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Stubear St. Pierre
Feb 22, 2006

BitBasher posted:

The map is too big for that to work. You would go extended periods without ever seeing anyone.


Scyron posted:

This functionality was in GTA4, it wasn't very fun, however I love the idea, it is just the application doesn't play out that well.


Craptacular posted:

Maybe have it based off the player's cell phone. If a player's phone is on, their position gets localized to the nearest virtual cell tower (maybe a couple blocks radius in the game?). That way players could hide to some extent but still have to hunt for each other. But start shooting/causing mayhem and their location gets more detailed as they get more stars. If a player has no stars and has their phone off then they'd be invisible in the minimap. Then remove passive mode, as it would have no use any more.

I was just thinking some kind of heat map, where players are more visible the more chaos they're causing

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Hobnob
Feb 23, 2006

Ursa Adorandum

Craptacular posted:

Another set of ideas:

1. Players drop money like NPCs when they die. Not necessarily all of it, maybe just a percentage.
I thought they did already. Like a certain percentage of carried cash. I know I've picked up money from dead players.

quote:

2. No more withdrawing or depositing cash from a cell phone, you have to go to an ATM. Nobody uses ATMs right now. How do you stuff cash into a cell phone, anyways?
Wait, what? I use ATMs all the time because I didn't know you could use your phone to do it.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?
Im surprised that Rockstar hasn't made GTAO standalone yet.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Rockstar probably won't do that because they love to trot out that "You didn't pay for GTAO, you paid for GTA5 and GTAO is a bonus!" pseudo-excuse whenever people complain about how they paid for the game so Rockstar should meet deadlines.

Hobnob posted:

Wait, what? I use ATMs all the time because I didn't know you could use your phone to do it.

Yeah, just go to the Maze Bank website. You can deposit/withdraw directly from the bank without using an ATM.

Sapient Afro
Jan 22, 2012

Well, you threatened to shove a knife up his dickhole.

If you don't have to go out of your way to get to one, depositing your money via atm is slightly faster. Gotta use all those optimizations you can when poopsocking your way to get enough cash to mod out a single car

Heartstrings Tugboat
Sep 5, 2002

fyodor posted:

First I've seen of this :vince:

Sup Stinger GT bro


Sup

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omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


Your dude looks like a coked out G-Man wearing his dad's suit to the Semi Formal

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


Still better than Jay's

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Craptacular posted:

3. Make players pay taxes on cars and properties. If you want 3 apartments and 30 cars you better be able to afford the taxes on them.

Crap... Not to be a dick or whatever... but this is literally. literally. *the worst* video game idea I've ever heard.



literally.


:v:

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

omg chael crash posted:

Your dude looks like a coked out G-Man wearing his dad's suit to the Semi Formal

Dude I was JUST thinking like X-Com or some poo poo so you nailed it.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
yeah all of Craptacular's ideas are basically "we take away your money for reasons even Rockstar considers bullshit at this point in time," sorry dude all of those are awful.

also the minute some kid's Shark Card money goes into taxes or some poo poo, say goodbye to Rockstar making real money. So they won't. Money sinks are one thing, just arbitrarily taking money from the players is godawful. I cannot overstate how bad or "will be used to grief and abuse innocent players" every one of those plans is.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Hobnob posted:

I thought they did already. Like a certain percentage of carried cash. I know I've picked up money from dead players.

It used to be a hefty chunk of all your money that was cash. Now it's capped at a few hundred bucks and it's so much nicer.

Duke Chin posted:

Crap... Not to be a dick or whatever... but this is literally. literally. *the worst* video game idea I've ever heard.



literally.


:v:

Plus we already have daily "maintence fees" on every apartment/garage.

Agent Burt Macklin
Jul 3, 2003

Macklin, you son of a bitch

omg chael crash posted:

Still better than Jay's

Lies! Nothing is better than Zombie Amelia Earhart!

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

Psion posted:

yeah all of Craptacular's ideas are basically "we take away your money for reasons even Rockstar considers bullshit at this point in time," sorry dude all of those are awful.

Only the tax thing would cause anyone to just lose money. The others would be transferring money from one player to another.

Heartstrings Tugboat
Sep 5, 2002

omg chael crash posted:

Your dude looks like a coked out G-Man wearing his dad's suit to the Semi Formal

Yep, unfortunately all suits look that way.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Craptacular posted:

Only the tax thing would cause anyone to just lose money. The others would be transferring money from one player to another.

I'm sure you'll enjoy it when 420WeedBonerHitlerLord and his crew steal all your money by hitting banks.

Also, taking away shark card income through any method other than the player spending it is a straight ticket to pissing people off about real money they've spent - there's no chance.

there is no way you could "balance" this to counteract the psychological problem of someone losing money for "no reason." That absolutely infuriates players well beyond the actual value of the financial loss - it's bad game design. Flat out.

Psion fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Mar 5, 2015

Dangerous Person
Apr 4, 2011

Not dead yet
Met a cool guy online last night.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTfqH7KfOR0

Quicksand_Jesus
Dec 19, 2005

Lasagna Miracle
Since when did this thread become the IGN boards with pages of people wishing for absolutely horrible ideas that should totally be put into the game? God drat.. taxes? Really? Seeeriioouusssly?

The questions we SHOULD be asking is what new weapons, tools, and ideas can be implemented that will allow us to gently caress with pubbies even worse? Like, I don't know--how about the chainsaw from Vice City? What about a mace? Flash bangs?

Maybe a van with a sliding door and door rear doors where we can roll six deep and murder people more efficiently?

How about more horns to flaunt our aggressive tendencies?

How about the riot truck from Ballad of Gay Tony?

Bottom line--give me things that make me want to play more or money or buy shark cards. I don't need taxes or other changes to the money system. Just give me more poo poo to annoy and terrorize.

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -
^^^ I just want to be able to lock on to ground vehicles with the helicopter's missiles and/or also a MASSIVE speed increase on the T.V. camera missiles.


Tax :homebrew: chat actually got me to thinking: I don't think there EVER will be a true casino in GTA:O directly BECAUSE of the shark cards (in the U.S. at least). For the same reason that online poker for cash was shut down by the gub'mint back a number of years ago.

If there was no actual money (via shark cards) tied into the game then yeah they could have just ported over Red Dead Gamblin'. Yes/No/R* Just Lazy?





Discuss.

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

Duke Chin posted:

^^^ I just want to be able to lock on to ground vehicles with the helicopter's missiles and/or also a MASSIVE speed increase on the T.V. camera missiles.


Tax :homebrew: chat actually got me to thinking: I don't think there EVER will be a true casino in GTA:O directly BECAUSE of the shark cards (in the U.S. at least). For the same reason that online poker for cash was shut down by the gub'mint back a number of years ago.

If there was no actual money (via shark cards) tied into the game then yeah they could have just ported over Red Dead Gamblin'. Yes/No/R* Just Lazy?

Discuss.

Would it really be gambling if you can't get real money back out of the system, only put it in?

And the helicopters need a guided TV camera missile like in BF2, where your POV is on the nose of the missile once it's fired. Maybe put it on the Annihilator (the Blackhawk-looking one) because that thing is worthless right now with only machine guns. And maybe make it so only the front seat passenger can operate it, to promote teamwork.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
I want to be able to load up my cars with mounted weapons, just like streets of simcity. Make 'em a hundred thousand for a rocket launcher and fifty thousand for a machine gun, i'll do it.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.


Other games have gotten away with it. PlayStation Home had a casino that operated on real world money, and they got away with having ATMs everywhere for people to use their credit cards to buy chips and even monetized "high roller" status so people paid money either way to become elite gamblers. The trick was not actually cashing out any real or fake money. Winning games just earned more "chips" that went towards your "Winnings" scores for each game, and the more you won and added to the Winnings the more you would unlock. That's what people gambled for: super rare, exclusive poo poo they couldn't buy from stores or unlock some other way.

Doesn't take a genius to think where Rockstar could take that idea with GTA Online. Reach 100k winnings in Blackjack and unlock the Checkered Flag Zentorno! Win 10k in a single roll of Roulette to get the Greaser Haircut! When your total winnings reach 1 million, you unlock the ~*~exclusive high rollers customizable casino penthouse~*~! Bust out on playing craps? Well for $19.99 you can buy another 40k chips and take another shot at it!

People fall for this poo poo hook, line, and sinker. It makes me feel that it's not a matter of IF but a matter of WHEN with Rockstar.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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gta:o beyond thunderdome

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


Duke Chin posted:

^^^ I just want to be able to lock on to ground vehicles with the helicopter's missiles and/or also a MASSIVE speed increase on the T.V. camera missiles.

To be fair, a good pilot and good gunner can murder the ever loving poo poo out of a whole lot of white dots. I know me and other goons have gone on great murder sprees before even with those stupidly slow missiles. That was, of course, before homing missiles were put in.

I just want to see it so passive mode cannot be turned off unless in your apartment or garage. I also would like it if you cannot interact with any objectives when passive, such as the Crate Drops HPVs and so on. Make them intangible to a person in passive mode.

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Policenaut posted:

Doesn't take a genius to think where Rockstar could take that idea with GTA Online. Reach 100k winnings in Blackjack and unlock the Checkered Flag Zentorno! Win 10k in a single roll of Roulette to get the Greaser Haircut! When your total winnings reach 1 million, you unlock the ~*~exclusive high rollers customizable casino penthouse~*~! Bust out on playing craps? Well for $19.99 you can buy another 40k chips and take another shot at it!

Jesus they could make so, soooooooooo much :homebrew::homebrew::homebrew: under this scheme it would be insane... And as long as it keeps DLC free - go for it. I sure as poo poo never would but the dumbs with less fiscal responsibility and irrational exuberance can, by all means, subsidize my weapons and missions and vehicles! :getin:

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

I want taxis with jumping suspensions again. Heck, just lowrider jumping suspensions you can mod into certain cars would be ok.

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

BitBasher posted:

To be fair, a good pilot and good gunner can murder the ever loving poo poo out of a whole lot of white dots. I know me and other goons have gone on great murder sprees before even with those stupidly slow missiles. That was, of course, before homing missiles were put in.

I just want to see it so passive mode cannot be turned off unless in your apartment or garage. I also would like it if you cannot interact with any objectives when passive, such as the Crate Drops HPVs and so on. Make them intangible to a person in passive mode.

I think more things will auto drop you from passive with the next update. Right now ignition bombs and starting gang attacks drop you. So I'm sure other things were probably supposed to do the same. Such as the HPV.

And by ignition bombs you can be killed while in passive and if you arm one you will be dropped from passive when an unwitting pubbie or goon (like me tonight) attempts to steal it.

I mainly use passive to farm the dubstas and for when I want to spend time stunting. If they were to change it well I'll be spending more time in solo or invite only sessions like I did on 360. Which would suck because I like pubbies to ride pillion when I attempt jumps and purposely fail the landing.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

they should add estate planning and joint custody negotiations in the next update. also i've been really really wanting business classes to finally be included with the online experience. you know like read up on some case studies write an essay on 3M.

Scyron
Aug 27, 2005

I am sure a hacker knows all about rewarding and accomplished behavior. I mean, raping a chick with some mickeys is the same is getting laid right? Same result amirite guys? Nothing like work and not having to do it and get that sweet sweet payoff. :smug:
killings pubbies is fun, but drat if there aren't some super stars. Some guy did a 25/4 on me, and I am not even sure what caused he to continue to hunt me down. Most of it was reverse+entity XF drivebys which I only could destroy his car, if I cared about winning. Still kind of fun, and I blew threw 110k because I am a dummy.

I hope 600k is enough for heists.

I'm not sure if anyone has an interest in doing a throw back GTA4 MP lobby on 360? I just got a free month trial, and that is like the only game that interests me to try the mp with.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?
While I don't do any of that other stuff like hpvs or crate drops, I would really hate for them to nerf passive mode.

Just make those thongs kick you out of it and leave passive mode the way it is.

Agent Burt Macklin
Jul 3, 2003

Macklin, you son of a bitch
Who cares about the casino? I'd love to see a library DLC where we could research stuff at the Los Santos Library and use the Dewey Decimal System and borrow books. And if we return the books late, we get charged late fees!

:v:

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Kelly posted:

Who cares about the casino? I'd love to see a library DLC where we could research stuff at the Los Santos Library and use the Dewey Decimal System and borrow books. And if we return the books late, we get charged late fees!

:v:

Jimmy is forced by his father to work at the library in order to learn manners and learn something, but Trevor thinks its a money making scam somehow and wants a slice, loving things up whenever he appears.
Coming on Fox this fall.

Heartstrings Tugboat
Sep 5, 2002

I hope they add this to posonby's so I can wear it while I do my taxes.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


Kelly posted:

Who cares about the casino? I'd love to see a library DLC where we could research stuff at the Los Santos Library and use the Dewey Decimal System and borrow books. And if we return the books late, we get charged late fees!

:v:

I mean they have a university in the game, why can I not go to college and lrarn about gtaconomics?

Aardmania
Jan 1, 2007

Ruining newspapers since 1993.

Shredded Hen
Obviously what this game needs is a proper vehicle registration system. All new cars will require a trip to both the DMV office conveniently located in Paleto Bay and to the Mors Mutual insurance office located by the Los Santos International airport. Failure to do so will mean an immediate 3-star wanted level and a hefty fine.

Aardmania fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Mar 5, 2015

Wee Bairns
Feb 10, 2004

Jack Tripper's wingman.

Also, you need to attend driving school to earn a license. Without one your garage becomes inaccessible, and your vehicles will become ineligible for insurance coverage from Mors.
And after each time you call Mors to replace your vehicle , your premium goes up.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Wee Bairns posted:

And after each time you call Mors to replace your vehicle , your premium goes up.

Within reason that would actually be hilarious. Intentionally destroy your car a ton and then piss off some pubbie and make them pay through the nose when they blow up your car.

Agent Burt Macklin
Jul 3, 2003

Macklin, you son of a bitch

Wee Bairns posted:

Also, you need to attend driving school to earn a license. Without one your garage becomes inaccessible, and your vehicles will become ineligible for insurance coverage from Mors.
And after each time you call Mors to replace your vehicle , your premium goes up.

Inspections.

Every in-game "year" you have to go to an LCS and have them inspect your car. Windows too dark? You fail. Underglow kit? You fail.

When you fail, your car becomes inaccessible and you have to earn it back by "unmodding" it (at a cost of course) and then pay again to mod it back up again after it passes inspection.

an AOL chatroom
Oct 3, 2002

I'm taking a break from playing until they finally implement in-game allergies and colds.

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Agent Burt Macklin
Jul 3, 2003

Macklin, you son of a bitch

bisticles posted:

I'm taking a break from playing until they finally implement in-game allergies and colds.

YES...my GTA character will be able to live in fear of tree nuts the way I do!

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