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Protocol7 posted:Speaking of brodozers, I got irrationally angry at this truck I saw pull into a handicap spot at Target. Lifted, huge tires, stacks, smoked lights. Guy steps out and walks completely fine into the store. The gently caress do you need a handicap plate for if you can walk? Is your wiener that small that it's considered a disability? My mom has a handicap placard because she has had reconstructive knee surgery and sometimes can't walk very well, and other times she walks fairly fine. How about you stop judging people based solely off of looks?
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Feb 20, 2015 17:51
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Seriously, unless you can prove it's not their placard, there shouldn't be anything to fuss about. They went to a doctor, a doctor determined their need. End of story. However, when it isn't theirs, and they get caught using it, pure Schadenfreude.
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Feb 20, 2015 18:09
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Yeah let the cops worry about it, to me it's akin to judging people in the grocery lines for purchasing stuff with EBT.
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Feb 20, 2015 18:44
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ratbert90 posted:My mom has a handicap placard because she has had reconstructive knee surgery and sometimes can't walk very well, and other times she walks fairly fine. How about you stop judging people based solely off of looks? It's not really a good parallel, but for example I avoid parking in electric spots if I'm not charging, even though I can, because it'd be a dick move to get a more convenient space at the expense of someone who needs to use it.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:30
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Feb 20, 2015 19:51
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Heh, one of my friends 20 year old wife got a handicapped placard because she has a "learning disability", the extent of this disability is poo poo like choosing to watch air bud in space instead of studying when she is offered help.
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Feb 20, 2015 20:00
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InitialDave posted:But on a day where she's walking just fine, you could argue that while she may be allowed to use the space, but she doesn't need to, so leaving it for someone who's having the other kind of day would be the right thing to do. No one can say she's wrong to park there, but is it the use the intent of having the space? How do you know for a sure that she'll still be having a good knee day AFTER her ~30-60 minutes of walking on it, and not need the car to be that much closer on the way out?
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Feb 20, 2015 20:01
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PCOS Bill posted:How do you know for a sure that she'll still be having a good knee day AFTER her ~30-60 minutes of walking on it, and not need the car to be that much closer on the way out?
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Feb 20, 2015 20:13
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I'm not saying there can't be variable cases, but a lifted brotruck is probably not a great vehicle to use if you have a legitimate disability or hindrance, even if minor. Maybe his case is valid and I really am an rear end in a top hat, but it just doesn't seem likely.
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Feb 20, 2015 20:49
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Why not? Steps for easy entrance, good visibility on the road. Life is a lot more laid back if you don't assume the worst of people. I think I'd pick a SUV/truck over any other vehicle if I had a hurt leg or back. VVV Back problems nsaP fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 20:56
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Protocol7 posted:Speaking of brodozers, I got irrationally angry at this truck I saw pull into a handicap spot at Target. Lifted, huge tires, stacks, smoked lights. Guy steps out and walks completely fine into the store. The gently caress do you need a handicap plate for if you can walk? Is your wiener that small that it's considered a disability? I think the bigger question is what injury could you possibly have that justifies a handicap placard but you can climb into and out of a lifted brotruck without issue? CharlieWhiskey posted:BMW drivers in the US also feature "alternative parking" on all models. As a one-time cart jockey the truly terrible thing about this picture is he hard parked right next to a cart return. Great, you saved your car from conventional door dings, but in exchange you're running the much higher risk of someone smashing a cart into your car because they were too lazy to walk all the way to the return and just pushed it in the general direction of the return.
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Feb 20, 2015 20:57
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Geoj posted:As a one-time cart jockey the truly terrible thing about this picture is he hard parked right next to a cart return. Great, you saved your car from conventional door dings, but in exchange you're running the much higher risk of someone smashing a cart into your car because they were too lazy to walk all the way to the return and just pushed it in the general direction of the return. Accidental dings? Heh
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Feb 20, 2015 21:24
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nsaP posted:Why not? Steps for easy entrance, good visibility on the road. Life is a lot more laid back if you don't assume the worst of people. My grandpa drove a minivan or similar from late middle age until the day he died because it was perfect for him due to arthritis, bad knees, etc. He didn't have to step up getting in or out, and he loved it. Near the end he traded in a minivan on a sedan just for something different, and it was less than six months before that got traded in on the newest Town & Country or Caravan (I can't remember, doesn't really matter which it was)
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Feb 20, 2015 21:36
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Geoj posted:I think the bigger question is what injury could you possibly have that justifies a handicap placard but you can climb into and out of a lifted brotruck without issue? A temporary one?
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Feb 20, 2015 21:41
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PT6A posted:I think it's because they know you're more likely to be careful when opening your doors if you already went to the trouble of parking far away. If they're worried about that then why wouldn't they leave a space in between which guarantees they won't get dinged anyway? Parking has the same rules as urinal use. Always leave a space if you can. I thought this was obvious but I run into this all the time.
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Feb 20, 2015 21:52
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Hikaki posted:If they're worried about that then why wouldn't they leave a space in between which guarantees they won't get dinged anyway? Because then some careless jerk could park in between, of course! I'm not saying it's a good idea, but I'm pretty sure that's why it happens.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:05
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:A temporary one? Or you could admit that someone who is able to jump out of and climb into a lifted truck likely swiped a bedridden or deceased family member's handicap placard...
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Feb 20, 2015 22:10
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The world is filled with lots of different people with different disabilities, so let's give people the benefit of the doubt. If they are using a placard they don't need, or that doesn't belong to them, they're assholes, but there's no way you can make that judgement simply by looking at them or the vehicle they drive.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:23
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Mobility issues aren't the only reason they give out handicapped tags either. Non-visible issues like breathing or heart issues are perfectly viable reasons to be given a tag. So basically, stop worrying about it. If they're cheating the system eventually they'll get caught.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:27
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But he was driving the type of vehicle i don't like 
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Feb 20, 2015 22:33
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Well poo poo if owning a car I don't like is justification to throw people in jail, I could have this city's traffic problems cleared up in less than a week.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:39
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Powershift posted:But he was driving the type of vehicle i don't like Yeah, you're right. I just don't like brotrucks. It couldn't have anything to do with a lifted truck being a completely inappropriate and unlikely vehicle for a person who needs a handicap placard due to some physical ailment that prevents them from walking short distances 
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Feb 20, 2015 22:46
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You get why I mentioned the idea of temporary placards right Like how that relates to what you do with the vehicle you drive
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Feb 20, 2015 22:51
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Geoj posted:Yeah, you're right. I just don't like brotrucks. Well, you being the guys doctor, i guess I'll have to take your word for it.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:52
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Powershift posted:Well, you being the guys doctor, i guess I'll have to take your word for it. Can doctors prescribed what kind of vehicles you can drive. "Take this prescription for one (1) sports car to your local car dealer, stat."
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Feb 20, 2015 23:01
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Listen, nobody gets to park in those handicapped spots, NOBODY.
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Feb 20, 2015 23:12
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wayfinder posted:Listen, nobody gets to park in those handicapped spots, NOBODY. Not even little old ladies? 
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Feb 20, 2015 23:14
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eh, my mom has a handicap permit but her doc told her not to use it if she doesn't treally need to. A little extra walking is good excercise. She uses it maybe once or twice a month when her knees are aching.
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Feb 20, 2015 23:22
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In addition, you're not supposed to have the plaque displayed unless you're parked, it's technically a crime to drive around with it always on here in Manitoba. Doesn't stop what looks like he vast majority of people leaving it on. And the paperwork you get with it also states to only use it when you have to, and to try to minimize use for those who still have partial mobility. Pretty much don't abuse it is the gist of it. It probably looks pretty ridiculous to see a souped up subie with a placard, and I've seen people leer at what looks like two young healthy people walk out, but you definitely don't have to look old or obviously disabled to have a need for the pass.
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Feb 20, 2015 23:41
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A buddy of mine who's big into hot hatches has a disabled badge because his hip is hosed up and he can't walk long distances. He gets so many sideways glances from people who just see a twentysomething guy in a loud car pull into a disabled bay and walk inside and don't realise he spent 2 years in a wheelchair and getting to park by the door is the difference between him being able to do his shopping and go home like a normal person or spending the rest of the day popping painkillers and aching.
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Feb 20, 2015 23:52
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Bajaha posted:In addition, you're not supposed to have the plaque displayed unless you're parked, it's technically a crime to drive around with it always on here in Manitoba. Doesn't stop what looks like he vast majority of people leaving it on. I'm sure people who do it legally are judged for it as well. "See, he's not really handicapped! He just put it up cause he wanted to park close"
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Feb 21, 2015 00:21
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:A buddy of mine who's big into hot hatches has a disabled badge because his hip is hosed up and he can't walk long distances. He gets so many sideways glances from people who just see a twentysomething guy in a loud car pull into a disabled bay and walk inside and don't realise he spent 2 years in a wheelchair and getting to park by the door is the difference between him being able to do his shopping and go home like a normal person or spending the rest of the day popping painkillers and aching. This. Friend of a friend lost both legs below the knee and had handicap plates on his Caddy. With much practice he was able to eventually able to walk unassisted on his prosthetics, but standing/walking for lengths of time could be uncomfortable if not painful. One day, some blue-hair saw this twentysomething guy with his two buddies park "his grandpa's" car in her spot and called the Police. Imagine the look on her face when, with Police and on-lookers present, this guy pops his door open, sits down, and removes two shoes. With calves attached. I don't recall exactly what he said at that moment, but it was something along the lines of, "Is this handicap enough, you nosy bitch?" So yeah, a handicap isn't always obvious. gently caress heads using a placard for princess parking is lovely and they deserve all the fines and public ridicule we can throw at them. But stereotyping handicap as an age or vehicle is also kinda lovely. If you suspect somebody is abusing the system absolutely report it. Believe it or not, most municipalities take this chickenshit behavior semi-seriously.
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Feb 21, 2015 06:11
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The mall I used to work at (long before I worked there) used to have "expectant mother parking", like 5 spots in a row, maybe one row out from where handicap spots end. i don't mean to sound crass, but if you're at the point in your pregnancy where walking is seriously impaired, you should probably be either in bed or checking into the hospital, since you're about to pop. I get that having an extra ~30 lbs hanging off you in the first 7 months or whatever is inconvenient and uncomfortable, but it's hardly a serious impediment to mobility.
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Feb 21, 2015 06:25
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Fucknag posted:The mall I used to work at (long before I worked there) used to have "expectant mother parking", like 5 spots in a row, maybe one row out from where handicap spots end. I bet you get some great double-takes if you park a motorcycle in that spot and wait around.
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Feb 21, 2015 06:29
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Geoj posted:Yeah, you're right. I just don't like brotrucks. So people with disabilities shouldn't have things they like because they are impractical? Should everyone only drive completely practical vehicles? Seems like an odd argument to make in AI. I knew a guy with a lifted truck who was in a wheel chair and had to drive with hand controls. He had straps to help him get in and out and would fold up his chair and put it behind the front seat. He let me drive it through a field once and it was pretty awesome to use the hand controls, but was really weird feeling also.
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Feb 21, 2015 06:36
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Fucknag posted:The mall I used to work at (long before I worked there) used to have "expectant mother parking", like 5 spots in a row, maybe one row out from where handicap spots end. I've only seen 1-2 spots/row in the only mall around here that has them, though. 5 is a bit much.
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Feb 21, 2015 06:42
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Almost got t-boned turning left out of a parking lot tonight. There was someone coming from my left on a motorcycle and I had a good bit of distance so I started the left turn. Did I say motorcycle? I meant 4Runner with only one lovely, dim headlight. It's pitch black and pouring rain - kind of difficult to judge the oncoming vehicle for speed and distance when you only have one half-working low beam to go off of. He didn't even brake, just laid on his horn. You know what man? If you aren't going to fix your loving headlights, just leave your high beams on.
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Feb 21, 2015 10:05
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Are you saying it was OK if you just would have cut off a motorcycle? Fo3 fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Feb 21, 2015 |
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Feb 21, 2015 13:25
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I think he means that it looked like a far-off bike, rather than a closer car.
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The way that reads is that they assumed it was a motorcycle, saw one light, and they thought it was fine to cut them off. But it ended up being a car with a headlight out, so someone else's fault too.
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