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p-hop posted:edit: beaten on the fact that it's a button not a port Same, though I took one step further and plugged the cassette adapter into a Bluetooth adapter (which, in turn, is bluffed into my cigarette lighter USB adapter). It's super convoluted, but it works like a charm.
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twistedmentat posted:For the record, It was so I could listen to CDs while playing games. Sorta similar: Bleem, a PS1 emulator for Windows, was planned for a commercial release on the Dreamcast. Original idea was that a single bootdisc would let you run any PS1 game, but as it turned out, pretty much every PS1 game required its own pile of weird hacks to run properly on the DC, so they instead decided to release a series of discs that'd provide support for a hundred games each. That didn't pan out either, and by the time they folded out of existence due to the mounting expense of defending themselves against Sony in court, all they'd managed to get to market was a trio of bootdiscs for individual games (Gran Turismo 2, Metal Gear Solid and Tekken 3). Woulda been really interesting to see the outcome of that lawsuit.
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Sappo569 posted:Did I hear mention of PCMCIA ? Now that's just the most bizarre poo poo I've seen in a while! Not only has PCMCIA not been a thing for years, why would you even want it in a car in the first place? Although now that I think about it, I used to have an external CD drive for an ancient laptop that connected via PCMCIA...
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Even more bizarre, I think that picture is a PCMCIA / compact flash adapter. But think of it as an SD slot in an stock radio in a car from 2011 and it sounds pretty good. Good thing, too, because that audio system looks like a pain in the rear end to replace.
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Those arent that obsolete. I was using one to play my iPod and then my phone through an old boombox in my workshop until a couple years ago. If you want really obsolete car tech, you want the converter that let you play cassettes in your car's 8 track player. stealie72 has a new favorite as of 12:58 on Mar 1, 2015 |
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I recently bought a new tape adaptor at Walmart. They even had two to choose from, a Scosche branded one in the car audio area and an RCA version for a few dollars less in the check out line. There are tons of cars on the road with tape decks so the adapters will be with us for a while.
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Coffee And Pie posted:The worst stereos are the ones made after cassette decks, but before AUX/Bluetooth became popular, where your only options are a CD or the radio. Every car stereo I've ever owned including every after market one I've bought since the 90s, and every factory fitted stereo in every car I've bought up to 2007  The Twinkie Czar posted:Even more bizarre, I think that picture is a PCMCIA / compact flash adapter. But think of it as an SD slot in an stock radio in a car from 2011 and it sounds pretty good.
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Mar 1, 2015 13:51
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They probably couldn't decide on a memory format and saw PCMCIA as way to make one slot adaptable to different formats, maybe even different uses. This guy shows it working with generic SD and micro SD adapters and here's a Mercedes compact flash adapter: It's really a cool combination of being bizarre and obsolete but also easily adapted to a modern format.
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The Twinkie Czar posted:Even more bizarre, I think that picture is a PCMCIA / compact flash adapter. But think of it as an SD slot in an stock radio in a car from 2011 and it sounds pretty good. Man, cars for yeeeaars have been designing the radio and other systems as parts of the dash, making it incredibly hard, if not impossible, to really do anything aftermarket. Vehicles are built so much to be disposable. Something break and out of the 3? year warranty? Scrap it and get something new!What do vehicles even come with nowdays?
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Mar 1, 2015 14:28
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Touchscreens and they're even more integrated into the dash. All those input options look awesome but I hope it never breaks.
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well, I meant as far as warranties go, but yes, can you imagine picking up a used one of those 10 years down the line and trying to replace/fix some dash part?
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Johnny Aztec posted:Man, cars for yeeeaars have been designing the radio and other systems as parts of the dash, making it incredibly hard, if not impossible, to really do anything aftermarket. I didn't like the lovely factory stereo i got with my car., but the newer series had a nice touchscreen, dual zone aircon, bluetooth, nav and other goodies like CD ripping. So I took it upon myself to aquire the dash of the new one, reflash the stereo to talk to the BCM (and report correct VIN), spoof the HVAC to work, then later implemented the motors and temp sensors. I kinda went overboard. All I wanted initially was MP3 and still retain steerwheel controls.
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Johnny Aztec posted:well, I meant as far as warranties go, but yes, can you imagine picking up a used one of those 10 years down the line and trying to replace/fix some dash part? Why wouldn't you? I'm sure you can still buy a new factory screen or stereo or whatever.
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Humphreys posted:I didn't like the lovely factory stereo i got with my car., but the newer series had a nice touchscreen, dual zone aircon, bluetooth, nav and other goodies like CD ripping. How much did that cost you? Throatwarbler posted:Why wouldn't you? I'm sure you can still buy a new factory screen or stereo or whatever. Still going to be a bitch and a half with how integrated everything is. Sure, it all works now, but 10 years down the line, some piece starts going wonky and it'll be hell to track down, etc etc. Mostly, it all just won't be worth bothering with. Cars barely hold any value, and beyond that the systems just aren't designed to BE fixed. The windshield wiper motor is routed through the bit that goes 'DING DING" when you have the door open. Take that out, whoops, no wipers. I had a car once that was a bit messed up. Somehow, having my headlight switch to off caused all interior power to cut out. No inside lights, no power steering. It did that twice, and then never again. Just saying that they aren't built/designed to be used for that long, but they will. and people will heap curses of a thousand tigers apund the manufacturers head. Johnny Aztec has a new favorite as of 15:27 on Mar 1, 2015 |
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These days I find that I only really listen to the radio in the car, because I never listen to the radio anywhere else so it's kind of a novelty for me, and also I have so many other opportunities to listen to podcasts/music/whatever outside of the car that I have little desire to do so in the car when I'm driving. I mean the radio is mostly boring poo poo but on the other hand it won't distract me. I guess I just don't drive as much as most people.
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I spend a lot of my time driving and I'd be lost without the usb port on my stereo. The idea of a touchscreen to control stereo etc is a mixture of horrifying and baffling to me- I know my way round my current head unit entirely by feel and basically never look at it, and I know that a touchscreen would prove very distracting. Before this head unit I had one of those FM transmitters to my MP3 player and the amount of gain staging trying to balance the volume without clipping is not something I'll be missing any time soon.
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twistedmentat posted:For the record, It was so I could listen to CDs while playing games. There was a big-rear end box that plugged into the back of the Commodore 64 that enabled it to run Apple software but judging by the size of it it was probably pretty much just an Apple clone that used the 64 as a keyboard? 
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Those FM broadcasters for your ipod are terrible if you live in a large area. There will be so many other radio signals, it will be hard to find one thats not overlapping with a commercial radio station. I remember people back before Bleem was coming out there were people who honestly belived that it would render the console wars at an end because everyone will just get bleem and a DC and play everything. Jerry Cotton posted:There was a big-rear end box that plugged into the back of the Commodore 64 that enabled it to run Apple software but judging by the size of it it was probably pretty much just an Apple clone that used the 64 as a keyboard? Haha, that's almost exactly what that probably is.
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The talk about copying games on C64 reminded me of "cracktros". If you got a hacked C64 game more than likely you'd get something like this before the actual title screen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2spUhKc9k It originally started as people hacking their names into high score boards, then it grew into elaborate intros, then finally people realized the intros were way cooler than the games and started the demoscene, which is a bunch of people doing crazy poo poo with computers and game consoles.
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Zeether posted:The talk about copying games on C64 reminded me of "cracktros". If you got a hacked C64 game more than likely you'd get something like this before the actual title screen: Oh man I loved those. It seemed the wavy text was a thing every intro had. Amiga ones were beautiful. Demo scene is still alive and well, last I checked.
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Zeether posted:The talk about copying games on C64 reminded me of "cracktros". If you got a hacked C64 game more than likely you'd get something like this before the actual title screen: I can't stop laughing at "DICK PUSSY". It's just so out of nowhere.
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The only obsolescence proof car entertainment is an empty DIN enclosure. Updating my 45 year old car with a Bluetooth headunit took ten minutes. Imagine having one of today's cars in ten years time - you'll probably have a useless integral touchscreen which doesn't recognise whatever passes for a smartphone in 2025.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Jason Scott did two really good talks about the history of software pirates: This was great, thanks for linking it!
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mobby_6kl posted:Now that's just the most bizarre poo poo I've seen in a while! Not only has PCMCIA not been a thing for years, why would you even want it in a car in the first place? Although now that I think about it, I used to have an external CD drive for an ancient laptop that connected via PCMCIA... I found it bizarre as hell too, doubly so considering the audio unit has a built in hard drive which allows you to rip music directly from cd's and store it onto the hdd. Mind you the PCMCIA option works quite well for what it is, right now I have a 16gb memory card in it with all my music. Then we get into more bizarre technology in the car, like how it has bluetooth but no audio streaming (but my 2010 mazda did)
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Humphreys posted:I didn't like the lovely factory stereo i got with my car., but the newer series had a nice touchscreen, dual zone aircon, bluetooth, nav and other goodies like CD ripping. I'm planning on doing something similar once Fiat starts offering Android Auto. Hopefully not that crazy though.
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Horace posted:The only obsolescence proof car entertainment is an empty DIN enclosure. Updating my 45 year old car with a Bluetooth headunit took ten minutes. Imagine having one of today's cars in ten years time - you'll probably have a useless integral touchscreen which doesn't recognise whatever passes for a smartphone in 2025. What irritates me is that for a low spec car, it makes more sense to use a third party head unit during manufacturing. Yet the mfrs use something proprietary that is inferior.
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Jerry Cotton posted:There was a big-rear end box that plugged into the back of the Commodore 64 that enabled it to run Apple software but judging by the size of it it was probably pretty much just an Apple clone that used the 64 as a keyboard? Funny bit of trivia about Mimic Systems, my dad was their last American employee after everyone else got busted for tax evasion and copyright infringement. He worked in shipping/receiving, and thus wasn't on the hook for any shady dealings. He worked in the warehouse by himself for 6 months, shipping out any stock to orders to Canada since they weren't allowed to sell anything in the US anymore. I'm pretty sure he still has a giant box of paper folders with the company logo on them in storage.
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Mr. Yuk posted:I'm pretty sure he still has a giant box of paper folders with the company logo on them in storage. That's because he was actually the master mind behind it all.
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There was a Mac emulator for the Amiga the required actual physical Macintosh ROM-chips hooked up for legal reasons, and an external Apple floppy drive if you wanted to use any software. The cracked version used dumped ROMs instead  
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El Estrago Bonito posted:About an infamous early computer criminal This one is fantastic, because the first 'real" ISP I ever had was IQuest. I don't remember hearing anything about this in 2000, which is weird as I believe I was still a subscriber there at the time.
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Enos Shenk posted:This one is fantastic, because the first 'real" ISP I ever had was IQuest. I don't remember hearing anything about this in 2000, which is weird as I believe I was still a subscriber there at the time. Good ol' IQuest. My brother and I decided on mrbungle as our login and I think we had the service starting around 94 or 95 and my parents were still using it around 2000 or so since they were out in the country at the time.
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Humphreys posted:I didn't like the lovely factory stereo i got with my car., but the newer series had a nice touchscreen, dual zone aircon, bluetooth, nav and other goodies like CD ripping. You are awesome. Where did you find the resources (roms and recovery I'd assume) to do all that?
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I guess not technically obsolete, this is one of the first projects I worked on our of college: BMW iDrive. We did the hardware, Alps and BMW did the software interface. Force feedback knobs with effects. The idea was that you could use a single knobs to control everything and the force feedback would provide you with enough information to do it without taking your eyes off the road. Our prototype rocked, their implementation sucked, the press hated it. On the plus side, I did get to drive one of the first 7 series with it installed for a little while. We also made a similar rotary force feedback implementation on the first Gen ipod:  Which I thought totally rocked, but apple turned us down on the basis of power consumption. Proust Malone has a new favorite as of 02:33 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Ron Jeremy posted:I guess not technically obsolete, this is one of the first projects I worked on our of college: Have never used iDrive, but it looks similar to Mercedes Comand knob. One scroll wheel that controls everything works quite well, how did BMW manage to gently caress it up?
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Ron Jeremy posted:I guess not technically obsolete, this is one of the first projects I worked on our of college: That haptic feedback worked incredibly well if you could train your brain to think like a German. Which I did. I could navigate to anything without taking my eyes off the road. The new system has a bunch of buttons and the touchpad on top, and it is actually harder to use. The worst thing is now so many cars have capacitive touch buttons and strange non capacitive touch screens with either no or terrible feedback and you basically can't use any of it without taking your eyes off the road. Hopefully voice command matures and replaces any other driver interfaces. The new poo poo BMW is rumored to have with in car motion detection just seems ten steps in the wrong direction.
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All this car chat reminds me when I read something about the 'cool new' technology Cadillac was going to put into their car. A seat shaker/vibration for when the car senses something (usually from behind/side) to warn you. I thought to myself EXCELLENT idea, a car usually driven by geriatrics will now vibrate if they're about to hit something, causing them to poo poo their pants and have a stroke.
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Jerry Cotton posted:There was a big-rear end box that plugged into the back of the Commodore 64 that enabled it to run Apple software but judging by the size of it it was probably pretty much just an Apple clone that used the 64 as a keyboard?
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I'm going to charitably assume that it at least uses the C64's own 6502.
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Sappo569 posted:All this car chat reminds me when I read something about the 'cool new' technology Cadillac was going to put into their car. The GM smart seat is pretty rad. I think it works better for some things than audio cues.
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