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In all honestly, remember when I say just some demon walking up and saying 'join chaos, lol' was not a thing I could see Ohone fall for? This? This I could totally see Ohone fall to Chaos for, or just away from the Emperor. This is knowledge in its rawest form. I mean, if harvesting this knowledge ends up profiting the Imperium and Omnissiah, hurray. But if some Inquisitor or Space Marine comes up to her nad says 'yes, this is foul and must be destroyed, Ohone will straight up (try to) murder that space marine. This is our Precious.
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Feb 19, 2015 17:12
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D, hereteks are cool.
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Feb 19, 2015 17:15
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Some knowledge must be lost, for the good of the Imperium. Thoughts like that are invitations to chaos. The road to the warp is paved with good intentions. The universe is vast. Another ship will be found, but this is courrpted beyond use. We will mourn it's loss and try to salvage what we can, but the Imperium needs pure hearts and minds before it needs tainted relics.
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Feb 19, 2015 17:18
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Arkanomen posted:Some knowledge must be lost, for the good of the Imperium. Thoughts like that are invitations to chaos. The road to the warp is paved with good intentions. The universe is vast. Another ship will be found, but this is courrpted beyond use. We will mourn it's loss and try to salvage what we can, but the Imperium needs pure hearts and minds before it needs tainted relics. Pure hearts and Minds are born every second by the millions. There is no shortage of them. That drivel you spout is good to make sure the dregs don't step out of line. We don't want THEM to start messing with anything. But we're Ohone. We're a genius among the Machine Cult. We're an Interrogator. We're part of the Family of a Rogue Trader. We absolutely CAN deal with this. It is likely the Omnissiah himself who guided us here. Any yokel with flamethrower could 'purify' it in destruction. We on the other hand, can sift the sludge out of the holy. We can repair it. We can bring the glories of the past back now, and lead the Imperium in a new era of resurgent growth!
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Feb 19, 2015 17:24
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B then C Also is it too late to request art? Caus I want to see Ohone singing along to lods of emone tia
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Feb 19, 2015 17:35
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Shogeton posted:Pure hearts and Minds are born every second by the millions. There is no shortage of them. That drivel you spout is good to make sure the dregs don't step out of line. We don't want THEM to start messing with anything. But we're Ohone. We're a genius among the Machine Cult. We're an Interrogator. We're part of the Family of a Rogue Trader. We absolutely CAN deal with this. It is likely the Omnissiah himself who guided us here. Any yokel with flamethrower could 'purify' it in destruction. We on the other hand, can sift the sludge out of the holy. We can repair it. We can bring the glories of the past back now, and lead the Imperium in a new era of resurgent growth! sounds like heresy to me
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Feb 19, 2015 17:39
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Shogeton posted:Pure hearts and Minds are born every second by the millions. There is no shortage of them. That drivel you spout is good to make sure the dregs don't step out of line. We don't want THEM to start messing with anything. But we're Ohone. We're a genius among the Machine Cult. We're an Interrogator. We're part of the Family of a Rogue Trader. We absolutely CAN deal with this. It is likely the Omnissiah himself who guided us here. Any yokel with flamethrower could 'purify' it in destruction. We on the other hand, can sift the sludge out of the holy. We can repair it. We can bring the glories of the past back now, and lead the Imperium in a new era of resurgent growth! Pride like this always precedes a fall. How many souls are lost to the ruinous powers. We are no greater than the lowest dreg. We would do well to remember ourselves before soiling our hands in some arrogant attempt to salvage something old. I tell you what we should salvage, the souls of the poor men enslaved to this foul xeno tech heresy and the lives of our men.
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Feb 19, 2015 17:40
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D and warn the krieg for now. We can figure out how to cleanse later.
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Feb 19, 2015 17:43
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Arkanomen posted:Pride like this always precedes a fall. How many souls are lost to the ruinous powers. We are no greater than the lowest dreg. We would do well to remember ourselves before soiling our hands in some arrogant attempt to salvage something old. I tell you what we should salvage, the souls of the poor men enslaved to this foul xeno tech heresy and the lives of our men. You want me to admit there's a risk to our soul? Fine. There's a risk that looking into this will corrupt us to the very core if we screw up. But if we're not prepared to risk out lives, our hearts, our souls, then we're better off asking the Lord Sire to put us in a cubicle and look at the same screen for the rest of our lives. We aspire to be a Magos, an Inquisitor, a Rogue Trader, and more. These things are not gained without taking risks. To turn away from this advancement because we're worried about what it might do to our soul is not faith. It is cowardice and selfishness. And these things are not gained while being soft-hearted about others. It's probably just their shells and such. The Omnissiah has taken their souls I'm sure.
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Voting for D but we should straight out order our men not to move a muscle until we say so. Don't try to sneak a plan through the vox since our communications might be intercepted. We're in a really tight situation and violence is going to be inevitable but we have two urgent problems to deal with in this room besides finding out what's going on. First we have the 24ish Genestealers in the room. Any attempt at violence is going to end in our quick and sudden deaths. There's simply no way a bunch of guardsmen are going to be able to survive combat at such a close range. The second problem we have is with the Death Korps. Telling them not to shoot at Xenos isn't going to work since they're not servitors or skitarii. They're also not the most morally flexible or open minded people so if they think that they've been duped and we're consorting with Xenos then their just going to straight out shoot us in the back. Unless we can find some way to shut the Genestealers down, we need to be prepared to turn on the Death Korp before they turn on us.
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Feb 19, 2015 17:48
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D, mostly because I'm curious. But put it this way: If we decide to cleanse them later on, it'll be much easier to do so if we can convince the lot of them to line up for a parade drill in a small, crowded room, don't mind that smell, it's nothing important...
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Arkanomen posted:Pride like this always precedes a fall. How many souls are lost to the ruinous powers. We are no greater than the lowest dreg. We would do well to remember ourselves before siling our hands in some arrogant attempt to salvage something old. I tell you what we should salvage, the souls of the poor men enslaved to this foul xeno tech heresy and the lives of our men. Qui audet adipiscitur
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Feb 19, 2015 18:05
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Feb 19, 2015 18:06
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I mean I'm all for trying to save the ship but if it's choose between saving the ship or stopping the 'nids I'm stoppin' the 'nids.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:14
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This whole war is probably being secretly justified by the presence of the ship beneath Gamma. There is zero possibility that the Mechanicus would let an Ark just go /missing/ - it probably still pings Mars occasionally on some sort of hyper-frequency quantum tunneling comm system.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:19
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Feb 19, 2015 18:23
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D - Step one to cleansing this ship is understanding how bad the damage is. This ship is worth more than the planet. We can and should make every sacrifice necessary to restore it to functionality. That means not outright destroying important parts, even if they're temporarily corrupted.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:24
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D. I agree, we need to know what happened here, who's to blame, and if it's possible to fix it. Let's see if we can't get them to start clearing xeno for us, too. @LowellDND, great post. I definitely liked that description, and agree with the following: There Bias Two posted:Ewwww. I imagine this place feels and sounds like being in a giant mouth while they're chewing on insects. Of course, it's a mouth chewing on insects while muttering in High Gothic. Also, Arkanomen and Shogeton's philosophical debate is quite good. I approve of that.
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mepstein73 posted:D. I agree, we need to know what happened here, who's to blame, and if it's possible to fix it. Let's see if we can't get them to start clearing xeno for us, too.
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Something to note is that we were expressly let inside the ship. It may be that the hivefleet that's inbound has a weak connection to these nids. I'm not sure if they're capable of or even want to control mechanized nids, but it's something to keep in mind.
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Something to note is that we were expressly let inside the ship. It may be that the hivefleet that's inbound has a weak connection to these nids. I'm not sure if they're capable of or even want to control mechanized nids, but it's something to keep in mind.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:01
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A while back we stole something from the Magos' warehouse, something to do with controlling machine spirits, did we ever get to use that or even determine what it did?
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Oasx posted:A while back we stole something from the Magos' warehouse, something to do with controlling machine spirits, did we ever get to use that or even determine what it did? You know, I completely forgot about it. quote:Nothing that matched your strengths though. Nothing that let you dance along the wires and conduits of the ship, sing to the Machine-Spirits and make them obey. Until… you found a set of materials that did. A machine of metal and brass and ancient bindings, something that could awaken the Machine-Spirits from dead objects. Something that could raise life where there was none.
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Just caught up. Lowell you've turned a completely dead workweek into something fun. Hats off to you.
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Basscop posted:Just caught up. Lowell you've turned a completely dead workweek into something fun. Hats off to you. Thank you! Good to have you
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Oasx posted:A while back we stole something from the Magos' warehouse, something to do with controlling machine spirits, did we ever get to use that or even determine what it did?
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I'm looking through the branches of Radical Inquisitors, and I can't find any that are particularly tied to use of using xeno/forbidden tech. The closest I could find are the Recongregationists, who generally seek to rebuild and strengthen an Empire they feel has grown stagnant, though not necessarily through strife like the Istvaanists. And incidentally yeah if we can use that binder it'd be a good idea.
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D. If the Krieg attack us despite whatever surreptitious message we can send them, i guess we deal with that. Maybe their faith in us will lead them to believe we have a plan?
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JT Jag posted:I'm looking through the branches of Radical Inquisitors, and I can't find any that are particularly tied to use of using xeno/forbidden tech. The closest I could find are the Recongregationists, who generally seek to rebuild and strengthen an Empire they feel has grown stagnant, though not necessarily through strife like the Istvaanists. Possible ones: Xeno Hybris - The Xeno Hybris is a Radical faction that has existed within the Calixis Sector for almost as long as it has been a part of the Imperium. It is speculated that the faction grew out of a gathering of Radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitors and agents drawn to the sector in search of clues to lost alien civilizations. Whatever the case, today the faction works diligently to uncover alien technology and better understand the alien mind. Inquisitors of this faction believe that there is much to learn from the aliens of the galaxy and only by cooperation with the other intelligent starfaring races can the true enemy of all sentient life be defeated. Needless to say, these beliefs often bring them into conflict with Monodominants and their followers, who view any dealing with xenos as an abomination. Oblationists are a Radical faction of the Inquisition. They believe that the Warp, the xenos and the unclean are utterly damning and those who utilise them must face the ultimate sanction. Yet they also believe their use is necessary to overcome mankind's enemies. Therefore the righteous must sacrifice themselves and embrace damnation in order for humanity to survive.
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So, LowellDND, have you ever heard of Halo Devices? They seem like they'd be right up your alley, fiction-wise. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Halo_Devices http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Life_Extension_Technologies#Halo_Devices Edit: I just remembered that I brought these things up before. It's been so long! Green Intern fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Shogeton posted:You want me to admit there's a risk to our soul? Fine. There's a risk that looking into this will corrupt us to the very core if we screw up. But if we're not prepared to risk out lives, our hearts, our souls, then we're better off asking the Lord Sire to put us in a cubicle and look at the same screen for the rest of our lives. We aspire to be a Magos, an Inquisitor, a Rogue Trader, and more. These things are not gained without taking risks. To turn away from this advancement because we're worried about what it might do to our soul is not faith. It is cowardice and selfishness. We are of the machine. Thoughts of ego and pride and cowardice are not in the equation. We cannot allow the adversary to gain even a single inch or a single soul. This machine is temptation in its purest form. The devil will not approach with a handful of feces, but a golden banquet of the greatest magnitude. What we lack in material the Omnissiah will provide. Our goal, above all else, is the protection and advancement of the imperium of man, so it follows that that exact temptation is what the ruinous powers would bait us with. There will be another ship, untainted and pure when the God Emperor wills us to find one. Pity those that trust in reason and would put themselves before the Emperor. Their only reward is a wretched death. Intolerance and zeal are the mark of the faithful. Put this heresy to the flame and faith in the emperor to gain the greatest reward of all. He who dares to preserve this abomination will know only treachery and retribution. The Emperor provides, gain will not be found in the taint of the xeno and the heretic.
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Green Intern posted:So, LowellDND, have you ever heard of Halo Devices? They seem like they'd be right up your alley, fiction-wise. Oh Omnissiah no no no 
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D We need to get this ship into space where it can be quarantined and purified (while we take complete control of it). This keeps anyone else from poaching. As I recall our theory was that just flying the thing up through the hive and enemy would pretty much turn the war. Do we need to make sure we don't get nuked by ff in the process or is that not a concern?
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Sogol posted:D The only thing that could hit this ship right now is Exterminatus, you are about 5km underground. As for ground based nukes, at least some of the void shields are working. You'll need more data before you can say for sure.
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Green Intern posted:So, LowellDND, have you ever heard of Halo Devices? They seem like they'd be right up your alley, fiction-wise. As an aside, BeerfortheBeerGod came up with a little something in the 40k thread that he said I could use. Beer4TheBeerGod posted: quote:+++Astropathic Intercept+++
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D! Bareface our way through this, and later on ask them to demonstrate the airlock. Personally.
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