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Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Drunk Canuck posted:

Honda is the best only because Toyota for some reason isn't back




come back to me Toyota








:smith:


Toyota was very good at wasting money, then designing a good car and withdrawing.

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poopzilla
Nov 23, 2004

Drunk Canuck posted:

Honda is the best only because Toyota for some reason isn't back




come back to me Toyota








:smith:

in what universe has toyota ever been better at racing than Honda?

dont say nascar. or wrc

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
They beat them in CART once.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


poopzilla posted:

in what universe has toyota ever been better at racing than Honda?

dont say nascar. or wrc

Offroad/baja trucks?

dsriggs
May 28, 2012

MONEY FALLS...

...FROM THE SKY...

...WHENEVER HE POSTS!

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
Japan F3 series?

Fanatic
Mar 9, 2006

:eyepop:

Diet Crack posted:

GOON PRIX PREDICTOR 2015

(the Castrol predictor series from last year, click the link)
http://gppredictor.com/league/join/code/6ff609f7e4bce769943157b92b2aacba
Mastercard LOLa looks forward to beating you scrubs again this year. :getin:

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

It came close but it didnt realy win anything tbh. I'm pretty sure it was Brundle who was in a winning position at LeMans but had a tyre blowout and crashed pretty badly.

At least the TS040 managed to win the overall WEC championship last year if not LeMans.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Is the answer 'The Toyota Carena from early 90s BTCC'?

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006

Linedance posted:

Offroad/baja trucks?

He said racing not terrorism.

djssniper
Jan 10, 2003



That thing is basically a helmet with wheels and a wing

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


in joe's reddit thing he suggested that mclaren could be faster than mercedes by the end of the year so that's the end of my optimism for the season

ukle
Nov 28, 2005

be nice wicka posted:

in joe's reddit thing he suggested that mclaren could be faster than mercedes by the end of the year so that's the end of my optimism for the season

Would be a shock if the engine wasn't eventually better than the Merc given Honda have had hands on with the Merc engine last year assuming they don't need to change to much; when it finally comes good it should be a good engine. Just depends how good the car is then and McLaren lately haven't been great at that side of things.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


ukle posted:

Would be a shock if the engine wasn't eventually better than the Merc given Honda have had hands on with the Merc engine last year assuming they don't need to change to much; when it finally comes good it should be a good engine. Just depends how good the car is then and McLaren lately haven't been great at that side of things.

By "lately" do you mean "for 17 years"?

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


NtotheTC posted:

By "lately" do you mean "for 17 years"?

17 dog years, maybe

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014
IM SO BAD AT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT F1 IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY SOME DUDE WITH TOO MUCH FREE MONEY WILL KEEP CHANGING IT UNTIL I SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ACTUALLY POST SOMETHING THAT ISNT SPEWING HATE/SLURS/TELLING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES

be nice wicka posted:

in joe's reddit thing he suggested that mclaren could be faster than mercedes by the end of the year so that's the end of my optimism for the season

I think he explains how in GP+ which you should subscribe to now.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

1500quidporsche posted:

I think he explains how in GP+ which you should subscribe to now.

He may be a complete nincompoop when it comes to current F1 stuff, but GP+ does have some really neat articles about the history of the sport (and often motorsport in general) including stuff from pre WW2.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

djssniper posted:

That thing is basically a helmet with wheels and a wing

It's a loving Cylon fighter given a lick of paint and made roadworthy.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Uncle Jam posted:

Japan F3 series?

They had some good F3 engines in European series as well. Also IRL 2003, although the IRL is the worst open-wheel series in History.

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006

Is that a challenge?

ukle posted:

Would be a shock if the engine wasn't eventually better than the Merc given Honda have had hands on with the Merc engine last year assuming they don't need to change to much; when it finally comes good it should be a good engine. Just depends how good the car is then and McLaren lately haven't been great at that side of things.

Uh, this isn't how it works. McLaren will have had packaging requirements, fuel economy etc. from Merc but not much more. The engine's power unit's a sealed box that just arrives and gets bolted to the car as far as customer teams are concerned.

If you think McLaren have been able to sneak an engine to Honda for them to reverse engineer then just lol.

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin

ukle posted:

McLaren lately haven't been great at that side of things.

But... #sizezerocar

SZC will dominate the field once those lazy japs orientals figure out how to build an engine that runs for more than 30 seconds. Is there a fancy rule bend that will allow VTEC, bro?

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Fernando Alonso 'thought he was in 1995' after pre-season crash

Spanish driver reportedly lost the memory of the last 20 years of his life following smash in testing

Fernando Alonso woke up from his testing accident unaware he was a Formula One driver having forgotten the last 20 years of his life, according to reports in his native Spain.

Alonso will miss the season-opening Australian Grand Prix on March 15 on doctors’ orders after suffering a concussion. The 33-year-old was briefly unconscious after the crash at the Circuit de Catalunya and, according to Spanish daily El País, he woke up in hospital thinking it was 1995.

Asked who he was, what his job was, and what he hoped to do with his life, Alonso reportedly replied: “I'm Fernando, I drive go karts and I want to be a Formula One driver." Alonso apparently could not remember making his Formula One debut with Minardi in 2001, or either of his world championships in 2005 and 2006.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/11451953/Fernando-Alonso-thought-he-was-in-1995-after-pre-season-crash.html

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
He was probably a little upset when he found out what had actually happened

AgentJotun
Nov 1, 2007

jammyozzy posted:

Uh, this isn't how it works. McLaren will have had packaging requirements, fuel economy etc. from Merc but not much more. The engine's power unit's a sealed box that just arrives and gets bolted to the car as far as customer teams are concerned.

If you think McLaren have been able to sneak an engine to Honda for them to reverse engineer then just lol.

Both Mclaren and Honda should have some pretty good estimates on the power output of the Mercedes engines though. Atleast Honda had a minimum target to hit. Renault, Ferrari and Merc in 2013-2014 were in the dark as too what kind of horsepower the others could manage.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


90% of the confusion surrounding alonso would be gone if dennis had never stupidly said he wasn't concussed

enri
Dec 16, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day

JFairfax posted:

Fernando Alonso 'thought he was in 1995' after pre-season crash

Spanish driver reportedly lost the memory of the last 20 years of his life following smash in testing

JFairfax posted:

He was probably a little upset when he found out what had actually happened

Then hopefully he'll have forgotten this:



Which can only mean one thing, now he has that monkey off his back... Fernando Alonso WDC 2015

I'm going to slip a tenner on that.

Dynamite Dog
Dec 12, 2012

Wake up sheeple - remember McLaren's back to the future promo? That was real. Jenson went back in time to capture a younger Alonso to be their driver. Free from the emotional baggage of the Vettelreich he is the perfect driver, the only problem was the 'other' Alonso in the way.

The real Alonso is dead, long live time displaced Alonso

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Haha holy poo poo is that real. Please tell me it is.

GramCracker
Oct 8, 2005

beauty by stroll

JFairfax posted:

Fernando Alonso 'thought he was in 1995' after pre-season crash

Spanish driver reportedly lost the memory of the last 20 years of his life following smash in testing

Fernando Alonso woke up from his testing accident unaware he was a Formula One driver having forgotten the last 20 years of his life, according to reports in his native Spain.

Alonso will miss the season-opening Australian Grand Prix on March 15 on doctors’ orders after suffering a concussion. The 33-year-old was briefly unconscious after the crash at the Circuit de Catalunya and, according to Spanish daily El País, he woke up in hospital thinking it was 1995.

Asked who he was, what his job was, and what he hoped to do with his life, Alonso reportedly replied: “I'm Fernando, I drive go karts and I want to be a Formula One driver." Alonso apparently could not remember making his Formula One debut with Minardi in 2001, or either of his world championships in 2005 and 2006.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/11451953/Fernando-Alonso-thought-he-was-in-1995-after-pre-season-crash.html

What :stonk:

Are Ron is the worst. Finish the job like a man, you pussy.

GramCracker fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Mar 5, 2015

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006

Well, McLaren will probably have the same sort of results as 1995, sans fat Nigel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_MP4/10

quote:

The car's main handling problem was a lack of front-end grip, allied to the often unreliable engine. However, the package proved competitive enough for the team to usually be "best of the rest", behind Benetton, Williams and Ferrari


Edit - stolen from Reddit

Fumble fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Mar 5, 2015

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

darth cookie posted:

He may be a complete nincompoop when it comes to current F1 stuff, but GP+ does have some really neat articles about the history of the sport (and often motorsport in general) including stuff from pre WW2.

Here, I'll let you put your money towards an actually great magazine that has many historical articles and interviews with past figures by people who were actually there and such...

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

lol

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014
IM SO BAD AT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT F1 IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY SOME DUDE WITH TOO MUCH FREE MONEY WILL KEEP CHANGING IT UNTIL I SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ACTUALLY POST SOMETHING THAT ISNT SPEWING HATE/SLURS/TELLING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES

Fumble posted:

Well, McLaren will probably have the same sort of results as 1995, sans fat Nigel.

Old Nigel is still available so don't write him off yet.

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

You coulda had a V8/
Instead of a tre-eight slug to yo' cranium/
I got six and I'm aimin' 'em/
Will I bust or keep you guessin'
I hope Alonso just retires, he's never winning another title.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

El Hefe posted:

I hope Alonso just retires, he's never winning another title.

Have faith, you third world coup inciting gently caress. He'll win that 3rd title and still be behind V...e......ttel. Oh no.....

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

You coulda had a V8/
Instead of a tre-eight slug to yo' cranium/
I got six and I'm aimin' 'em/
Will I bust or keep you guessin'
His luck has just been getting progressively worse each year.

He's 100% not winning a title with McLaren anyway.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

El Hefe posted:

I hope Alonso just retires, he's never winning another title.

Hell, he never won one without cheating. Unlike Vettel.

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006

In other news, Giedo van der Garde is trying to put the final nail into Sauber.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/van-der-garde-s-case-against-sauber-to-be-heard-on-monday

The article says he is trying to reclaim his drive for this year, but there is no way that could happen so I guess his end game is a large settlement, but its taking place in a kangaroo court so who knows.

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin

Well the drama has certainly picked up today! WTF Fernando?

quote:

McLaren chairman Ron Dennis admitted last week Alonso suffered retrograde amnesia, which he said was “not uncommon” in cases like this.

Thank you Dr. Ron, I appreciate your expert contribution.

quote:

all we can say is that he is making good progress, and that we hope and expect he will soon be back to his brilliant best

Does this mean he still has some amnesia? Is he not racing because he can't figure out what year it is, or what car he's supposed to drive? This is kind of scary.

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JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
he's brains hosed.

he's regressed to the state of a 13 year old who just wants to drive fast cars and likes animes.

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