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Mantle posted:I'm not quite sure the radio analogy is a good one. According to the principle of reciprocity, the base station should be able to pick up the handheld signal just as well as it can transmit to it. Doesn't that just mean that a given antenna can transmit and receive equally well? I'd think if you have two antennas with different capabilities, the weaker one could be at a range where it could receive from the more powerful, but not be able to transmit back. When I was a park ranger there were plenty of times a portable could receive from a base radio but not transmit back.
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TerminalSaint posted:Doesn't that just mean that a given antenna can transmit and receive equally well? I'd think if you have two antennas with different capabilities, the weaker one could be at a range where it could receive from the more powerful, but not be able to transmit back. I think the theory is that the weaker one is transmitting more weakly, but the stronger one is also more sensitive, so it can pick up the weaker signal. I don't know how it works in practice and there could be other factors involved.
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slidebite posted:Those who really want high upload speeds, what do you use the high up speeds for? Uploading video, streaming, backing my poo poo up, video chat, uploading release binaries, hosting game servers, accessing my music/videos/ebooks/etc from my laptop when I'm away from home. Yeah, someone who's "just browsing" doesn't need much upload, but any sort of content creator or "power user" -- and there's a lot of both these days -- is going to need a lot more than 1Mbit, and even 10Mbit is pretty cramped. And in a lot of places there still aren't many (or any) options between "residential link with as much download as you want but lovely upload and caps" and "commercial link with loads of upload and a four figure price tag". I'm on 25/10. By sinking a lot more money into it I could double or quadruple my download rate, but it's more upload I want and I can't get that unless I get a business connection.
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Hmm, well... you need upload capacity to handle the acknowledgment of packets from your (TCP) downloads, but that's about the only time you could declare you need a specific minimum. With a 25Mbit connection, at least 1.25Mbit is spent just sending ACKs, so you could have some room with 5Mbit up. Backups and stuff are a pretty drat good use case, but I also don't really know what good a lot of upstream is for unless you're serving content. Plex is a nice thing I set up for myself and close friends/family, and I do store photos and stuff online, but if I'm honest, there's little point to my 50Mbit upstream these days (I'm on 50/50).
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Feb 7, 2015 05:33
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slidebite posted:Question I've been meaning to ask about upload/download speeds.. not necessarily Twitch superstardom bro. 320p is about all you can do in this country. The cartel is holding back Canadians from claiming their rightful place in the HD live-streaming world. 
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specific but just in general.
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slidebite posted:Out of curiosity to those people talking about switching to Telus, why wouldn't you just use Teksavvy DSL in those places? After taking into account the fact that Telus essentially gives you a bunch of money for signing up in the form of a hefty discount for 6 months, and Teksavvy makes you pay a bunch of money in the form of modem and installation fees, it takes 3 years for Teksavvy to be a better choice price wise. For the 25Mbit plan anyway. Start.ca breaks even in 20 months, which is better. Lightspeed is similar.
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Frankly, in Ontario at least Teksavvy's service (both the actual internet service and the support provided for it) has not been that great for some time.
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infernal machines posted:Frankly, in Ontario at least Teksavvy's service (both the actual internet service and the support provided for it) has not been that great for some time. Well their service is only as good as the company providing it.
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Mantle posted:Where are you located? I'm interested in the Vancouver market as well. Very far away. Windsor Ontario 
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Figured this would be a good place to ask. My dad is fed up with Rogers cable/internet after their 5th price hike in 2 years and is now looking to switch. Ive been trying to help him find a good alternative but options are limited here in Barrie (Ontario). Rogers, Bell, Comwave and Teksavvy seem to be the big players and they all range from piss poor to questionable at best. Should I just recommend Teksavvy as the least worst option and hope it works out or am I just missing a shiny golden nugget in the turd that is Canadian Internet?
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TekSavvy is the most polished turd, unless you're the bourgeoisie and can get actual fibre. TekSavvy 30/5, 400gb cap - $54.99 Rogers 30/5, 270gb cap - $79.99 + Shomi - +$8.99 & counts against your cap Small Business plan 30/5, Unlimited cap, 3 year term - $64.99 Not even a contest, and I'd rather deal with TekSavvy's tech support than Rogers'. gently caress them and the cartel. Rogers delenda est.
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Oh I can get fiber in Victoria. Here's an updated quote from Shaw. lol.Shaw posted:I have amended my pricing on the 25Mbps service and added options for 10, 15 and 20 below.
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Is that per a month? So affordable.
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The shareholders didn't get rich by writing a lot of cheques, my man.
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That's for a business connection with an SLA, a semi-guaranteed MTTR and unlimited data, so yeah that pricing isn't particularly unreasonable at all. Even for 10Mbit you're not likely to get a business class service for under $350/mo.
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Chris Knight posted:The shareholders didn't get rich by writing a lot of cheques, my man. Just letting the CEO write big ones to themselves.
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infernal machines posted:That's for a business connection with an SLA, a semi-guaranteed MTTR and unlimited data, so yeah that pricing isn't particularly unreasonable at all. The lovely part of it is there is no residential fiber. It's either $600/mo or nothing. Where are the options for non SLA and capped fiber?
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There aren't any, presumably because they don't feel there's a sufficient ROI. Basically if you want fibre it's a business class service. Hell, even here in Toronto there's only a dozen blocks or so in very high density new condo developments that have FTTH. It's relatively expensive to build and 99% of consumers are just going to compare the price to whatever DSL or Cable service they have now, practically speaking no one cares about symmetrical connections for home use.
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For those in Telus land with Teksavvy, they're able to offer 50/10.Teksavvy posted:I have some great news for you in you are in our Telus footprint out West! Effective immediately, we are now able to provide the 50Mbps DSL to those that qualify. Here is the pricing details:
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slidebite posted:For those in Telus land with Teksavvy, they're able to offer 50/10. Does anyone know if this would be available in Edmonton? I'm on Teksavvy Cable 50 but poo poo, sign me up for those prices and usage caps, even if I have to eat a hit on the new modem and install
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I would be surprised if it isn't available everywhere in Edmonton as long as your line noise/distance is OK. I'm down in Lethbridge on their 25/5 plan and I'll definitely be trying for this. It's less than $10 more over my unlimited 25/5.
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Yeah I'm paying like 85 for 50/5 300 GB so this is a no brainer
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Holy crap, $60 for unlimited 50/10? Apart from the modem purchase what is the catch? I'm worried the service will be flaky, basically.
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priznat posted:Holy crap, $60 for unlimited 50/10? Apart from the modem purchase what is the catch? I'm worried the service will be flaky, basically. At the end of the day, you're limited to the service/line Telus is able to provide to your house, and basically the only way to know if it'll be good at your house is to bite the bullet, or ask Teksavvy what kind of line stats people around you get. Ignoring the Telus variable though, there is no catch, truly unlimited. I have Teksavvy's unlimited DSL in the East and used 1TB the first month I got it after being stuck on 50GB/mo and I didn't hear a peep, regularly use 500GB/mo. John Capslocke fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Feb 21, 2015 |
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priznat posted:Holy crap, $60 for unlimited 50/10? Apart from the modem purchase what is the catch? I'm worried the service will be flaky, basically. Teksavvy via Telus infrastructure has been really good to me. I only had 1 issue early in my dealings but it was due to Telus infrastructure, not Teksavvy. I've been rock solid with them since. I'll be jumping on this for sure as long as I qualify. e: Potential hook up/transfer fees, etc. ee: To be clear, they are only doing this "unofficially" for now according to their forum in DSL reports. You have to post in their direct tech support forum with your account info to sign up. Not sure if they'll give it to you if you're not already a customer but who knows  http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29874663-DSL-Telus-50Mbs slidebite fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Feb 21, 2015 |
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drat I'm jelly of those plans. I pay nearly that for 45/5 and 350gb, and that's only because my plan is grandfathered in at start.ca.
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8ender posted:drat I'm jelly of those plans. I pay nearly that for 45/5 and 350gb, and that's only because my plan is grandfathered in at start.ca.  I'm sure Telus will cry to the CRTC about their internet pipes being clogged up and need to raise the tariff as soon as they're able too.
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I have the 50/10 with Telus now and it is like $80 for 400GB. Great service, if I can get the same for 60 and unlimited I'd be laughing. Telus does keep giving me free tv though - gotta phone in March and threaten to cancel it again, see if they re up another three free months.
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Supposedly according to the qualification tool that Teksavvy uses, I'm not qualified for 50/10 in my 6 year old house/neighborhood. Sort of surprises me but who knows. They're putting in a ticket with Telus to check for sure as I guess there have been issues with their tool in the past, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Mister Macys posted:+ Shomi - +$8.99 & counts against your cap Hahah why am I not surprised in the least? Kind of a shame it doesn't because that'd only be more evidence for how bullshit caps are. I'm kind of surprised they aren't just offering it for free, or AT LEAST cheaper then netflix, as I'd imagine that'd be a good way to steal market share from them.
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Oxyclean posted:Hahah why am I not surprised in the least? Kind of a shame it doesn't because that'd only be more evidence for how bullshit caps are. the crtc actually had to enforce this, previously bell and rogers were trying to give their steaming services a pass on the cap while still counting netflix usage, which is plainly anti-competitive.
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infernal machines posted:the crtc actually had to enforce this, previously bell and rogers were trying to give their steaming services a pass on the cap while still counting netflix usage, which is plainly anti-competitive. Yeah, basically this. I'm actually all in favour of counting those services against transfer caps. Bell is actually in the process of wasting taxpayer money to try and contest this decision, I'm hoping it'll somehow backfire horribly and have IPTV requalified as actual Internet traffic, thus crippling Telus and Bell's stance for data caps.
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infernal machines posted:the crtc actually had to enforce this, previously bell and rogers were trying to give their steaming services a pass on the cap while still counting netflix usage, which is plainly anti-competitive. I didn't think about it that way, but now I understand why, thanks. Now I'm rather surprised the CRTC got off their asses to bother.
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According to Teksavvy I would need to go bonded to get 50/10 service, which they do not presently offer  So brings up a question though, what is the metric they use to figure that out? Noise? Distance? I live in a fairly new neighborhood (late 00s) and I think the DSLAM is about 2 blocks away. My 25/5 connection is rock solid.
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slidebite posted:According to Teksavvy I would need to go bonded to get 50/10 service, which they do not presently offer Probably the service availability database provided by your telecom company.
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w00tmonger posted:Any spill over on the horizon from the states FCC classification ruling? I don't think there is any legal spill over, but it does help educate the population when we see it in the news and can create political pressure.
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