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Just finished it and it was good, not great. They glossed over things like why Pounds hates Bosch, they even took you to the bar with Billets asking Bosch why Pounds hated him, and it was a 10 second explanation about nothing. Throwing the Billets and Kiz lesbian couple thing in there for really no reason. (Billets did mention she was seeing someone on the force, which was perhaps why she was so hard on Bosch about his relationship.) I'm a huge fan of the books, I just think they could have done more with it really.
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Feb 15, 2015 04:40
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The introspection is what really makes the books and that's kind of lacking from the series. I too found it to be good, not great. Without being able to witness how Bosch is processing a case in his mind kind of robs a lot from the character. He's also kind of toned down a lot, and much less of a kind of crazy obsessive rear end in a top hat. There's better ways to do Bosch if you don't have that inner monologue available: A Darkness More Than Night, one of the Terry McCaleb novels, does this pretty well where Bosch is not the protagonist but still features prominently in the story and he's so weird the main character suspects him as a serial killer. So without all this you kind of had a stripped down feel of the series. I liked it a lot but as a big fan I kept asking myself if I wasn't catching all the little references or the characters (Pounds is really neglected and it takes half the show for Irving to really stand out) if I'd be getting as much out of it.
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Feb 15, 2015 07:02
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I really don't like the change of bosch from vietnam draftee (He was a draftee, right?) to a hooah special forces man who reupped after 9/11. It feels kinda cheap.
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Feb 16, 2015 04:42
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He enlisted at 17 if I remember right. I think they had to go this way for cost reasons, probably cheaper to shoot everything if it's present day compared to rolling everything back to the 90's.
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Feb 16, 2015 04:54
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Phobeste posted:I really don't like the change of bosch from vietnam draftee (He was a draftee, right?) to a hooah special forces man who reupped after 9/11. It feels kinda cheap. He signed up for it to get away from his crappy childhood ASAP but yeah he wasn't really a hooah kind of guy over it. I think him reupping is just so they can work in the tunnel rat background which wouldn't be that possible (I believe) had he just served in the Gulf War. I think it would have been a lot more interesting a show as a period piece set in the early 1990s but I can understand why that wasn't an easy sell or cheap to do. I think they did a good enough job with having Bosch be younger, and if they'd stuck with the current books you'd have to have Bosch running around in his early sixties and even that is increasingly getting implausible even in the books.
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Feb 16, 2015 06:31
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Does anyone else think the first episode is a little tone deaf given current events? We're somehow lead to believe that it's a big deal that Bosch shot and killed someone who actually had a gun when cops mow down unarmed black people (sometimes even children) on an almost weekly basis and face zero consequences. I like the actors a lot and I want to stick with it but that particular part of the plot really chafes at me. e: Also I keep comparing any show with cops in it to The Wire, which really doesn't help matters. And in this case is at least understandable, given the presence of both Lance Reddick and Jamie Hector.
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Feb 16, 2015 06:52
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I finished the series this weekend, and I liked it a lot. It didn't do a lot of the stuff I expected it to do, such as having the daughter be kidnapped, the partner be killed, etc... so I have to give it props for that. I was surprised that the serial killer arc ended in the penultimate episode, the last episode was a nice wrap up, but didn't have a ton going on. DrNutt posted:Does anyone else think the first episode is a little tone deaf given current events? We're somehow lead to believe that it's a big deal that Bosch shot and killed someone who actually had a gun when cops mow down unarmed black people (sometimes even children) on an almost weekly basis and face zero consequences. Yes, I thought this too. Lance Reddick references Ferguson in one of the middle episodes. I don't know if that was added in later to address the elephant in the room.
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Feb 16, 2015 16:40
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DrNutt posted:Does anyone else think the first episode is a little tone deaf given current events? We're somehow lead to believe that it's a big deal that Bosch shot and killed someone who actually had a gun when cops mow down unarmed black people (sometimes even children) on an almost weekly basis and face zero consequences. I like the actors a lot and I want to stick with it but that particular part of the plot really chafes at me.
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Feb 16, 2015 17:59
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Phobeste posted:I actually was thinking about it the other way around. It feels a bit gross that within the context of the events of the last year the show demands that we automatically side with the cop. In the books of course we have bosch's inner narrative but without that... Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. I mean, there are already plenty of police shows out there that constantly harp on the fact that they're always being held back by lawyers, policies, red tape, blah blah blah. I'm just wondering if the writers of these shows live in a bubble or something.
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Feb 16, 2015 18:56
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Didn't the pilot come out a few months before Mike Brown was killed? Not that there weren't other high profile shootings before that, but I think it might have been a bit different had Ferguson happened prior to filming the pilot.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:06
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The pilot was refilmed when the show went to series.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:19
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Oh, well never mind then.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:20
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I'm 7 episodes in and there have been 2 utterly inexplicable scenes that I think the show intended us to understand but make no sense. The first was in the pilot where he assesses the dead woman in the car as a suicide. What? I think we're supposed to understand that he determined she shot the gun based on the smells, but she was not wounded (aside from some blood and being dead), there was no brain splatter or blood in the car, etc. Super confusing. The second one was in episode 6 or 7 where the lady cop gets wounded by the gunshot. What the gently caress happened there? Did Bosch shoot her? His behavior gave no sign of that. The guy was against the wall so it definitely wasn't him. Nobody made any effort to go look for another person. Did she misfire her gun and shoot herself in the torso?! We rewatched the scene a few times and are just baffled.
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Feb 23, 2015 00:38
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The second one is explained later. It's meant to be confusing initially.
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Feb 23, 2015 00:58
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I think the first one was just to show him ignoring rules as matter of course, and even telling the patrolman that he was going to do so. If you missed the explanation for the second one there there must have been a lot of parts that seemed confusing towards the last half of the series. She accidentally shoots herself while fumbling between her gun and her handcuffs. Her story is that the guy went for her gun and shot her during the scuffle, but Bosch reports that he could see both of the guy's hands on the wall when the shot is fired. That's the reason that his bosses don't make a big deal out of him letting the guy go: they don't want headlines about conflicting reports on the incident. Maybe that incident was supposed to be really confusing to the watcher until the whole thing is made clear later? withak fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Feb 23, 2015 |
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Feb 23, 2015 02:08
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Yeah, I made that post immediately after the episode that ends with the shooting. I have seen the next episode now and it makes sense. I just thought it was super weird how everyone reacted. This show is great, though the intro is a little too upbeat for the pace / mood of the show.
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Feb 23, 2015 03:01
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So it is more of a realistic take on cops like Southland, or more of a noir-type shindig? Either works for me, I just don't want to start watching if its going to be a bad cop show like CSI/Mentalist with a "psychopath mastermind serial killer" type bad guy.
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Feb 23, 2015 06:45
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Definitely more of a noir type thing
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Feb 23, 2015 06:51
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It's sort of like The Wire, The Shield or Southland. No where near the quality of these but still decent. Streaming the whole show in 4k was a nice bonus.
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Feb 23, 2015 06:52
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Not a show about anime/video game voice actor or former Power Ranger Johnny Yong Bosch. Mildly disappointed.
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Feb 23, 2015 12:50
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I binged the entire series over the weekend. Since I did not read the books I did not have any expectations and enjoyed it. What I enjoyed the most was that they solved the crimes with detective work; working leads, going through old files, etc. None of the BS super enhancement of traffic camera footage, magic CSI type gimmicks.
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Feb 23, 2015 13:34
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I haven't read the books either, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. Part of that might be due to having a few Wire actors. I'll watch anything with Lance Reddick.
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Feb 23, 2015 13:42
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What's funny is when I read the books I always pictured Irving as Burrell from The Wire
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Feb 24, 2015 23:15
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tofes posted:What's funny is when I read the books I always pictured Irving as Burrell from The Wire I havn't read the books, but Burrell's first name being Irv(ing) did call up that association here too. All in all it was a decent enough season, though it was a little too by the numbers. Not so much mystery-wise, but like, it was too easy to stay one step ahead of the script. Oh, this will be called back to in the next episode. Yeah, this guy will come back later with that & that. Thoroughly entertained, but not sure I would have kept up if I didn't have the whole season at once.
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Feb 28, 2015 02:14
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Will it be renewed for another season? When will we know?
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Mar 1, 2015 07:33
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I really liked it. Nice to see Titus Welliver in a lead role
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Mar 1, 2015 07:43
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Got renewed  http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/amazon-greenlights-second-season-original-782804
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Mar 18, 2015 14:28
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GreenNight posted:Got renewed Just came here to post this. Awesome news, and so glad to hear the ratings were great.
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