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Preoptopus posted:Probably should ask this really stupid question in the racing thread but just curious how much does it cost to have a crash during a track day at a track like that? By crash I mean if just you go off the track and smash your car into a wall. (obv not counting the car and any injuries to you) Like do they just send you a bill for loving up the track? Yes they would, and also the bill for recovering the vehicle. A lot of people forget that when driving around The Ring in Germany and gently caress up.
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Preoptopus posted:Probably should ask this really stupid question in the racing thread but just curious how much does it cost to have a crash during a track day at a track like that? By crash I mean if just you go off the track and smash your car into a wall. (obv not counting the car and any injuries to you) Like do they just send you a bill for loving up the track? depends on the event and track, but generally, yes. These are the prices for the nurburgring. quote:Cost of crashing on the Nurburgring And naturally you're on your own for car repair, too.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:This should probably go in a different thread, but I assume everyone in this thread will have seen project binky, and I have a question about project binky. Anyone know what those rubber/plastic things were that they used for bumpers on the pivoting front end? Cone shaped, male and female ends, looked like black rubber. Do those things have a name? Any idea where they can be found? I got a project that needs something a lot like that. He says "I've turned up these", I suspect they may be custom made, ie literally "turned up" on a lathe. Might have to talk to a machine shop and see if they could make something for you.
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Maybe you could repurpose some kind of bumpstop?
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Best thing to happen to motorsports are GoPros. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Kzazvcc98&t=34s
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holocaust bloopers posted:Best thing to happen to motorsports are GoPros. Unreal how glued to the road it is.
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Look at the position the driver has to be in, around 3/4 of the way in. That looks really uncomfortable 
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T1g4h posted:Look at the position the driver has to be in, around 3/4 of the way in. That looks really uncomfortable Ever stopped to think about how you package a human in an F1 car with all that daylight under the nose and front suspension linkage?  Not saying it's comfortable, but it isn't like the driving position is specific to the FWD Nissan.
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I wonder how much slower F1 would be if they added a rule that drivers needed to use a natural sitting position, defined by their feet being below their rear end. And I know their seats are all custom built to support the driver perfectly, but the idea of sitting with my chin pressed towards my chest for extended periods makes me sore just thinking about it.
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I can feel my herniated disc getting worse just looking at that.
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Sauber did a neat video about F1 packaging a few years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wn1EFLa2C8 They wedge Perez in there at the 3:15 mark but the whole video is worth a watch.
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They get a perfectly form-fitting chair and get to stay still the entire race, harden up.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:52
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Bikers get pressed into the seat, dudes with four tires get smushed from side to side at every corner. Neck fatigue is a big problem any time an amateur gets a shot at riding in an F1 car.
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xzzy posted:Bikers get pressed into the seat Let's not even get into the obscene fitness level required once dirt becomes involved. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Yeah, it is a lot of wok and just taking an ordinary road bike to a trackday/massive twisty road blitz has you feeling like you've had the poo poo kicked out of you afterward. You don't get to sit there passively and just resist the g forces, you have to do physical work to make the bike go around corners, you're an integral part of the steering/suspension.
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“Motocross by far requires the highest level of combined fitness of any sport on the face of the earth, bar none.” States Spencer, “I've spent 5 tours (Tour de France) with Lance Armstrong and Lance is no slouch. But Lances’ overall general fitness doesn't even compare to the overall fitness of a motocross racer.” - Jeff Spencer
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I'm not trying to argue that riders are wusses. I fully appreciate their fitness levels regardless of the number of tires. I'm just saying they experience the forces of cornering a bit differently.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I can feel my herniated disc getting worse just looking at that. Here is Hamilton talking about his seating position. Apparently he sleeps in that thing all the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhp3F9a7mVI
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I imagine the forces your neck goes through in an F1 car are unreal. I also imagine the regular day-to-day 'just a part of the job' crashes a MotoGP rider goes through are probably a bit more rough. Though the extreme sides of both sports are equally brutal and final.
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A more comfortable driver can stay focused on turning fast laps for longer and in LeMans they are in there for like 4 hours at a time. So that Nissan is about as comfortable as they get.
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Spiffness posted:I imagine the forces your neck goes through in an F1 car are unreal. Yeah, they put Richard Hammond in an F1 car a few years ago (or maybe a training version of one, can't remember exactly) and he eventually had to stop driving it because his neck wore out.
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Is there a reason why they don't use some sort of head bracing system? Risk of decapitation in a crash I guess? Maybe something that attaches to your shoulders would help while being safer.
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They do use HANS, but that doesn't mean that it takes the stress away. I'd guess that anything stiff enough to take the load would be too limiting. The drivers need to be able to turn their heads. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HANS_device
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Normally front end swaps go in the terrible thread, but this is just too fuckin cute   
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Powershift posted:Normally front end swaps go in the terrible thread, but this is just too fuckin cute 100% correct thread.
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Fuckin' Honda. I almost bought a (Canadian) grey-market NR750 when I was younger and [more] foolish with my money. I'm glad I didn't, but I would have loved to do a teardown on one. ninja: 
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The only thing my dad asked me to consider was the logistics behind manufacture and installation of the piston rings.
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Took some shots of the world's most awesome airplane this past week, and the V8 powered start cart for the J58:           
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 I'm scared, someone hold me.
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Now you can throw two rods through the block at once!
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Mmmmmm, Nailheads.
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Das Volk posted:Took some shots of the world's most awesome airplane this past week, and the V8 powered start cart for the J58: These are badass. Where did you take them? Looks similar to the NMUSAF. I've always dreamed of going there. The closest I can get at the moment is their virtual tour which is pretty awesome: http://nmusafvirtualtour.com/full/tour-std.html Also they have a full high-resolution panoramic of the SR-71 cockpit: http://nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/068/SR-71A%20Front%20Cockpit.html
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DoLittle posted:They do use HANS, but that doesn't mean that it takes the stress away. I'd guess that anything stiff enough to take the load would be too limiting. The drivers need to be able to turn their heads. That doesn't brace your next, and it's only front-back crash protection. For lateral loads you can rest your head on the bolsters they put in F1 cars, and you see drivers doing this at long races on tracks with sweeping fast corners when they're a bit unfit or prefer to economize their movement (Kimi).
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Not new, but still awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmnsXTMLzCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WblrU3T5P14
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I've heard F1 drivers say their cars are pretty cozy after the seats are molded to their bodies. Isn't there a current driver on the schedule who naps in his car from time to time in between practice/qualifying sessions?
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For comparison, here an Italian's rear end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHWQL6vEe3g
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angryhampster posted:I've heard F1 drivers say their cars are pretty cozy after the seats are molded to their bodies. Isn't there a current driver on the schedule who naps in his car from time to time in between practice/qualifying sessions? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgvd9v9KiGU
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ReelBigLizard posted:Not new, but still awesome That is loving mental and awesome. I'd love to hear it at full crank.
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