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Deadpool posted:I clicked this dreading it because I thought it would be the stupidest thing ever committed to film. And for the most part it was. But that was clearly the point. The person that made this clearly decided to take the goofiest show and bathe it in blood and guts in order to make some kind of commentary on the trend of movies doing just that. Only he decided to take it to its inevitable ending and just loads it with dark poo poo for the sake of dark poo poo. It's terrible but I understand what they were trying to do so I guess that counts for something. I would bet at almost no point did the people making this (writer/director) think they were making something cool. But it will surely be called that by many people totally missing the point. Yeah he did an interview on Hitfix where he's said that it's a play on the idea that people clamour for 'dark and gritty' reboots on things. And how he's been watching fan films where they inexplicably do a dark re-imagining of say Mario Brothers. It was all about taking it to its logical conclusion.
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Bown posted:"Detention" is my personal pick for the most underrated movie of this decade. DivisionPost has gotten me into a lot of good stuff, but that one's probably my favourite. I don't know about most underrated movie of the decade, but it is amazingly entertaining and deserves to be watched by way more people. Reminded of "Brotherhood of the Wolf" in its go-for-broke lets-fit-20-movies-into-90-minutes approach. Not for everyone, but given the nature of these forums it should be a good fit.
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Feb 24, 2015 14:15
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Detention is basically a twenty-car pileup involving Saw, Scream, The Breakfast Club, Freaky Friday, Freejack, The Rules of Attraction, and many others, and the wreckage somehow forms a coherent, beautiful picture. It's a miracle of a movie; love it, hate it, you should know it exists. It's on Netflix.
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Deadpool posted:I clicked this dreading it because I thought it would be the stupidest thing ever committed to film. And for the most part it was. But that was clearly the point. The person that made this clearly decided to take the goofiest show and bathe it in blood and guts in order to make some kind of commentary on the trend of movies doing just that. Only he decided to take it to its inevitable ending and just loads it with dark poo poo for the sake of dark poo poo. It's terrible but I understand what they were trying to do so I guess that counts for something. I would bet at almost no point did the people making this (writer/director) think they were making something cool. But it will surely be called that by many people totally missing the point. The fight scenes were ok 
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Feb 24, 2015 15:38
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It's pastiche more than parody.
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Feb 24, 2015 15:45
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Sober posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw5vcUPyL90 Cyborg James Vander Beek makes it worth wild.
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Sober posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw5vcUPyL90 I really like Joseph Kahn and how much he loves being ridiculous. This would have worked wonderfully as a James Van Der Beek movie in Don't Trust the Bitch.
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Been watching Chicago Fire on a binge, not hating it at all. Some great characters, all the stunt work and fire footage is amazing.
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It was nice to see that The Mindy Project kind of worked itself out as a show in Season 2 and became something actually worth while... but is anyone else thinking it's starting to slip back down the slope again? Week in week out it seems to just be The Danny and Mindy Show and it's not been particularly entertaining because of it. Hope it gets out of the rut again, and starts doing more stuff with the other characters, pretty much all of whom are more interesting.
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DrVenkman posted:Yeah he did an interview on Hitfix where he's said that it's a play on the idea that people clamour for 'dark and gritty' reboots on things. And how he's been watching fan films where they inexplicably do a dark re-imagining of say Mario Brothers. It was all about taking it to its logical conclusion. SunshineDanceParty posted:I really like Joseph Kahn and how much he loves being ridiculous. This would have worked wonderfully as a James Van Der Beek movie in Don't Trust the Bitch.
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Feb 24, 2015 17:59
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Spatula City posted:I never "stewed in repulsion". I love the show, I just never watched it seeing Walter as a badass. He's an egomaniacal prick with self-serving justifications for his shittiness, and it is UTTERLY FASCINATING to watch him plunge further and further. Seriously, they make it crystal (lol) clear that he is not a good person and that you should not consider him a good person, and I'm only halfway through season 2. Do people seriously think you're supposed to root for him just because he's the main character? Did you suckers who watched Dexter all the way through think the same thing there?
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Feb 24, 2015 18:51
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raditts posted:Seriously, they make it crystal (lol) clear that he is not a good person and that you should not consider him a good person, and I'm only halfway through season 2. Do people seriously think you're supposed to root for him just because he's the main character? Did you suckers who watched Dexter all the way through think the same thing there? Honestly the Dexter supporters were EVEN MORE DISTURBING, considering just how many people he killed, and the sort of insane logic that makes it okay to murder people just as long as they're "bad guys".
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Feb 24, 2015 19:00
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Don't we have this discussion every time the show comes up? Good Lord. Just because you've figured out that Walter isn't sympathetic doesn't make you a master of television. And yes, to some degree, the show is daring you and expecting you to route for him. Especially when he's up against child killer Gus and literal Nazi's.
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Feb 24, 2015 19:01
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PriorMarcus posted:Good Lord. Just because you've figured out that Walter isn't sympathetic doesn't make you a master of television. You would think so but no apparently it does.
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Feb 24, 2015 19:04
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Spatula City posted:Honestly the Dexter supporters were EVEN MORE DISTURBING, considering just how many people he killed, and the sort of insane logic that makes it okay to murder people just as long as they're "bad guys". Doesn't Dexter at some point say " Yeah I am loving terrible." After S2 there should be no doubt he's 100% scum who doesn't even try to justify what he does. I stopped watching after the terrible S5 so I don't know if he magically becomes some kind of anti hero though.
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PriorMarcus posted:Good Lord. Just because you've figured out that Walter isn't sympathetic doesn't make you a master of television. At least it shouldn't, when the show stops just short of flashing it on the screen in big bright letters.
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BillBear posted:Doesn't Dexter at some point say " Yeah I am loving terrible." After S2 there should be no doubt he's 100% scum who doesn't even try to justify what he does. I stopped watching after the terrible S5 so I don't know if he magically becomes some kind of anti hero though. The show is 100% in favour of Dexter. He's in full on anti-hero territory from Seeason Two onwards and he's final arc is about becoming a 'real boy' who suffers no real consequences for his actions and is in fact admired and rewarded for them. Then he becomes a lumberjack.
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EL BROMANCE posted:It was nice to see that The Mindy Project kind of worked itself out as a show in Season 2 and became something actually worth while... but is anyone else thinking it's starting to slip back down the slope again? Week in week out it seems to just be The Danny and Mindy Show and it's not been particularly entertaining because of it. Hope it gets out of the rut again, and starts doing more stuff with the other characters, pretty much all of whom are more interesting. That the show even has a current direction is testament to how far it's come. For me it didn't coalesce until the current season and to be totally honest it feels like this was what they were building to the whole series for better or worse. I'll agree that there's a lingering sense of incompletion and lack of depth but compared to the flighty morass of S1 and early S2 it's comparatively delightful. PriorMarcus posted:The show is 100% in favour of Dexter. He's in full on anti-hero territory from Seeason Two onwards and he's final arc is about becoming a 'real boy' who suffers no real consequences for his actions and is in fact admired and rewarded for them. I don't even think the show views him as an anti-hero at all. You are straight up supposed to root for Dexter and the show never gives you an alternative that isn't a worse motherfucker. Also they give semi-ethical outs to Dexter's ill behavior every season. It's really gross. SHVPS4DETH fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Feb 24, 2015 |
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Sober posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw5vcUPyL90 It's incredibly Joseph Kahn. So first impression is no, second is oh wait a second, third is a giant grin, and fourth is just the realization of how bat poo poo ambitious he can be (Detention, come on). Also, James Van Der Beek can sell anything. Even a Halo/Power Rangers mash-up. EDIT: You know what? I like that world. Dystopian sci fi, piggy backing off a sunnier sci fi series gone sour. Seeing how the main characters sell out to totilitarian forces, and how much background they share with each other. Also the fighting was cool. But maybe not with the Power Rangers though? Shageletic fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Feb 24, 2015 |
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raditts posted:Seriously, they make it crystal (lol) clear that he is not a good person and that you should not consider him a good person, and I'm only halfway through season 2. Do people seriously think you're supposed to root for him just because he's the main character? Did you suckers who watched Dexter all the way through think the same thing there? Reminder that Skylar White was unironically called Skycunt on these very forums.
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IRQ posted:Reminder that Skylar White was unironically called Skycunt on these very forums.
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It's possible to think he's not a good person, and still root for him just because he's fun to watch.  I didn't hate Skylar but I still liked Walt to some extent or another all the way up to the end.
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IRQ posted:Reminder that Skylar White was unironically called Skycunt on these very forums. Coincidentally, she's also often unironically called Skylar.
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Sober posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw5vcUPyL90  and yeah, it's tottally a Joseph Kahn/Adi Shankar joint in the best possible way.
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IRQ posted:Reminder that Skylar White was unironically called Skycunt on these very forums.  It's cool how everyone who's extremely offended by that word has continued to use it every chance they got for years after the people who hated Skyler got over it.
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Misogyny? That was just a phase. I got over it years ago. Lately I've been trying out racism.
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I'm not denying that some people hated Skyler because of misogyny, but the show did present her largely as an obstacle early on while it wanted the viewers to be on Walt's side. Later on it corrected that and presented her in a more sympathetic light, and some people who formerly hated her got over it/became sympathetic toward her, though obviously some did continue irrationally hating her. Regardless of why people hated her, or whether or not it was appropriate, the way people complaining about it for years after have continued to use that specific word when doing so really seems like they're getting a thrill out of saying something naughty.
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Sinteres posted:Regardless of why people hated her, or whether or not it was appropriate, the way people complaining about it for years after have continued to use that specific word when doing so really seems like they're getting a thrill out of saying something naughty. oval office oval office oval office, oval office oval office oval office, oval office oval office all the way It's not the word that's important here, it's the summation of the misogyny directed at a fictional character for simply doing what normal rational people would do and how crazy people get over Walter White.
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Never heard skycunt before. That's pretty funny.
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Aphrodite posted:Lately I've been trying out racism. Racism: half a star.
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Sinteres posted:I'm not denying that some people hated Skyler because of misogyny, but the show did present her largely as an obstacle early on while it wanted the viewers to be on Walt's side. Pretty much. I couldn't care less about Skyler's supposed cuntiness or lack thereof, but I hate that its now impossible to have a reasonable discussion about Skyler without a large contingent of posters foaming at the mouth about misogyny. EL BROMANCE posted:It was nice to see that The Mindy Project kind of worked itself out as a show in Season 2 and became something actually worth while... but is anyone else thinking it's starting to slip back down the slope again? Week in week out it seems to just be The Danny and Mindy Show and it's not been particularly entertaining because of it. Hope it gets out of the rut again, and starts doing more stuff with the other characters, pretty much all of whom are more interesting. The Mindy Project is getting a little too insular and sappy for my tastes. I don't think the doofy white guy is funny, and Mindy's relationship/pregnancy stuff doesn't interest me at all. I get that I'm not in the show's target demographic, but still, I definitely preferred the lighter, jokier version we had last year to whatever they're doing this season.
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Yeah but misogyny really sucks and it should make people angry.
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Cactus posted:Yeah but misogyny really sucks and it should make people angry. Why waste your energy impotently raging at people who don't care? Do you or anyone around you benefit when you jump into a topic, yelling "MISOGYNY"? Are you being an effective advocate for positive change when you derail every interesting conversation with social justice bullshit? How do you react when something appears offense? Do you instinctive shout "MISOGYNY," or do you consider the context and intent behind the message to gauge if its truly offensive?
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Cactus posted:Yeah but misogyny really sucks and it should make people angry. The rule of not responding to Irish Joe is occasionally not fair. But never respond to his posts about misogyny or "social justice bullshit." It'll get you nowhere.
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Aphrodite posted:Misogyny? That was just a phase. I got over it years ago. it's a more casual fit
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Feb 24, 2015 23:07
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PriorMarcus posted:Racism: half a star. Shouldn't racism get zero stars?
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zoux posted:Shouldn't racism get zero stars? Half a star is the lowest rating.
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But it's racism.
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Feb 24, 2015 23:12
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The only thing that gets zero stars is this discussion. Quit whining.
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zoux posted:But it's racism. Well we don't do zero stars. We had a long meeting about this.
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