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Fargin Icehole posted:I still want to see the regular combat for this game. It's the reason i keep going back to combat challenges in the arkham games.
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Fargin Icehole posted:I still want to see the regular combat for this game. It's the reason i keep going back to combat challenges in the arkham games. It is very very similar. The biggest difference at least so far are the environmental takedowns which are pretty fun and well-integrated. I was able to hop right in using skills from Arkham City with no difficulty at all.
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Feb 4, 2015 02:57
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Zsinjeh posted:Mastering the combat in Arkham City is the best feeling you can have in videogames. Jumping into a group of thugs, several of them armed with guns, and not breaking a sweat is Batman as gently caress. Especially rewarding that it's more or less completely based on your personal skill. Once you get good at it and quickly plan on your feet you shouldn't take any damage at all and keep a combo going indefinitely. I agree, that's what made me come back to it. At some point doing the challenges it taught me that If I have enough time, I can sneak in all the gadgets they gave me instead of just strongarming everything. Eventually, with enough time you get the hang of it and kinda start getting creative and preplan your attacks to lure thugs into your foam mines and poo poo. Instead of throwing the fire extinguisher back at the thug who threw it...Why not throw a batarang while he has it on his hands, and then do a loving dragon kick? How rocksteady has made this so seamless is the major reason why i keep coming back to it. It doesn't look like some Smackdown Wrestling game where all the animations are jerky and unrealistic.
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Feb 4, 2015 03:06
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thebardyspoon posted:You can do environmental takedowns (like throwing guys into electrical outlets or the ceiling fan which looks super deadly but apparently is not) Heh, sounds like somebody played Volition's 2005 Punisher game between Arkham installments.
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Feb 4, 2015 03:22
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Zsinjeh posted:Mastering the combat in Arkham City is the best feeling you can have in videogames. Jumping into a group of thugs, several of them armed with guns, and not breaking a sweat is Batman as gently caress. Especially rewarding that it's more or less completely based on your personal skill. Once you get good at it and quickly plan on your feet you shouldn't take any damage at all and keep a combo going indefinitely. This is even more true in Origins where the new enemy types force you to rely more on controlling the environment to engage the new special enemies, rather than just using the same 2 take downs to remove shields/weapons and group stun, then engaging like normal. Martial Artists, venom thugs, and brutes/armored brutes are awesome when you learn how to fight them.
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Zsinjeh posted:Mastering the combat in Arkham City is the best feeling you can have in videogames. Jumping into a group of thugs, several of them armed with guns, and not breaking a sweat is Batman as gently caress. Especially rewarding that it's more or less completely based on your personal skill. Once you get good at it and quickly plan on your feet you shouldn't take any damage at all and keep a combo going indefinitely. I love how, once everything clicked for me, I stopped trying to prevent thugs from unlocking the gun-cases and getting weapons, because it was easier to let them get their hands on the gun and then take it out of their hands and strip it down to parts in front of their horrified faces. The poor bastards see that and you know they're thinking,"Oh gently caress this, I wanna go home  "
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Feb 4, 2015 04:46
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Not that means a lot but the Arkham Knight prequel comic has a direct reference to Origins on its first issue http://herocomplex.latimes.com/comics/batman-arkham-knight-preview-bruce-wayne-heads-back-into-darkness/#/0
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Feb 24, 2015 03:58
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Feb 24, 2015 17:31
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Huuuuuh. I wonder what that means. I mean the previous games were not exactly tame. They were corpse-filled and violent and featured people being impaled or burned alive or other poo poo. Is it just additional gore?
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Feb 24, 2015 17:33
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I've seen "reports" (as in mentioned on a random podcast months ago) of Red Hood having lethal takedowns. Might be related to that?
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I've seen "reports" (as in mentioned on a random podcast months ago) of Red Hood having lethal takedowns. Might be related to that? It's hard to imagine they'd be willing to take a rating hit over DLC content like that. An M-rating does impact your sales. Plus The Joker had lethal takedowns in the PS3 Arkham and that didn't hit the rating at all. He straight up shot guys.
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Feb 24, 2015 17:50
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ImpAtom posted:It's hard to imagine they'd be willing to take a rating hit over DLC content like that. An M-rating does impact your sales. Is the Batman strong enough to overcome the malicious M?
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Feb 24, 2015 17:56
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It's probably super hosed up scarecrow stuff.
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Feb 24, 2015 18:04
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In a poignant moment, the Batman is anally raped by Harley Quinn. RATED M FOR MATURE
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Feb 24, 2015 18:05
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Batman finally defeats the Arkham Knight in hand to hand combat, and removes his mask, only to reveal that it was the Joker all along! Batman's response is a five minute long profanity filled rant about how he's so loving sick of this loving Joker oval office showing up all the goddamn time and it's so goddamn loving stupid.
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Feb 24, 2015 18:12
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"Rated M for Dismembered Corpses and ultra realistic bat-anuses ESRB can't handle Next Gen
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Feb 24, 2015 18:17
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God please don't let it be for sex stuff like bare boobs or people calling the female characters "bitches" even more than they used to
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Feb 24, 2015 18:19
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Rated M for bat suit nipples.
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Feb 24, 2015 18:19
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You guys know you want a proper Professor Pyg in this game and an M rating was the only way it would work.
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Feb 24, 2015 18:21
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I've seen "reports" (as in mentioned on a random podcast months ago) of Red Hood having lethal takedowns. Might be related to that? Didn't Deathstroke have some lethal-looking takedowns in Origins?
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Feb 24, 2015 18:26
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He was much more prone to using leg snaps, etc, (he'd even happily break the limbs of female combatants which Batman didn't do) but I don't think anything was "directly" letha.
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Feb 24, 2015 18:38
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ImpAtom posted:It's hard to imagine they'd be willing to take a rating hit over DLC content like that. An M-rating does impact your sales. Aren't Call of Duty games and GTA rated M? Because I am pretty sure they are and are also some of the better selling franchises across the board.
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Feb 24, 2015 18:55
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ToastyPotato posted:Aren't Call of Duty games and GTA rated M? Because I am pretty sure they are and are also some of the better selling franchises across the board. M doesn't mean your game sells bad but it does mean it sells worse than it would otherwise. It also depends on the type of game. Call of Duty is so hugely popular that isn't an issue for them but for something like Batman (which despite being grim-as-poo poo is marketed fairly hard to teenagers too) it is more unusual. Not completely unusual, I'm not saying it's shocking that it is rated M. Just that if it was about a particularly violent takedown in a DLC character they'd alter the takedown before they'd take an M hit, so it means it's probably something a bit more central.
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ImpAtom posted:M doesn't mean your game sells bad but it does mean it sells worse than it would otherwise. It also depends on the type of game. Call of Duty is so hugely popular that isn't an issue for them but for something like Batman (which despite being grim-as-poo poo is marketed fairly hard to teenagers too) it is more unusual. Not completely unusual, I'm not saying it's shocking that it is rated M. Just that if it was about a particularly violent takedown in a DLC character they'd alter the takedown before they'd take an M hit, so it means it's probably something a bit more central. Sefton Hill posted:"From our point of view, we never wrote it or made it with a rating in mind. We never did that in the previous two games... We just felt that this is the story that we really wanted to tell." Yeah, it's something from the story.
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Crappy Jack posted:Batman finally defeats the Arkham Knight in hand to hand combat, and removes his mask, only to reveal that it was the Joker all along! This is the most plausible theory I've seen so far.
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Feb 24, 2015 22:36
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I do remember the Joker straight up shot people at point-blank range in some of the Origins cutscenes, does that sort of thing not count towards the ratings because it's not the player doing it?
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Mzbundifund posted:I do remember the Joker straight up shot people at point-blank range in some of the Origins cutscenes, does that sort of thing not count towards the ratings because it's not the player doing it? Videogame ratings are infamously subjective (they're hard to make objective, honestly) but yes, player control is a major factor in how a given violent action is perceived/rated.
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Crappy Jack posted:Batman finally defeats the Arkham Knight in hand to hand combat, and removes his mask, only to reveal that it was the Joker all along! The epilogue is Batman lifting out Joker's coffin, and...
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ImpAtom posted:M doesn't mean your game sells bad but it does mean it sells worse than it would otherwise. It also depends on the type of game. Call of Duty is so hugely popular that isn't an issue for them but for something like Batman (which despite being grim-as-poo poo is marketed fairly hard to teenagers too) it is more unusual. Not completely unusual, I'm not saying it's shocking that it is rated M. Just that if it was about a particularly violent takedown in a DLC character they'd alter the takedown before they'd take an M hit, so it means it's probably something a bit more central. Batman and comics in general can have trouble with ratings, since they're generally assumed to be for kids by the general public. I remember leaving The Dark Knight assuming it was rated R. It wasn't until weeks later I found out it was PG-13, and I could hardly believe it.
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^^^ When Batman Returns was released, there was a small outcry about McDonald's packaging Batman merch with their happy meals since Burton's films definitely weren't for kids.Discendo Vox posted:Videogame ratings are infamously subjective (they're hard to make objective, honestly) but yes, player control is a major factor in how a given violent action is perceived/rated. Joker was playable in asylum (and origins) and one of his gadgets was a gun he'd straight up murder people with. I'm guessing the M rating will come from gnarlier gore. The arkham games definitely had violence, murder and corpses but it was usually very clean. hard counter fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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I bet there's a Bruce Wayne love interest, complete with love scene, who is later killed by Arkham Knight. They always have to throw in a Wayne love interest at some point in a story. (the love scene is what gives the M)
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Feb 25, 2015 13:05
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Perhaps the love interest is the Arkham Knight?
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Well if Jason Todd is in the game, it seems likely they could have a flashback to how the whole Robin thing ended up for him. Batman tripping balls on scarecrow juice and reliving his kid sidekick getting destroyed with a crowbar would be pretty massively hosed up and could warrant an m rating.
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poptart_fairy posted:Perhaps the love interest is the Arkham Knight? I doubt they'd completely steal the Mask of the Phantasm plot, but you never know. EDIT: In that vein, anyone have any recommendations for good animated Batman movies? My kids love Phantasm, the one with Mr. Freeze, and the one with the Red Hood. What others are good so I don't have to cycle those 3 anymore? Orgophlax fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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The Dark Knight Rises. 
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Batman gets a call from Gordon, he turns up at the Bat Signal on the roof to talk, and sees Gordon's silhouette. Mid way through the conversation Gordon's voice distorts, a slight chuckle, then into outright laughter. Then the Joker steps forward out of the shadow, wearing Gordon's head. Rated M for Mature.
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Orgophlax posted:I doubt they'd completely steal the Mask of the Phantasm plot, but you never know. Those are pretty much all the good ones.
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blackguy32 posted:Those are pretty much all the good ones. Mystery of the Batwoman was pretty good. So was Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
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Orgophlax posted:I doubt they'd completely steal the Mask of the Phantasm plot, but you never know. The Dark Knight Returns movie was actually pretty well done. I can suggest that. Peter Weller as Bruce Wayne / Batman can be a little offputting at first though. Also the animated movie about the Flashpoint alternate universe heavily features the Flashpoint Batman, Thomas Wayne, and was a pretty good one. Those two for sure.
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Sweet new trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCQipBbeRo&feature=youtu.be
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