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Previous Megathread COMPETE WITH GOONS Excellent forums user Beelzebozo started a list of players and gamertags. You can view it here. If you want to appear on the list, fill out this form! Pops Mgee posted:Someone post the Green Day floating guitar gif please. HelfMyselp posted:Sure. This was preceded by over an entire year of HMX transitioning from outright denial, to deliberate dodginess on the subject, to some pretty heavy-handed hint-dropping such as a surprise renewal of Rock Band DLC delivery in January 2015 (it was originally shut down in April 2013 and laid dormant since), and more or less egging people on via social networking with posts like "If someone were to hypothetically maybe some day think about perhaps maybe oh, I dunno, making a sequel to the Rock Band series, what features would that hypothetical person hypothetically want, hypothetically speaking?" The amalgamous nature of Rock Band, such as everyone using different specially designed controllers, and having different individually-purchased song lists, as well as the deeply terrifying involvement of record labels and music licensing contracts, has previously led to much bumpier transitions between sequels than with other game series, and this time, things are being made even harder by Rock Band's first transition between console generations. The Good:
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Let me finish though by saying Harmonix has shown serious commitment to earnestly developing more stuff for the game and fixing problems and listening to the community. The game's state reeks of bad release timing, not lazy production. FREQUENTLY AXED QUESTIONS Q:What consoles is it for? A: Xbox One and PlayStation 4. Q:Those snakes! What about my investment in the series on Xbox 360 and PS3? A: Everyone else was scared about this too and Harmonix only went forward with the new-gen option after making sure the game would still support old controllers and DLC (which it does). Q: Do I have to buy an Xbox One to access all the poo poo I bought on Xbox 360, and vice-versa for Playstation? A: Yes. Because of lawyers, you are going to have to put up with some serious vendor lock-in here. A lot of people in this thread can be heard grumbling about how crummy the Xbone is after buying one just to play RB4. People like me. Q: Can you export Rock Band 3's songs just like all the other games? A: Yes. You can download the Rock Band 3 soundtrack from the "exports" section of the new store. It costs money. You are only eligible for the export if your gamertag has played RB3 in the past. Q: What about the custom songs community for Rock Band 3? A: When RB4 was announced there were fears that it may curtail the healthy, mod-driven afterlife that Rock Band 3 was enjoying. I'm happy to say that as of 2016 customs are still being produced and RB3 has managed to keep going forward parallel to RB4 thanks to the nerdpower behind it. Kinda like the relation Melee has with all the other Smash Bros. games. Even I made a song! Q: And just who are you? A: If you are in the Pacific Northwest, you can find me at almost every event hosted by SeattleRockBandGroup. This is their Twitter also. In addition, the second Sunday of every month BATTLE ROCK SEATTLE is hosted at the Unicorn, where you can watch me singing harmonies with legendary road crew members Tom Sisco and PMSLammy. I also attend PAX each year and we host the PAX after-party. I stream irregularly and people who want to know when I am somewhere doing something should follow my twitter. My gamertag is "Orange HarrLson" spelled with an L because a dormant account is squatting the proper one. Feel free to add me for either RB3 online or RB4 score chasing. My steam is here. Orange Harrison fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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I've already switched to Project Diva F on my Vita. Sorry.
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Old 360 DLC/imports be damned, I'll just play it on the PS4. Not throwing a few hundred on a new console AND new equipment. Can't wait to impotently flail around on drums once again!
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Bying an Xbone is probably cheaper than rebuying all the dlc I've got on my old 360. Still great news.
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Hope they somehow figure out how to get the RB3 songs in to RB4 considering that game didn't have an export key.
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Astro7x posted:Hope they somehow figure out how to get the RB3 songs in to RB4 considering that game didn't have an export key. If they do it they'll handle it the same way they handled RB1: buy a key for five bucks from the PSN and put the disc in.
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This and Forza have pushed me over to an XBone. A system for 2 franchises.
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suddenlyissoon posted:You 360 --> PS4 people sure are salty. Not nearly as salty as the kids at neogaf though. Not salty I just dont want to buy another whole console so I might just start over on PS4. I understand why I cant have my DLC from my 360.
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Astro7x posted:Hope they somehow figure out how to get the RB3 songs in to RB4 considering that game didn't have an export key. RB3 has an export key. It's machine-printed on the back of the instruction manual, just like RB2. Hell, even The Beatles: Rock Band had an (unused) export key printed. The codes are actually just to individually identify each physical copy of the game, but in the event of exporting, can be used to confirm that only one export-per-disc is performed.
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Orange Harrison posted:RB3 has an export key. It's machine-printed on the back of the instruction manual, just like RB2. Hell, even The Beatles: Rock Band had an (unused) export key printed. Straight from an article: "Due to licensing restrictions, Rock Band 3’s on-disc music will also not be available in Rock Band 4, though Harmonix told IGN that it’s possible that a deal could be reached in the future for this to happen. Songs from The Beatles: Rock Band will also not be making the leap to Rock Band 4."
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Rad Valtar posted:Not salty I just dont want to buy another whole console so I might just start over on PS4. I understand why I cant have my DLC from my 360. It doesn't sound like 100% of old DLC will necessarily be available especially at first, so starting over may not be the giant blow it sounds like.
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I hope there's an export solution for people who bought RB3 as a downloadable game, I don't have my physical copy anymore. Excited to see the new character creator and find out if they've dropped keyboard support or what.
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I honestly thought Rock Band / plastic instrument rhythm games were over with forever. Does Microsoft/Xbox do Rock Band DLC better in some way than Sony/PS4? I know Rock Band was much more popular on the X360 than PS3 but can't remember if there was a reason for it.
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I'm hoping they will still let me connect my actual drumkit. How long did it take last time before they made those adapter thingies?
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Meta Ridley posted:I honestly thought Rock Band / plastic instrument rhythm games were over with forever. Way more people and their friends owned 360s than PS3s over the lifespan of Rock Band so most of us just gravitated to buying it on that platform. I have to imagine that the regular key charts in past songs will be playable on guitar at the least even if there isn't discrete keys support moving forward.
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Rock Band is a prime example of a great product being hosed continuously and painfully by every corporation larger than them. Sony, Microsoft, every recording label they have songs with, the corpse of Michael Jackson, ect. I hope they release another full Foo Fighters album, because playing all of Colour and the Shape is one of my favorite experiences with friends and I'd love to do the same thing with Wasting Light. Dave Grohl is a pretty cool guy and he owns most of his own music so it should be easy right
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Maybe I'm going to wait and see which platform the game is being natively coded for before choosing a side. Plus, I'm positive the Xbone will re-lower their price at least once by the time RB4 is out. Whatever console I buy this year, it is going to be used pretty much exclusively for playing The Rock Bands*, so I'm in no hurry to get one until I need one. *Every other game I care about I play on PC oops. Orange Harrison fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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I am so excited about this.
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Welp, looks like this is going to force my hand to get an XBone. I actually crunched out how much money I spent on DLC over the years and it rang up to something like $700.
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Kelp Plankton posted:I hope there's an export solution for people who bought RB3 as a downloadable game, I don't have my physical copy anymore. Keyboards are gone. I just posted this: Due to licensing restrictions, Rock Band 3’s on-disc music will also not be available in Rock Band 4 E: whoops you said digital.
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Rad Valtar posted:Keyboards are gone. Yeah I was curious if there might be a legal loophole there or something, since it's already a download. Seems unlikely but you never know.
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The saddest part of the loss of keys is in RB3 I had a custom character named Larry Keyes modeled after "Larry" the overweight mulleted NPC that played patty-cake with a Roland synthesizer in HMX's original Guitar Hero games, and now he is orphaned.
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I'm praying for cross-platform DLC even though I have two guitars, a mic and two extra cymbals + some silencers on my drum kit for PS3. I was eventually going to get an XBox this generation but Rock Band is one of those games that can lock me into a console on its own and I didn't think it was ever coming back. I have a lot of DLC but if RB1/RB2/RB3/ACDC aren't portable then I might start over. At least there's a market for the hardware again! Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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I'm probably in. I do wonder though, right now they have said that "all" (and we know that it is going to be the majority, but not all) of the previously purchased songs will become available, at no extra charge to users who bought it all in the first place. I wonder if that means somehow through voodoo magics it might mean that "Hey, RB4 is your first foray into plastic guitar games? Then here, for $100 get the on disk tracks from RB1, RB2, LRB and all previous DLC is half price." Thinking just now, I might be lucky in that I still have the old USB instruments and it might be easier to make an XBONE recognize those over a wireless option. Losing out on the RB3 tracks is a bit of a blow, but I would frankly not be too upset over having to cherry pick and buy just a handful of beloved tracks. We can't get them exported, but Du Hast, Bohemian Rhapsody and 25 or 6 to 4 are all worth a couple bucks each to me. I would hope that they can re-license some of them. EDIT: Also, will this thread still be used to notify about the customs for RB3 or is that its own thread now?
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Shumagorath posted:I'm praying for cross-platform DLC even though I have two guitars, a mic and two extra cymbals + some silencers on my drum kit for PS3. I was eventually going to get an XBox this generation but Rock Band is one of those games that can lock me into a console on its own and I didn't think it was ever coming back. A PS3 last generation and then switch to XBox this generation? That's...definitely a unique approach.
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It's a pretty big bummer for a the majority of pro support to go away. I understand why the cost / profit ratio probably isn't worthwhile for HMX, at the same time RB3 seemed to be a serious push towards getting people to make the jump to real music. It's disappointing to see it resigned to just being a party game again. It doesn't affect me too much as a drummer, but that's just a lucky accident regarding their charting process. There's also the dilemma of platform. I really have zero interest in a One, but it's the only option. I'd actually wouldn't mind reinvesting if it was on the PC -and I'm saying that as somebody with $1000+ invested - just to futureproof it against all the hangups with game consoles. I'm definitely interested but I also feel pretty wary making a $500 - $800 investment all over again unless there's some fantastic new features involved.
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CzarChasm posted:I'm probably in. I do wonder though, right now they have said that "all" (and we know that it is going to be the majority, but not all) of the previously purchased songs will become available, at no extra charge to users who bought it all in the first place. I wonder if that means somehow through voodoo magics it might mean that "Hey, RB4 is your first foray into plastic guitar games? Then here, for $100 get the on disk tracks from RB1, RB2, LRB and all previous DLC is half price." Absolutely impossible, licensing considered. When HMX makes DLC, the recording has to be licensed from the copyright owner, and can only be developed on that specific platform for a specific amount of time. This is why some songs are coming down from the store after 5 years, as 5 years is apparently the length of the contract HMX uses with artists. And the time restriction to intellectual property is also why The Beatles Rock Band was never patched (HMX was no longer legally allowed to develop the game after launch), as well as other oddities like how the Ghostbusters game is unfinished on Xbox 360 because the license to develop on that IP expired before the code could be complete. Funny enough, the PS3 version continued receiving patches and eventually was completed, because Sony owns both the PS3 and the Ghostbusters IP, so they could develop on the IP for free. To bring the content to a new game, HMX has to literally go all the way back and re-license the recording from the copyright holder; even if all the charting and mastering and stuff has already been done, they need to re-license it to release it on something else. That's why on-disc setlist exports have never carried the whole thing over, sometimes the artist changes their mind over the years and declines to license the material a second time around. Actual DLC works slightly differently, as far as what platforms it can be played back on, but the time restriction still exists. CzarChasm posted:EDIT: Also, will this thread still be used to notify about the customs for RB3 or is that its own thread now? Orange Harrison fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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The only thing I don't already have for this will be the game. I'll probably buy the band-in-a-box though just to get new hardware, as my old stuff isn't in great shape. I'm hoping the pro-drums cymbals either just come with that, or the old ones work on the new kit, though.
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Kelp Plankton posted:Excited to see the new character creator and find out if they've dropped keyboard support or what. Pro Guitar and Keyboard support is gone. They said that they are going back to the "core" instruments, but still supporting Pro Drums. Meta Ridley posted:Does Microsoft/Xbox do Rock Band DLC better in some way than Sony/PS4? I know Rock Band was much more popular on the X360 than PS3 but can't remember if there was a reason for it. 360 had more of the Rock Band Network songs, and then we would get the Best Of hits on the PS3 many weeks later I believe. I also don't think there was ever any custom song hack for the PS3. Kelp Plankton posted:Yeah I was curious if there might be a legal loophole there or something, since it's already a download. Seems unlikely but you never know. Huh? You could never export the RB3 songs. I was also disappointed about this because I wanted to play those tracks in Blitz.
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I am so very glad I got a great deal on XBone at Thanksgiving. I was going to get a PS4 but I got the Xbox for $150 cheaper when it was all said and done. (Gift card, incuded games, etc.) I hope our nice wooden strats still work.
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Oh jeez, going to take some work to figure out some of my old PS DLC share login stuff. Think I went through 3 groups.
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CzarChasm posted:I'm probably in. I do wonder though, right now they have said that "all" (and we know that it is going to be the majority, but not all) of the previously purchased songs will become available, at no extra charge to users who bought it all in the first place. I wonder if that means somehow through voodoo magics it might mean that "Hey, RB4 is your first foray into plastic guitar games? Then here, for $100 get the on disk tracks from RB1, RB2, LRB and all previous DLC is half price." It'd be really nice to get the majority of the first 3 CDs in some kind of discounted pack. All my RB poo poo from 2 and 3 was on the Wii so I'd be starting out at square one on the PS4. Overall I'd really love to get back into doing Rock Band, especially in a new apartment, but if it just takes too much money to get the previous base content then it would really not be worth it.
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I think I'm going to wait for more information before having a paranoia attack over which platform to go with. I probably will twist the girlfriend's arm and go with a clean slate on the PS4 if giant chunks of content like RB3 aren't coming over anyway.
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Welp, just found out that two of the buttons on my plastic gretsch don't work unless you press them REALLY HARD, and overdrive doesn't work too well on my RB1 guitar. Guess I'm in the market for new instruments
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Kenderama posted:I hope our nice wooden strats still work. Anyone going to PAX East to get the exclusive PAX-themed guitar can sit on it. I have a PAX-endorsed wooden Strat controller for X360 autographed by Gabe and Tycho and every 2014 Enforcer and given out as the grand prize in the PAX after-party raffle. You literally cannot touch the controller in any way. There are so many enforcers, every single exposed surface has been autographed and even picking it up is a real puzzle.
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Glad I ended up playing on PS3 last generation since it was in my living room and the 360 was in the bedroom. Hope the instruments work.
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This is the worst best news I could ever possibly hear.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:It's a pretty big bummer for a the majority of pro support to go away. I understand why the cost / profit ratio probably isn't worthwhile for HMX, at the same time RB3 seemed to be a serious push towards getting people to make the jump to real music. It's disappointing to see it resigned to just being a party game again. It doesn't affect me too much as a drummer, but that's just a lucky accident regarding their charting process. Pro guitar was a great idea, but terrible execution due to the need for a rare, expensive pro guitar or a 150 button monstrosity that doesn't function as a real guitar. Rocksmith has already solved the issue and I'd prefer HMX stick to the core of what they do well than get caught up in feature bloat.
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The worst part about losing keys is my dream of playing "Empty Pages" by Traffic is now officially dead.
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Guys, I don't think you will be able to play "Like a Fool" in RB4, considering the pack it was licensed to has expired. Moment of silence for top-tier DLC. Same for "Don't Stop Believing." Douche4Sale posted:Pro guitar was a great idea, but terrible execution due to the need for a rare, expensive pro guitar or a 150 button monstrosity that doesn't function as a real guitar. Orange Harrison fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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