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Burkion posted:Except why have it be grim dark at all? A lot of the older Super Sentai works basically follow something similar where some strange threat appears and a group of 3-5 people aided by technology or magic or whatever are the only ones who can stop this threat from doing whatever the gently caress it's planning. Adding guns and tits and violence doesn't make something Serious and Mature. Only a child would think that. Dealing with the consequences of actions or the realities of life is what makes it Serious and Mature.
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Xelkelvos posted:A lot of the older Super Sentai works basically follow something similar where some strange threat appears and a group of 3-5 people aided by technology or magic or whatever are the only ones who can stop this threat from doing whatever the gently caress it's planning. Adding guns and tits and violence doesn't make something Serious and Mature. Only a child would think that. Dealing with the consequences of actions or the realities of life is what makes it Serious and Mature. And we've looped back around to why the Nolan flicks didn't actually do anything all that interesting with the concept of Batman. It was great at presenting Batman as something kinda-maybe-almost plausible, but then rarely following through on the ridiculous implications of what it presented in favor of "hey don't you want to see (fan thing) done in NOLAN STYLE?" On a similar note the Star Wars Prequels, for all the deserved poo poo they get, at least made a first draft attempt at being about the politics of a Republic and how a Fascist State could be formed. A "serious and mature" take on Sentai would involve the child soldiers angle and be about "boring" things like the politics of government and intergalatic alien factions, the role of media in engaging these Sentai characters, and how such fallout affects their personal lives and relationships, with fights to punctuate things like musical numbers. Played right with rival Sentai characters for the other armies and it could actually be pretty interesting, almost Game of Thrones-y with an even more basic "Allegiances to one of several Houses" angle to it to keep the soap operatics fresh and engaging. Violence and Sex don't even enter the equation except as flavor.
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Feb 25, 2015 00:32
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mind the walrus posted:And we've looped back around to why the Nolan flicks didn't actually do anything all that interesting with the concept of Batman. It was great at presenting Batman as something kinda-maybe-almost plausible, but then rarely following through on the ridiculous implications of what it presented in favor of "hey don't you want to see (fan thing) done in NOLAN STYLE?" On a similar note the Star Wars Prequels, for all the deserved poo poo they get, at least made a first draft attempt at being about the politics of a Republic and how a Fascist State could be formed. I wouldn't say other armies really. Multiple factions, yes. But armies are a bit much. Aping Kamen Rider Gaim's set up is closer to what a Mature version of Power Rangers might be and it's still as toyetic as any other Rider series.
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Feb 25, 2015 00:45
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Xelkelvos posted:I wouldn't say other armies really. Multiple factions, yes. But armies are a bit much. Aping Kamen Rider Gaim's set up is closer to what a Mature version of Power Rangers might be and it's still as toyetic as any other Rider series. Well factions in general. I kept thinking of "the Machine Army" while I was writing that. My point stands.
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Feb 25, 2015 00:53
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Xelkelvos posted:A lot of the older Super Sentai works basically follow something similar where some strange threat appears and a group of 3-5 people aided by technology or magic or whatever are the only ones who can stop this threat from doing whatever the gently caress it's planning. Adding guns and tits and violence doesn't make something Serious and Mature. Only a child would think that. Dealing with the consequences of actions or the realities of life is what makes it Serious and Mature. There's some pages from Flex Mentallo that perfectly explain that dichotomy
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Feb 25, 2015 00:54
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mind the walrus posted:Well factions in general. I kept thinking of "the Machine Army" while I was writing that. My point stands. IMO, there'd be three sets at most. One is the main team with stuff from an otherwise benevolent source. There's a military based group and then there's a private group whose source is questionable or at best, unknown. Any more characters and the plot couldn't support them adequately given that it would be hard enough to support one team.
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Feb 25, 2015 01:04
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mind the walrus posted:A "serious and mature" take on Sentai would involve the child soldiers angle and be about "boring" things like the politics of government and intergalatic alien factions, the role of media in engaging these Sentai characters, and how such fallout affects their personal lives and relationships, with fights to punctuate things like musical numbers. Played right with rival Sentai characters for the other armies and it could actually be pretty interesting, almost Game of Thrones-y with an even more basic "Allegiances to one of several Houses" angle to it to keep the soap operatics fresh and engaging. Violence and Sex don't even enter the equation except as flavor. In contrast, the best Power Rangers movie we've had so far (Pacific Rim) showed how giant punchfights with monsters could be funny.
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Feb 25, 2015 01:08
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mind the walrus posted:I imagine blood n' tits. Standard stuff. I only watched the Vimeo version but I imagine the YT version didn't feature the Black Ranger in bed with 2 very buxom naked women. I watched a YT version and it did feature two buxom ladies in bed with the Black Ranger. It also credited Bree Olson as Divatox and Amia Miley as Scorpina. Oh Katee Sackoff, why do you always have to play straight roles turn weird where you're actually something else altogether for no reason
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Feb 25, 2015 01:29
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Hey Podcasters With Attitude guys, how about a bonus episode on Kamen Rider Dragon Knight? That should be good for getting Burk to burst a blood vessel or two. 
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SilentChaz posted:Hey Podcasters With Attitude guys, how about a bonus episode on Kamen Rider Dragon Knight? That should be good for getting Burk to burst a blood vessel or two. If it'll make Burk angry, then I vote yes. Do I get to drink beforehand, or do I have to do it sober?
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Feb 25, 2015 01:47
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jivjov posted:If it'll make Burk angry, then I vote yes. Do I get to drink beforehand, or do I have to do it sober? I say that's your call. I don't know how good/bad Dragon Knight is exactly though. I haven't heard much about it other than it exists.
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Cernunnos posted:I say that's your call. I don't know how good/bad Dragon Knight is exactly though. I haven't heard much about it other than it exists. It has mark Dacascos, so it is good.
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Liar Lyre posted:It has mark Dacascos, so it is good. The cunning Wing Commander IV argument.
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Feb 25, 2015 02:57
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FilthyImp posted:It was mostly a joke, but SPD is actually, like, a law enforcement outfit. I think there's a few scenes of Delta Red harassing street criminals and poo poo in the series run. I actually watched a few episodes of Dekaranger, the Super Sentai series SPD is based on. Turns out the whole "Capture Card" capabilities of the rangers' weapons was an English invention; it seemed like such a Japanese thing to do, collecting all the criminal cards and such. It's a little chilling watching the Japanese version and realizing that the rangers instead are literally executing criminals in the streets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSSV3J1zoCI Doggles fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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Yeah- though I tend to roll my eyes at times when they are actively NOT killing the monsters they're fighting, SPD made the correct call given what they're supposed to be. Super Sentai isn't about Judge loving Dredd so they shouldn't share his morality. And unless the Dekaranger villains were WAY more inhuman than the SPD lot, that's pretty hair raising.
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JT Smiley posted:I've never seen a fan film with a bigger star attached to it than the actual property has ever had, that's so weird. The producer is actually Adi Shankar, who is a major producer (he was one of the executive producers on Dredd) so it's not too shocking the values are decent. He's produced a couple of other short fan-films like this one and usually manages to do the whole "wow this person's more famous than I would have figured" role for each of them. Like the one about the Punisher where he got Thomas Jane from the '04 movie to play the part. I thought the dialog was hokey but enjoyable. Although I really would've loved more like that one fight scene.
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Yeah I didn't hate that fan thing. It's dumb but it's probably less dumb than an actual hollywood take on the concept would have been. I mean at least I got to see a power ranger cut people and blood came out! The audio levels were pretty uneven and some of the dialog was awful but it's still about 90000% less embarrassing than watching an actual episode of Power Rangers*. *because like, there's no retarded accent monster or intentionally obnoxious character or alpha 5
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Light Gun Man posted:*because like, there's no retarded accent monster or intentionally obnoxious character or alpha 5 SPD executes a dude based on 'strong arm' robbery and the body position shows he was probably shot in the back? gently caress guys, that Officer Wilson was probably an SPD cadet and that dude really DiD show his Hulk Hogan Demon Side.
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Feb 25, 2015 09:09
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That's why there were radio logs of him going "poo poo. He's not exploding and growing to giant size. poo poo."
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Aren't the judges of the Ultimate Courthouse they request authorization from basically omnipotent? I thought that was how it worked.
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Cernunnos posted:I say that's your call. I don't know how good/bad Dragon Knight is exactly though. I haven't heard much about it other than it exists. It's better then Saban's Masked Rider, but that's not saying a whole lot.
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I never really understood the capture card thing. Power Rangers have been blowing up monsters for over ten years at that point. It would make more sense in Dekaranger where the monsters were just alien criminals, but the majority of SPD's MOTW were just drawings brought to life.
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JT Smiley posted:I never really understood the capture card thing. Power Rangers have been blowing up monsters for over ten years at that point. It would make more sense in Dekaranger where the monsters were just alien criminals, but the majority of SPD's MOTW were just drawings brought to life. There's the  of Police Brutality, even with the fantasy backdrop.
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Feb 25, 2015 15:27
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I just remembered SPD was a Disney season. They even censored Shadow Rangers finishing move.
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JT Smiley posted:I just remembered SPD was a Disney season. They even censored Shadow Rangers finishing move. Yeah for as bad as censorship could be with Saban, which to be fair they were getting pretty drat lax by Time Force- Disney brought in a whole new draconian wave of bullshit. Not helped that it was post 9/11 and all that.
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Cease and desist letters have been sent. Which is so incredibly stupid, the film makers aren't profiting from Power/Rangers, and it can only generate interest in the upcoming movie (because people are dumb, and will think they are related). Saban are morons.
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Well I'm glad I downloaded a copy yesterday then. Was there any difference between the vimeo version and the YouTube one?
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Not surprised Sabin continues their lovely monopoly when they sent a C+D to a sentai fan game.
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jivjov posted:Well I'm glad I downloaded a copy yesterday then. Was there any difference between the vimeo version and the YouTube one? I heard the vimeo version has boobs when Zack is in bed with the ladies.
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JT Smiley posted:I heard the vimeo version has boobs when Zack is in bed with the ladies. Huh. Well how 'bout that then.
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jivjov posted:Well I'm glad I downloaded a copy yesterday then. Was there any difference between the vimeo version and the YouTube one? Big rear end titties
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I was with my brother and his kids over the weekend at Toys R Us, and apparently they released a Legacy White Tigerzord at some point. The side of the box has it combined with the saber tooth tiger/triceratops from the Legacy Megazord so I guess that means we're not getting a Legacy Thunderzord?
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Tae posted:Not surprised Sabin continues their lovely monopoly when they sent a C+D to a sentai fan game. What ever happened to that game? I really wanted to play it 
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:What ever happened to that game? I really wanted to play it Its still being worked on. Just slowly.
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jivjov posted:Its still being worked on. Just slowly. Wait, really? *checks kickstarter* oh hell yeah, hope they reach an April release.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Wait, really? *checks kickstarter* oh hell yeah, hope they reach an April release. Also they update their own forum more often then the Kickstarter page
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jivjov posted:Also they update their own forum more often then the Kickstarter page I'm at the excitement level where i'd rather just know they didn't go under and a vague release date than any other info. I'm just gonna keep this on the back of my mind until May comes and Chroma Squad is or isn't out.
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Burkion posted:Yeah- though I tend to roll my eyes at times when they are actively NOT killing the monsters they're fighting, SPD made the correct call given what they're supposed to be. SpiderHyphenMan posted:Aren't the judges of the Ultimate Courthouse they request authorization from basically omnipotent? I thought that was how it worked. As far as I remember, the executed criminals in Dekaranger were mass murderers who had already been given their death sentences. The whole 'Judgement Scanner' thing was more about confirming identity than anything else. There's even a few times where the Dekarangers think they've found their MOTW and used the scanner only to find that wasn't the criminal they were looking for.
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Good god, we've been talking about POWER/RANGERS for a solid 45 minutes now.
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jivjov posted:Good god, we've been talking about POWER/RANGERS for a solid 45 minutes now. YEAH WE DID
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