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Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Ghost of Mussolini posted:

How can anyone not like Sauber ???

Weren't they one of the two teams that scored a massive zero points in 2014?

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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Norns posted:

Weren't they one of the two teams that scored a massive zero points in 2014?

That might have been because their drivers were incredibly bad, to be fair.

Stellar Curiosity
Jan 15, 2009

F1 journalism basically amounts to copy/pasting press releases and trying to be friends with everybody rather than being critical and independent. I guess that's to be expected when reporting from inside a dictatorship. (Look at that Panorama doc on Bernie from last year, no one wanted to say anything, much less anything that could be considered as critical.)

There's something to be said about the photography, which can be really excellent.

Rhopunzel
Jan 6, 2006

Stroll together, win together

Ghost of Mussolini posted:

How can anyone not like Sauber ???

they're the most boring bland non-team on the grid ever since BMW left and took their funding with them

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

I can't even remeber what livery they were using. I keep thinking they were the Caterham cars.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Sauber were extremely cool in 2012 when they had Kamui and people actually thought Sergio Perez was going to be a success.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

A buddy told me to watch for Kamui since hes supposed to be a great midpack racer. Man was I loving disappointed in 2014.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Kamui was great in cars actually built to compete in F1 rather than just go around a track at the same time F1 cars were there.

I still remember some pretty breathtaking overtakes he did in his last few seasons at Sauber. It's a real shame he never got the backing to get into a better car. I personally think McLaren chose the wrong Sauber driver.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Is it about ethics in motorsport journalism?

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.
Craig Scarborough wrote something for Autosport that takes a more practical look at that Ferrari concept and explains why it will never ever happen: http://plus.autosport.com/premium/feature/6390/could-ferrari-f1-concept-become-reality/?_ga=1.202706641.1546865961.1408733576

A shame as visually it's interesting, but how do you write a rulebook that encourages interesting looking cars as opposed to aerodynamically efficient ones? (hint, you can't)

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

drgitlin posted:

Craig Scarborough wrote something for Autosport that takes a more practical look at that Ferrari concept and explains why it will never ever happen: http://plus.autosport.com/premium/feature/6390/could-ferrari-f1-concept-become-reality/?_ga=1.202706641.1546865961.1408733576

A shame as visually it's interesting, but how do you write a rulebook that encourages interesting looking cars as opposed to aerodynamically efficient ones? (hint, you can't)

The answer is something no one wants to hear - standardised front-ends and floors.

I'd probably be OK with it if it meant the teams could build whatever they wanted on top and put in any powerplant they chose.

And if they brought in an FIA garage just purely to run local wildcards.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Norns posted:

A buddy told me to watch for Kamui since hes supposed to be a great midpack racer. Man was I loving disappointed in 2014.

His car was really awful.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Alain Post posted:

Sauber were extremely cool in 2012 when they had Kamui and people actually thought Sergio Perez was going to be a success.

Remember when Perez signed on for McLaren and his performances flatlined near the end of the year.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Human Grand Prix posted:

Remember when Perez signed on for McLaren and his performances flatlined near the end of the year.

Yeah, it was like they hired him based entirely on the Chinese GP that year or something.

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006

drgitlin posted:

Craig Scarborough wrote something for Autosport that takes a more practical look at that Ferrari concept and explains why it will never ever happen: http://plus.autosport.com/premium/feature/6390/could-ferrari-f1-concept-become-reality/?_ga=1.202706641.1546865961.1408733576

A shame as visually it's interesting, but how do you write a rulebook that encourages interesting looking cars as opposed to aerodynamically efficient ones? (hint, you can't)

Does it say anything about sitting in pit for 10 mins to replace 7 separate body panels, wings and nose cones after being Pastored?

Jon Von Anchovi
Sep 5, 2014

:australia:

drgitlin posted:

Craig Scarborough wrote something for Autosport that takes a more practical look at that Ferrari concept and explains why it will never ever happen: http://plus.autosport.com/premium/feature/6390/could-ferrari-f1-concept-become-reality/?_ga=1.202706641.1546865961.1408733576

A shame as visually it's interesting, but how do you write a rulebook that encourages interesting looking cars as opposed to aerodynamically efficient ones? (hint, you can't)

Behind pay wall :( anyone got a copy accessible?

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


hey i have a question about craig scarborough. i found his linkedin and literally all he's ever done is be an IT admin/manager/whatever. what the gently caress qualifies him to be an F1 expert

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


Wirth1000 posted:

When did motorsport.com become some sort of actual journalistic output site and not the massive image dump for various legitimate real racing series and american clown shows?

i think they did a buzzfeed, make a bunch of money generating spammy poo poo content and then invest it into being a respectable (ISH) site

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
I still like that Ferrari render and think F1 cars should have awesome Can-Am inspired-designs.

What sort of prison hooker do I have to become to get Jean Todt to make this happen

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
What the gently caress is the point of the paywall on news items on Autosport.com when Racer.com just posts literally all the news stories for free.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Wirth1000 posted:

What the gently caress is the point of the paywall on news items on Autosport.com when Racer.com just posts literally all the news stories for free.

It's really important we know Gary Anderson's desperately wrong opinion about everything.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Butt Wizard posted:

It's really important we know Gary Anderson's desperately wrong opinion about everything.

He's never as wrong as Edd Straw, who's so invariably wrong he's probably one of the shitposters in this very thread.

Dubs
Mar 6, 2007

Stroll Own Zone.
Disregard Stroll outside zone.
its me i am the gary anderson

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Gary Anderson should stick to designing cars.

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
About 10 years ago Car or Autosport did a special where they asked prominent designers to design their F1 car of the future. Gordon Murray's was basically a Wipeout 2097 thing and holy poo poo it owned.
I'm on my phone but I will try to find it later it must be floating around

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Reactions to the F1 concept from Ferrari on Autosport ranges from:

F1 is not INDY!!!!
F1 is not Le Mans!!!!!
A detailed technical discussion of why a design concept for the general look and feel is completely wrong aerodynamically and would be terrible
More people complaining that the look is not F1 enough
A couple of people who legitimately think it is interesting
A bunch of people who think the sport is perfectly fine as it is
A bunch of people who think the sport is stuffed but changing the design philosophy will do nothing because drivers should be in more danger and tracks suck
All the other mentally ill people who do not fit into the above groups who just hate it because Ferrari isn't English

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

Wirth1000 posted:

What the gently caress is the point of the paywall on news items on Autosport.com when Racer.com just posts literally all the news stories for free.

Because they hate people looking at their adverts.

More seriously I guess Racer are paying them more than the adverts would but that doesn't sound right.

Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.

be nice wicka posted:

hey i have a question about craig scarborough. i found his linkedin and literally all he's ever done is be an IT admin/manager/whatever. what the gently caress qualifies him to be an F1 expert

He drew some fancy pictures of the inside of F1 cars that got popular on the internet.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


Brainwrong posted:

He drew some fancy pictures of the inside of F1 cars that got popular on the internet.

Autism. Gotcha.

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

F1 2015: Sauber added a dick ring

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

The FIA banned changing helmets midseason. Not happy.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Sebastian Vettel posted:

The FIA banned changing helmets midseason. Not happy.

Why not just ban fun all together and then insist every time goes in with a beige coloured car?

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


darth cookie posted:

Why not just ban fun all together and then insist every time goes in with a beige coloured car?

Beige is far to lively. Grey is where it's at. Grey and black.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


Linedance posted:

Beige is far to lively. Grey is where it's at. Grey and black.

And some wacky zany McLaren intern put some red on the designs as an office prank, and everyone laughed because "haha, colour. How bohemian" and Ron Dennis let them keep it in lieu of getting a Christmas bonus.

I hate McLaren.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

darth cookie posted:

Why not just ban fun all together and then insist every time goes in with a beige coloured car?

I actually think this is good move and playing up to the gimmick of my username being Sebastian Vettel.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

Sebastian Vettel posted:

I actually think this is good move and playing up to the gimmick of my username being Sebastian Vettel.

I love Sebastian Vettel

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


i'm willing to lose the occasional neat one-off helmets if it means vettel has to stick to a single loving design

i do think this change and permanent numbers and whatever will make it easier for fans to identify drivers and ultimately in some way improve "the show" but why isn't this a secondary measure behind uh accepting that the internet exists, having a youtube channel, streaming races, etc

krushgroove
Oct 23, 2007

Disapproving look
Say what you want about Vettel's helmet changes, but that also means that if this rule had been in place previously, Jenson wouldn't have been able to have a tribute to his dad and all the other drivers wouldn't be able to have a new one-off helmet design for their home GP.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


krushgroove posted:

Say what you want about Vettel's helmet changes, but that also means that if this rule had been in place previously, Jenson wouldn't have been able to have a tribute to his dad and all the other drivers wouldn't be able to have a new one-off helmet design for their home GP.

So one shitcunt ruined it for everyone.

e: Realised that specifying who the shitcunt is was redundant

NtotheTC fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Feb 18, 2015

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