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Spring 1909 Austria A bud Holds F rom Supports A sav (Support cut by Move from Milan) England A ank -> arm F bar -> stp/nc A bul Holds A con Supports A bul F edi -> nth F lon -> eng (Bounced with bre) A mos -> war (Bounced with war) F nwg -> nwy A rum Supports A sev -> ukr A sev -> ukr A smy Holds A stp -> lvn France F aeg -> bul/sc (Bounced with bul) A apu -> ven (Bounced with ven (1 against 1). F bre -> eng (Bounced with lon) A gre Supports F aeg -> bul F ion -> adr A mar -> bur F nap Holds A sav Supports F rom F tys -> wes Germany A boh -> sil A gal Supports A war F lvn -> bot A mil -> rom (Bounced with rom) F pru -> bal A tri -> ser A tyr -> mun A ven Supports A mil -> rom (Support cut by Move from Apulia) A vie -> bud (Bounced with bud) A war Holds  (Sorry for the delay, I passed out early  )Fall 1909 deadline: February 25th, 10 PM eastern.
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A player needs more time, and I'm p. gonna be drunk in 24 hours, so deadline extension to: 10 AM, Friday morning.
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Feb 26, 2015 01:11
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thanks. I legit haven't looked at it yet :|
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Feb 26, 2015 01:35
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I haven't received anything from anyone yet!
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Feb 28, 2015 00:30
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Pinterest Mom posted:I haven't received anything from anyone yet! To be fair we're all in weird positions and fighting against former allies is rough!!
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Feb 28, 2015 02:29
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Someone invaded the neutral zone. < >
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Feb 28, 2015 02:31
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Mills posted:Someone invaded the neutral zone. < How else am I gonna try to fight you down there??? I just need to move through and then Hal can retake it
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Feb 28, 2015 02:35
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I think it's basically a dead-zone for all 3 of us. With Hal alive, we can't fit anything through there.
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Feb 28, 2015 02:41
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Mills posted:I think it's basically a dead-zone for all 3 of us. With Hal alive, we can't fit anything through there. Yeah, that's true. I thought I could go somewhere from SER but now that I actually look at the map I really can't.
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Feb 28, 2015 02:48
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Mills posted:I think it's basically a dead-zone for all 3 of us. With Hal alive, we can't fit anything through there. Well, a solution presents itself.
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Feb 28, 2015 03:38
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BatteredFeltFedora posted:Well, a solution presents itself. shhhhhhhhhhh.........
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Feb 28, 2015 06:57
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Still waiting on one player, should have the update up tonight :-/
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Mar 2, 2015 15:01
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is it me?
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Mar 2, 2015 16:09
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No, you submitted. The player knows who he is.
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And we're back. Fall 1909  Austria A bud -> ser F rom Holds England A arm -> sev A bul Supports A bud -> ser (Support cut by Move from Greece) A con Supports A bul A lvn Supports A ukr -> war F lon -> eng (Bounced with bre) A mos Supports A ukr -> war F nth -> hol F nwy -> ska A rum Supports A bud -> ser A smy Supports A con F stp/nc -> nwy A ukr -> war France F adr Convoys A apu -> tri F aeg Supports A gre -> bul A apu -> tri (Bounced with ser) Convoy path taken: apu→adr→tri. F bre -> eng (Bounced with lon) A bur -> ruh A gre -> bul (Bounced with bul) F nap -> apu (Failed) A sav Supports F rom F wes -> mao Germany F bal Supports F bot -> swe A gal Supports A war F bot -> swe A mil Holds A mun Holds A ser -> tri (Bounced with apu) (Dislodged from bud) A sil -> ber A ven Supports A mil A vie Holds A war Holds (Dislodged from ukr)  Germany: A War can retreat to Pru or Sil, 2 disbands England: 2 builds Austria: 1 build Adjustments ASAP, please.
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Mar 3, 2015 04:10
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Winter 1909  Spring 1910 deadline: March 5th, 10 PM eastern.
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Mar 4, 2015 03:44
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I'm willing to concede now. Even if we all teamed up against Mills we'd still be in poor position to stop him. He's got a solid defensive line, a wall against 2 sides, and no reasonable weak spots. He wins. I'd have to cannibalize chic to stand a chance myself, and thatd be a dinner bell rung for Mills.
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Mar 4, 2015 05:40
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I think that's a fair assessment. That was a particularly good turn for me. I'm happy to call it a draw though friends~
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Mar 4, 2015 05:55
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Yeah, I have no real ability to move against Mills, and to fight Pander I'd have to leave all of my territories close to Mills open pretty much, which would a) give Mills a BUNCH of units and b) basically neuter my ability to fight Pander, which renders the whole thing moot. All I really can do is hole up, which isn't actually very fun, so I'd be good with a draw right now.
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Mar 4, 2015 16:34
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draw
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Mar 4, 2015 19:16
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Mar 4, 2015 19:20
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BOOOOO hiss
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Mar 4, 2015 19:25
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Well I wantred TRI back but of course I am ok with a draw
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Dr. Oszkár Bárány Dear Journal, Today I received an uncensored letter from my wife; Éva and the kids have safely returned to Budapest, and though our home was ransacked and my office destroyed by shelling, the provisional Hungarian authority assures them that refugees like my family will receive good treatment. At last, for them at least, their nightmare is over. The Germans assure me that, once the armistice is signed, they will let me return to Pest as well. But technically there is still a war, and it seems as if the British, having "liberated" Russia and Turkey, are ready to snap the trap on the whole of Europe. If that happens, the war will continue, and so many more lives will perish... it pains my heart. Still, the Gefreiter assures me that the war is already over, that the Brits will have calmer heads, and we're all just fearing the worst because of the shadow of a decade of war. I want to trust him, but... I am just not sure. Nothing makes sense anymore, and I know he has lied to be before. I suppose though all I can do is wait, and hope.
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Okay so I guess The game ends in a four way draw between Mills/Pander/Chic Trombone/Hal. But really we know Mills won Thanks for playing!
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Mar 5, 2015 02:45
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We're all winners, even Pinterest Mom!
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Mar 5, 2015 02:47
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good work Mills I guess
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Mar 5, 2015 02:48
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Sorry TT 
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Mar 5, 2015 02:50
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-This game was weird. The coalitions that formed were really solid, and nobody really ever acted in their own self-interest, which is not really supposed to happen. I think the fact that most of you were unfamiliar with the game and strategy led to that - you were scared to act out alone, maybe? -I had forgotten how hard the rules were to grok for new player -This has been going on for two months! Thanks for hanging on that long 
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Mar 5, 2015 03:01
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I felt like I couldn't do much at all against Germany and England working together, Germany wouldn't talk to me at all for whatever reason
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Mar 5, 2015 03:03
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That's diplomacy for you. This is actually how most of the games of diplomacy I've seen end up: 2-4 powers negotiate to not attack each other, wipe out the other 3 (who never seem to align for whatever reason) & they all draw, unless one of them is so hilariously out of position as to be easily picked off before the draw.
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Mar 5, 2015 03:09
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I had a deal with JJ to eat capps, which Pander agreed to maintain, but then Chic joined the game and we melted.
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Pinterest Mom posted:nobody really ever acted in their own self-interest, which is not really supposed to happen. I think the fact that most of you were unfamiliar with the game and strategy led to that When an economist first invented the prisoner's dilemma, he gave it as a joke to his secretaries. He found they would refuse to betray almost entirely. He concluded women were just irrational. Chastising players for "not playing in their self-interest!! that's not supposed to happen!!" is really dumb.
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bowmore posted:I felt like I couldn't do much at all against Germany and England working together, Germany wouldn't talk to me at all for whatever reason I am a woman of my word and had already allied with Mills and Pander by that point and like hell was I going back on that  E: Mills posted:I had a deal with JJ to eat capps, which Pander agreed to maintain, but then Chic joined the game and we melted.
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EccoRaven posted:When an economist first invented the prisoner's dilemma, he gave it as a joke to his secretaries. He found they would refuse to betray almost entirely. He concluded women were just irrational. People playing a game enter in a social contact where they try to fulfill their win condition to the best of their ability. It's not fun if you're playing Ticket to Ride and one person just wants to build routes to cities they like. If everyone is playing that way, sure. In Diplomacy though, I think, sometimes acting in ways that are obviously against your interest can ultimately advance you towards your win condition. I think I'm probably the biggest reason why I lost. I tried to coordinate moves for most of my side but I didn't really have the knowledge or experience to do so effectively and ended up bungling a few things. I also couldn't really organize us in any kind of effective fashion so my attempts to establish a full on coalition didn't work and there was some infighting that drastically reduced our efficacy. I think I drastically overestimated the importance of Trust this game. I made a promise to myself to play as legitimately as possible and that was kind of dumb. If I had betrayed bowmore at some point I might have had a shot, maybe? I was also dumb to let Taste talk me into allowing Hal to live.
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Somberbrero posted:I think I drastically overestimated the importance of Trust this game. I made a promise to myself to play as legitimately as possible and that was kind of dumb. If I had betrayed bowmore at some point I might have had a shot, maybe? I was also dumb to let Taste talk me into allowing Hal to live. Doubt it would have held up much better, seems like almost all the countries were interested in upholding their alliances this game. But you're right that most people need to watch out for their self interest rather than deferring to someone else in order to keep the game fun. Otherwise it becomes a pub-stomp without the entitled rage that makes pubstomps fun.
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It's ok guys, Diplomacy is a bad game and you did the best you could with it.
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I wanted Capps/Chic and Mills to like the game, and basically promised to never betray them. If they weren't literal newbies I absolutely would have turned on them. At some point midgame mills had no home defense and chic was tied up with bowmore and somber, so I could absolutely have eaten the both of them and taken their places. I kicked myself for not doing it, but in hindsight also decided it was good I didn't. I absolutely had the best backstabbing position, it just wasn't the right game. It's funny too, because I played mills in the first survivor game pretty painfully too. I didn't "respect" the setting of survivor, I just wanted to destroy him as artfully as I could. I think I wanted them to like diplomacy and appreciate what it offered more than just racing for 18 SCs on my own. It meant sucking up my ego and not stabbing. Boring game, but hopefully it raised awareness.
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MildManeredManikin posted:It's ok guys, Diplomacy is a bad game and you did the best you could with it. It's a good game, just more brutal and far better suited to online/mail than in-person.
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Oh and hey, I forgot. Pinterest, thank you so much for running this game. I'm sure it was a lot of aggravation and effort on your part, but I did have a lot of fun, especially early on.
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