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Sappo569 posted:Have never used iDrive, but it looks similar to Mercedes Comand knob. We did a scroll wheel for Nissan that looked like a mouse wheel. It was supposed to go on the steering wheel, but it never went anywhere.
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Ron Jeremy posted:We did a scroll wheel for Nissan that looked like a mouse wheel. It was supposed to go on the steering wheel, but it never went anywhere. Sounds like you need to do an A/T thread I'd love to hear stories about large automotive manufacturers throwing probably millions of dollars at something then scrapping it
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John Big Booty posted:The Apple II also used the 6502.  Jerry Cotton guessed that the Apple  emulator used the host C64's keyboard and nothing else; my point was that it could hopefully at least use the host's 6502 instead of a redundant one of its own.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Uh, yes, that's the idea.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Jerry Cotton guessed that the Apple They used a mime in the ads but it sounds like licensing Frankenstein's Monster would have been way more appropriate.
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 And that's 1986? I would have guessed '83, '84 at the latest.
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Ron Jeremy posted:I guess not technically obsolete, this is one of the first projects I worked on our of college: I feel compelled to add here that the rotary knob interface is a perfectly reasonable idea and that more and more car makers are actually implementing it, Mazda being the most recent. When it first debuted in the BMW 7 series from about 15 years ago, the problem was that: 1) The BMW 7 series was just a horrible, unreliable, shoddily built car. Everything mechanical could barely hold together for the length of the warranty period before falling apart, the actual software that the rotary knob was supposed to control froze all the time (again, the knob was never the problem), and the electrical system was both badily built and also extremely sensitive to being jump started - the battery was some special BMW proprietary thing that only the dealer could do anything with so you just can't jump it,often some minor electrical fault would drain the battery, and then the owner would try to boost it with another car, which broke the car completely. 2) Car reviews and magazines panned it because it had a fairly steep learning curve and was not intuitive to someone who was not use to it. This is unfair, since they are not selling the car to car reviewers who drive a different car each week. Once the operator got use to the system, which of course any owner would after some time, it worked well and was superior to other interfaces because you could operate it completely by feel without taking your eyes off the road. EDIT: Gentleman function.  This allows the driver to control the passenger seat controls, so you could recline the passenger seatback for some surprise sexytime, or more mundanely move the passenger seat forward to give the rear seat passengers more legroom. Throatwarbler has a new favorite as of 07:27 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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The Twinkie Czar posted:Even more bizarre, I think that picture is a PCMCIA / compact flash adapter. But think of it as an SD slot in an stock radio in a car from 2011 and it sounds pretty good. Lots of mid-late 2000s Japanese market Nissans had CF slots.  You pretty much need to learn Japanese to work the radio though as there is no way of changing the display language (without replacing the entire thing with th setup from a US market model)
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My dad drives a Japanese imported Nissan Teana. It comes with a built-in GPS system, Nissan CarWings, which would be great if it didn't only have a map of Japan, in Japanese. Setting the radio was an absolute nightmare of guesswork. Still, the passenger seat has a footrest in it like a reclining armchair, which is great.
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Johnny Aztec posted:How much did that cost you? About $1500 total. I was in one of my 'I ain't stopping til I get things exactly how I like it' moods for a week after purchasing. I now have a few auto electricians that hire me on the side to do the same job. And I sell a few bits and bobs required for hilarious markups! ReidRansom posted:I'm planning on doing something similar once Fiat starts offering Android Auto. Hopefully not that crazy though. Be careful, it's a slippery slope, study it intensely then study again, then measure every conceivable bit of trim and framework required incase ONE SINGLE ITEM IS 5mm TOO LONG! Mooktastical posted:You are awesome. Where did you find the resources (roms and recovery I'd assume) to do all that? It started with sniffing data on the GMLAN to figure out how the steering wheel controls worked and if I could integrate those signals into a tablet or aftermarket HU, went down the rabbit hole and poked at a lot of poo poo. Then theory crafted how it might work. Dumped ROMs from the original HU, Facia and HVAC then compared how they talked to each other and what data was on what. Ended with facia pairs to main unit, main unit talks to HVAC for controls and vent motor positioning, BCM talks to it all asking 'stuff' and VIN numbers. From there, repeat the process on a friends car that had what I wanted, then figured the horrible way the manufacturer tried to hide the VIN numbers, probed the wiring loom for differences (10-12 from memory) then created an adaptor loom and plugged it in hoping. After making sure it worked - I bought the bits I needed. It really pissed off the missus to no end though.
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The Twinkie Czar posted:With Super Hits of Some Decade collections I get the appeal. Maybe it's all on iTunes but what if they can't remember the correct name of the performer, album, or song? Or they remember the name of the band but find that they put out a dozen albums and don't want to sort through them all to find their two big hits? And they can't form a decent google search, they can't figure out an mp3 player, they like physical media, they think burned cds are tacky, they . . .gently caress it. Just buy granddad the cds so he can read the liner notes and rock out to 1910 Fruitgum Company. I'm pretty sure these compilations are on iTunes as well and Spotify has them too. Hell, Spotify makes their own playlists with themes like "50s diner jukebox" and such.
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Zeether posted:The talk about copying games on C64 reminded me of "cracktros". If you got a hacked C64 game more than likely you'd get something like this before the actual title screen: you gonna love this hungarian (subtitled) docu then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRkZcTg1JWU
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Humphreys posted:About $1500 total. I was in one of my 'I ain't stopping til I get things exactly how I like it' moods for a week after purchasing. I now have a few auto electricians that hire me on the side to do the same job. And I sell a few bits and bobs required for hilarious markups! Christ, and I thought I had it tough when I had to cut part of my dash off to fit my new head unit into the DIN in my Cavalier.
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Throatwarbler posted:
As a frequent business traveler and car renter, I loving hate iDrive. Even the newer implementations of it. When you're driving a car that's not your own in an unfamiliar area in a country that drives on the wrong side fo the road, the absolute last thing I want to gently caress with is a user interface that requires me to look at an LCD screen in order to accomplish anything with it. And the only way inputting addresses into the navigation system could be more annoying is if it beeped at you, like vi does. quote:See? Look at that mess. Navigate through multiple menus to adjust the lumbar support, or just slide my hand down to the side of my seat and push the inflate/deflate buttons like in other cars. Phanatic has a new favorite as of 17:08 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Ron Jeremy posted:The idea was that you could use a single knobs to control everything and the force feedback would provide you with enough information to do it without taking your eyes off the road. There's also no way to turn off the screen; selecting the option just displays shimmery LCD "black", which is somehow more distracting than the actual default menu view. Sham bam bamina! has a new favorite as of 19:16 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I'm wondering how this would even be possible, since iDrive buries everything in piles of menus that you navigate by either turning or sliding (!!!) the knob on a completely arbitrary basis. It's certainly possible to adjust the air conditioning through iDrive in my dad's 5, but I'd only ever attempt it while completely stopped. (Not that I would anyway, since the actual knobs are right there.) Yep. You'll get no argument from me. With familiarity, the most used functions are intuitive, but diving through menus while driving never seemed like a good idea to me.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Yep. You'll get no argument from me. 100% agreement. I don't care how clever the menu system is, it will never be better than a button you can find by touch only and jab, or a switch you can flick up or down without looking at. No disrespect to Ron Jeremy.
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I have a rental with MyFordTouch right now. It feels like very little thought was given to how menu content is grouped, or the number of steps required to perform basic commands. The princess is always in another castle.
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Phanatic posted:As a frequent business traveler and car renter, I loving hate iDrive. Even the newer implementations of it. When you're driving a car that's not your own in an unfamiliar area in a country that drives on the wrong side fo the road, the absolute last thing I want to gently caress with is a user interface that requires me to look at an LCD screen in order to accomplish anything with it. There are manual buttons for regular seat adjustments, the iDrive menu is for lesser used adjustments e.g. "seat heating" is for manually adjusting the heat split between the seat cushion and the seat back. Protip: Don't buy a used E65/66 7 series.
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Oh hey, did the thread get moved into AI again?
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Besesoth posted:Oh hey, did the thread get moved into AI again? I'll try to stop it seeing I played a part in it. Have a glorious teardown of a 'vintage' mobile phone (I refuse to call them cellphones as those were a different type of wireless telephony completely). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L3L2J-IjfA
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Humphreys posted:I'll try to stop it seeing I played a part in it. Christ I love EEVBlog.
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Humphreys posted:I'll try to stop it seeing I played a part in it. The Motorola Ultra Sleek 9660 in that video used the AMPS standard, which very much was a cellular network.
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I had a 9660 with the car adapter. Great phone for its time.
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Humphreys posted:Have a glorious teardown of a 'vintage' mobile phone (I refuse to call them cellphones as those were a different type of wireless telephony completely).
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mystes posted:Huh? You realize cellular just means they use "cells" (areas covered by a network of geographically distributed base stations), right? It doesn't imply a specific encoding or anything. 'Cell phones' were the original given name to a cordless phone that could be accessed on certain public areas like a hotspot (think cordless payphone booth). I was being a pedantic idiot, and the cellular network is indeed still the given name due to the hexagonal arrangement of towers to allow handoffs and handovers. (also trying to be cute in regards to the way Australians use the word 'Mobile Phone'). It was an attepted two-fer but failed, oh well! EDIT: Content! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxesirLI488 Humphreys has a new favorite as of 08:02 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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strangemusic posted:Christ I love EEVBlog. On the upside his voice is clear enough that you can play at 2x speed and he's still intelligible. 
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mystes posted:Huh? You realize cellular just means they use "cells" (areas covered by a network of geographically distributed base stations), right? It doesn't imply a specific encoding or anything. Huh! I always thought it was because they were powered by batteries (of dry cells). :themoreyouknow:
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here in the good old uk they are called mobile phones because they are phones that are mobile.
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reformed bad troll posted:here in the good old uk they are called mobile phones because they are phones that are mobile. in Germany they are called "handy" because you hold it in your hand and English is cool and 
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Here in Germany we call them Handys. You know, because they're phones you hold in your hand. As opposed to landline phones that you don't. Most Germans think it's what they're called in English-speaking countries, too. Bearbeitung: Scheisse, geschlagen Edit: gently caress, beaten
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reformed bad troll posted:here in the good old uk they are called mobile phones because they are phones that are mobile.
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I'm legitimately suprised the German word for cell phone isn't some absurdly long compound word like TelefonHandtragbares
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Mr. Flunchy posted:What the hell does this thing do? That's a fly press. You give the bar a good spin and the weights on the end of the bar keep the bar spinning, driving the screw and forcing the ram down onto your work piece. I'm guessing (because I'm not seeing any presses like it) that the lower bar and springs are for some kind of stop mechanism to control the ram's downward movement (since you don't want to try to stop that top bar by hand).
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Zwille posted:Here in Germany we call them Handys. You know, because they're phones you hold in your hand. As opposed to landline phones that you don't. That's one of the things I loved about living & working in Germany. Friends & family come to visit, and it's the word you reach for. "Don't worry, I've got mein handy with me, just give me a call." Haven't lived there for 13 years, I still call my phone a handy.
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:That's a fly press. You give the bar a good spin and the weights on the end of the bar keep the bar spinning, driving the screw and forcing the ram down onto your work piece. I'm guessing (because I'm not seeing any presses like it) that the lower bar and springs are for some kind of stop mechanism to control the ram's downward movement (since you don't want to try to stop that top bar by hand). Thanks. And here's an interesting thing:  I work in a Victorian building in the middle of London, and this is what remains of what was at the time an extremely fancy bit of technology. From the company of Hubert Cecil Booth, inventor of the vacuum cleaner, this is the socket of a building size cleaning device. Back at the dawn of the 20th century they weren't sure whether the future lay in self-contained vacuum pumps to clean buildings or centralised fixtures. My building made the wrong call. The pipes connect to a disused, miles long, vacuum tube system that terminates in the cellar where a huge industrial sucking and filtration machine once sat. This thing cost an absolute fortune, but the pipes had a tendency to block up the with crap sucked out of the carpets, and figuring out where the blockage was apparently took forever. It was only used for a couple of years before they switched to semi-recognisable compact vacuum cleaners like this: 
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DigitalRaven posted:That's one of the things I loved about living & working in Germany. Friends & family come to visit, and it's the word you reach for. "Don't worry, I've got mein handy with me, just give me a call." In the us hams call their hand held radios handies or ht (for handy talkie)
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Thanks. And here's an interesting thing: I almost bought a house with a central vacuum cleaner. There was an outlet in each room you would plug the tube into, which also made a circuit connection that turned on the vacuum. Pretty cool tech for a house, but you're right. A blockage would take forever to clear. Apparently they're still a thing! http://www.beamvac.com/
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