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Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer

DrVenkman posted:

I honestly hope he never leaves. He's the gift that keeps on giving. I know Reddit is frowned upon a lot and while there are people who take everything onboard that Metsfan says there's just as many asking him to stop. Someone linked to a story that Alvarez wrote about the freedom that NXT gets, and Metsfan tried to claim that he said basically the same thing, while linking to his own post that doesn't actually say the same thing.

Hell even the mod of the board came out and revealed that Mets worked for WWE for a limited amount of time a few years ago.

I'm not sure if my favorite recent MetsFan thing is his trying to report on other companies that he assumedly has no connection to, or his "Triple H's new clique" "report" that basically said "the guys who are among the best wrestlers in the world don't have to do the same workouts as the greenest rookies."

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Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

Speaking of Stroud, he used to obsessively mention his girlfriend Destiny in every RAW recap but I haven't seen a mention in months. Did she finally get tired of that Hornswaggle-looking beta?

Mob
May 7, 2002

Me reading your posts

MetsFan is doing an AMA right now and all his answers are like 2-3 words so he might be drunk. Also he keeps typing Sami as Sammi and it's annoying as gently caress how do you not know how to spell a name with four letters you internet nerd

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames
MetsFan's constant ruination of his own supposed credibility is delightful.

Mob
May 7, 2002

Me reading your posts

I always felt like if I could afford a WOL/F4W sub I could just listen to the daily shows, reword them, and then be _______Fan5Ever on Reddit, I'm only ten bucks and a local pro sports team away. I mean I could be WildcatsFan but when your college basketball team makes everyone else look like garbage puked a turd there's no point in bragging about it

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

My favourite Metsfan memory is the time he posted something that implied his source knew more about something going on with the Rock than Dave Meltzers source.

Meltzers source for Rock stories of course being the Rock.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

Skinty McEdger posted:

My favourite Metsfan memory is the time he posted something that implied his source knew more about something going on with the Rock than Dave Meltzers source.

Meltzers source for Rock stories of course being the Rock.

He just did the most passive/aggressive AMA. He's given like two word answers the whole time and when someone asked if he was ok because he doesn't seem that into it he just moaned that it wasn't as exciting as he thought it was going to be and he's not sure why he did it. It's almost like he's done it purely for attention and when that didn't pan out he lost interest.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013


His friend Phillip.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Thats loving amazing.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
I can't screencap it now, but someone asked if Montreal was a work and he replied that he was.

METSFAN got the scoops.

dsriggs
May 28, 2012

MONEY FALLS...

...FROM THE SKY...

...WHENEVER HE POSTS!
Reddit also buzzing over some bullshit report that ROH is in talks with Spike, completely forgetting they're already owned by a television company.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

dsriggs posted:

Reddit also buzzing over some bullshit report that ROH is in talks with Spike, completely forgetting they're already owned by a television company.

I doubt the report is true, but a monthly special on Spike would make sense for Sinclair IMO.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

rovert posted:



His friend Phillip.

this is some real desperate attention-seeking from someone who by all accounts has had multiple adult jobs

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

sportsgenius86 posted:

I doubt the report is true, but a monthly special on Spike would make sense for Sinclair IMO.

It would also supply this thread with endless fuel once Mecca and Asylum got wind of it, so I'm all for it.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



El Gallinero Gros posted:

It would also supply this thread with endless fuel once Mecca and Asylum got wind of it, so I'm all for it.

Especially if ROH did even slightly better than TNA on Spike.

WeaponX
Jul 28, 2008



rovert posted:



His friend Phillip.

:laffo: holy poo poo :laffo:

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

dsriggs posted:

Reddit also buzzing over some bullshit report that ROH is in talks with Spike, completely forgetting they're already owned by a television company.

If Sinclair could get paid more for ROH TV than it is worth to them they'd do that deal in a second.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames

rovert posted:



His friend Phillip.

He's talking about no longer supporting the Mets exclusively. He will henceforth be known as MetsFanSometimesAndAlsoTheChicagoCubs.

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

MassRafTer posted:

If Sinclair could get paid more for ROH TV than it is worth to them they'd do that deal in a second.
Yeah, media companies do this a lot, networks pick up shows produced by other networks' parent companies, and not even in syndication but as active, seasonal programs.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Good poo poo from Ask the Mask on Grantland

quote:

What, exactly, makes smart marks any different from Vince or Hunter in their obsession with certain types of performers?...

I loved this email, even if I don’t agree with every word of it. The idea that some smart fans fetishize certain types of wrestlers — just like Vince McMahon drools over other types — is spot-on.

e:

A stunning assessment of WWE's business.

quote:

Do you think WrestleMania will ever be aired on NBC?

Now this is the kind of out-of-the-box idea that WWE might be able to pull off, thanks to the WWE Network. It’s an absolutely insane idea that could actually work. By next year, network membership should be pretty stable — the core audience members will largely be permanent subscribers. To reach a broader audience — the kind of people who haven’t watched since Hulkamania’s heyday or the Monday Night Wars — WWE should consider taking over network TV for a night and airing the biggest show of the year for free. It would function as a commercial for the network. Say that anybody who subscribes that night gets six months for $20 — the sort of fans who would sign up are the type who have been Hulu Plus members for the past two years even though they’ve never watched a Criterion movie. They’ll never unsubscribe! That’s who WWE really needs. And think of the social media! Just don’t schedule it on the same night as the Oscars or the NCAA championship and this could be gold.

e2: God dammit this entire piece is such unbelievable garbage.

quote:

How would I book [Sami Zayn's WWE debut]? I’d have him pull a 1-2-3 Kid–style win over Rusev (or, more likely: Bad News Barrett) and have them do a best-out-of-five series that culminates at a PPV. Zayn loses but looks strong.

UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Feb 21, 2015

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

UltimoDragonQuest posted:


A stunning assessment of WWE's business.


I don't know things about TV business, but this is stupid and insane because NBC would never put pro-wrestling, not even Wrestlemania, on Prime Time network TV as if it were some sort of superbowl, right? I want to make sure it's not the opposite problem of it making way more money being sold on PPV for some weird reason that I'm missing.

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer
I don't think it'd be stupid of WWE to get Mania on NBC.

I do love how this column loves the term smart marks, which I think was last used regularly in 2005.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I defended Shoemaker's book as a light read, but goddamn that article is bad. His fantasy booking is sub-Cageside Seats.

hunnert car pileup
Oct 28, 2007

the first world was a mistake

I'd almost argue that getting paid to write that poo poo makes him worse than Babinsack by default.

Mob
May 7, 2002

Me reading your posts

hmm yes ah the heh uncultured swine who pay for Hulu Plus yet do not even peruse the list of black and white French and Japanese movies from pre-1950. true "marks" heh did you see the term I used

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Mob posted:

hmm yes ah the heh uncultured swine who pay for Hulu Plus yet do not even peruse the list of black and white French and Japanese movies from pre-1950. true "marks" heh did you see the term I used

Hulu is such a weird loving place for the Criterion Collection to have ended up online. I feel like a venn diagram of the people who want to pay $10 a month to be able to stream Big Bang Theory or whatever from their iPhone and the people who would want to stream Criterion movies are just two separate circles, drawn on totally separate pieces of paper, by different people.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

TheJoker138 posted:

Hulu is such a weird loving place for the Criterion Collection to have ended up online. I feel like a venn diagram of the people who want to pay $10 a month to be able to stream Big Bang Theory or whatever from their iPhone and the people who would want to stream Criterion movies are just two separate circles, drawn on totally separate pieces of paper, by different people.

On separate continents, even.

That said, I'm one of the people who pays the £6.99 for Netflix regardless of how much I use it, so… :shrug:

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

Sanguinia posted:

I don't know things about TV business, but this is stupid and insane because NBC would never put pro-wrestling, not even Wrestlemania, on Prime Time network TV as if it were some sort of superbowl, right? I want to make sure it's not the opposite problem of it making way more money being sold on PPV for some weird reason that I'm missing.

They wouldn't do it because there's no ad money in pro wrestling

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Benne posted:

They wouldn't do it because there's no ad money in pro wrestling

There could be, but ad companies decide that, and they're idiots.

Fat Lowtax
Nov 9, 2008


"I'm willing to pay up to $1200 for a big anime titty"


I don't remember how the Saturday Night's Main Events did but it was probably reasonable.

Since WWE advertising is still payday loans and Mike's Hard Lemonade, I doubt Wrestlemania provides enough value added that giving it away is a thing that makes sense, even after a couple good Network years.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they got a Sunday night to put on a Fast Lane kind of PPV, though.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Under the vegetable posted:

There could be, but ad companies decide that, and they're idiots.

WWE's fanbase is not desirable. It's large enough to probably be worth a bit more than it is but it's relatively poor and uneducated.

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No wonder Vince hates his audience.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

MassRafTer posted:

WWE's fanbase is not desirable. It's large enough to probably be worth a bit more than it is but it's relatively poor and uneducated.

Even if we believe the statistical data on this, it seems like such a stupid reason to not want to advertise with them. What are the two biggest cash cows of professional football? Cars and beer. The poor uneducated blue collar types in Chicago, the south and the New England/New York/Pennsylvania tri-state area buy that poo poo as much IF NOT MORE than the so-called 'desirable' demographics that WWE supposedly doesn't have. Raw has a consistent history of holding it's own against other professional sports including Monday Night Football even if it reaches a smaller audience, and the exorbitant prices of their merch and tickets shows they're willing to spend. What is the hangup? Since when does loving Ford of Anheizer Busch turn it's nose up at the opportunity to sell things to rednecks and factory workers?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Sanguinia posted:

Even if we believe the statistical data on this, it seems like such a stupid reason to not want to advertise with them. What are the two biggest cash cows of professional football? Cars and beer. The poor uneducated blue collar types in Chicago, the south and the New England/New York/Pennsylvania tri-state area buy that poo poo as much IF NOT MORE than the so-called 'desirable' demographics that WWE supposedly doesn't have. Raw has a consistent history of holding it's own against other professional sports including Monday Night Football even if it reaches a smaller audience, and the exorbitant prices of their merch and tickets shows they're willing to spend. What is the hangup? Since when does loving Ford of Anheizer Busch turn it's nose up at the opportunity to sell things to rednecks and factory workers?

They are willing to support that product. Historically wrestling fans haven't even been seen as a giant boon for networks trying to get people to tune into other programs. One of the rare exceptions was The Ultimate Fighter. That's one reason why it's rarely been used as a lead in to other original programming. People who watch Raw are a really peculiar breed. Even if there were signs they want to support other things, brands don't want to be seen as low class even if they are cheap. When TV Networks, surveys and advertisers all view an audience as worthless maybe it really is worthless? It's ok to admit you are trash, I already know I am.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Sanguinia posted:

Even if we believe the statistical data on this, it seems like such a stupid reason to not want to advertise with them. What are the two biggest cash cows of professional football? Cars and beer. The poor uneducated blue collar types in Chicago, the south and the New England/New York/Pennsylvania tri-state area buy that poo poo as much IF NOT MORE than the so-called 'desirable' demographics that WWE supposedly doesn't have. Raw has a consistent history of holding it's own against other professional sports including Monday Night Football even if it reaches a smaller audience, and the exorbitant prices of their merch and tickets shows they're willing to spend. What is the hangup? Since when does loving Ford of Anheizer Busch turn it's nose up at the opportunity to sell things to rednecks and factory workers?

Wrestling is thought of as a hicks demographic, so Vince will always try to get it accepted as 'Sports Entertainment', which makes it and him look carny and dishonest, etc. it's a cycle. But don't think that this advertisement poo poo doesn't drive him up the wall.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Reminder that the last two times professional wrestling was mainstream, WWE fans cheered as the most evil man in the industry forced a woman to strip down to her underwear and bark like a dog to beg for her job, and a top star killed his wife and son.

That is one of many, many legitimate reasons why WWE, and by extension its fans, are viewed as especially low class.

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

:lol: at 2007 wwe being "mainstream"

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

MassRafTer posted:

WWE's fanbase is not desirable. It's large enough to probably be worth a bit more than it is but it's relatively poor and uneducated.

And yet people still put ads on Two and a Half Men, all other network sitcoms, both Fox news and primetime, the History channel, and basically all tv that isn't premium cable. Weird.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Under the vegetable posted:

And yet people still put ads on Two and a Half Men, all other network sitcoms, both Fox news and primetime, the History channel, and basically all tv that isn't premium cable. Weird.

On a good day only 80% of TV today is trash, it's true

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Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Under the vegetable posted:

And yet people still put ads on Two and a Half Men, all other network sitcoms, both Fox news and primetime, the History channel, and basically all tv that isn't premium cable. Weird.

Also let's reiterate a point I made in some other post that I can't go to any store without seeing something branded with Duck Dynasty, a show literally about rednecks dicking around while avoiding running their loving DUCK CALL BUSINESS. And also Honey Boo Boo's riveting toenail based programming. But we can't put advertisements on a pro wrestling show because that would make us look low-brow.

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