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grrarg posted:The stronghold looked awesome in the presentation. The list of upgrades to build kept going and going. The only thing I didn't like about the stronghold is that apparently you get it halfway through the game? I thought you got it a lot earlier than that.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The only thing I didn't like about the stronghold is that apparently you get it halfway through the game? I thought you got it a lot earlier than that. I don't know; I'd rather get it halfway through and have it slightly more content dense rather than have it be stretched thin the entire game. I'm sure there's other stuff to do before that midway point.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:29
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The only thing I didn't like about the stronghold is that apparently you get it halfway through the game? I thought you got it a lot earlier than that. Since the critical path is 25-33% of total content, you can likely get to it quickly if you ignore a lot of sidequests.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:37
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Don't spend too much time in the Hinterlands.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:41
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The Crotch posted:Don't spend too much time in the Hinterlands. What a weird (and bad for playing) design choice that whole thing was.
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The Crotch posted:Don't spend too much time in the Hinterlands. But... I need more iron.
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Drifter posted:Half the reason to play these games is for the character interactions. Good god, man. Honestly I found the characters in Baldur's gate and Baldur's gate 2 mostly pretty dire. I realise I am in a minority on this tho!
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Mar 8, 2015 05:26
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How old were you when you played them though? IMO the BGs were aimed at a younger audience. loving loved that poo poo when I was younger but I don't play those games for the NPCs anymore. When I was a teenager I didn't like Edwin very much, but on my more recent playthroughs I've been using him, Viconia, Korgan etc instead.
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Mar 8, 2015 05:28
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Yeah, all the people who think Sera is terrible better not still think Minsc is the bomb.
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Mar 8, 2015 05:31
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It's Jan the gnome who has aged the poorest. At least Minsc doesn't say a lot and will bond with Aerie (and will berserk when Korgan kills her) which is cool. But Jan is obnoxious, useless, and just talks and talks and talks.
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Mar 8, 2015 05:52
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I'm replaying (well, playing for the first time) BG 1 right now (I'd played BG 2 when it came out years ago). So far Minsc is entertaining either way. The only really jarring note has been the priestess of the "Bitch Queen."
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Mar 8, 2015 05:58
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MartianAgitator posted:It's Jan the gnome who has aged the poorest. At least Minsc doesn't say a lot and will bond with Aerie (and will berserk when Korgan kills her) which is cool. But Jan is obnoxious, useless, and just talks and talks and talks.
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Mar 8, 2015 06:01
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There was a gnome thing in DAO?
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Jan is actually way better than Minsc in every way. (Except for actual usefulness in combat.)
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Sensuki posted:How old were you when you played them though? IMO the BGs were aimed at a younger audience. loving loved that poo poo when I was younger but I don't play those games for the NPCs anymore. When I was a teenager I didn't like Edwin very much, but on my more recent playthroughs I've been using him, Viconia, Korgan etc instead. I was 11 or 12 when I played BG1 (in French!) and maybe 15 when I played BG2? I just remember hating Imoen. A lot. HE CEST MOI IMOEN And then most of the other characters were either stupid (minsc) or boring (khalid) - at least to my brief impression before I abandoned them. Plus I remember when I discovered that you shared XP I was shocked, appalled etc. MY XP! MINE!
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Mar 8, 2015 06:27
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Jackard posted:There was a gnome thing in DAO?
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MartianAgitator posted:It's Jan the gnome who has aged the poorest. At least Minsc doesn't say a lot and will bond with Aerie (and will berserk when Korgan kills her) which is cool. But Jan is obnoxious, useless, and just talks and talks and talks.
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Mar 8, 2015 06:37
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Nah that was Gromnir (who's still around)
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So far Minsc is entertaining either way. The only really jarring note has been the priestess of the "Bitch Queen." Really? I always liked "The Bitch Queen brooks no insolence" line.
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The Crotch posted:Either he's thinking of Sandal or he's talking about NWN2.
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Basic Chunnel posted:Nah that was Gromnir (who's still around)
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Who could ever dislike Minsc, he had a space hamster! Seriously its been years since I've played the games what the gently caress was that hamster about.
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StoneOfShame posted:Who could ever dislike Minsc, he had a space hamster! Seriously its been years since I've played the games what the gently caress was that hamster about. He was a brain damaged Ranger with a heart of gold. Like literally brain damaged they are not subtle about him receiving very recent blows to the head when you recruit him. That's it. That's the joke.
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StoneOfShame posted:Who could ever dislike Minsc, he had a space hamster! Seriously its been years since I've played the games what the gently caress was that hamster about. But in answer to your question, it was (a) probably a part of the Bioware writers' D&D game, which was goofy as hell (as all fun tabletop games inevitably must be) and (b) a convenient way to circumvent probable sperg rage about rangers having animal companions when the game's engine didn't readily accommodate the concept. Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Mar 8, 2015 |
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Mar 8, 2015 07:23
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Basic Chunnel posted:Giant Space Hamsters were a thing from Spelljammer, intelligent livestock farmed by space gnomes (naturally). I think the miniature variety were mentioned offhand in the book but Bioware might have made them up. Yeah I kinda thought that was part of the joke, dude thought he was a ranger because of the head trauma and hamster, because really who makes a two-handed ranger? Then Dynaheir just plays it off like it's nothing. But she knows.
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Basic Chunnel posted:Giant Space Hamsters were a thing from Spelljammer, intelligent livestock farmed by space gnomes (naturally). I think the miniature variety were mentioned offhand in the book but Bioware might have made them up. They had an official Monstrous Manual stats, they were created by Krynn Tinker Gnomes who went into SPAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCEEEEEEE and then infested every other crystal sphere.
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Dragon magazine did have the stats on a wide variety of space hamsters including the miniature dwarf petite giant space hamster which through a highly sophisticated breeding program was indistinguishable from a normal hamster.
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Mar 8, 2015 07:59
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The best character was Xan. He was just being 100% honest the entire time.
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Mar 8, 2015 08:17
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Chairchucker posted:Jan is actually way better than Minsc in every way. (Except for actual usefulness in combat.) Jan is the best npc in any of the BG games.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The only thing I didn't like about the stronghold is that apparently you get it halfway through the game? I thought you got it a lot earlier than that.
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Oasx posted:Jan is the best npc in any of the BG games. I never ever used him.
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Mar 8, 2015 08:57
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evilmiera posted:Not until possibly the expansion. Is that confirmed? I thought they said they'd consider it for the expansion?
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Furism posted:Is that confirmed? I thought they said they'd consider it for the expansion? Isn't that what the "possibly" implies?
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drgnvale posted:Isn't that what the "possibly" implies? Yeah, ok, I shouldn't post before 2nd coffee.
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Mar 8, 2015 09:26
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I always took that as a super polite way of saying 'no.' Relatively few people actually played the Infinity Engine multiplayer, and it would be a ton of work to make it not suck with the realtime with pause combat.
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When you get a visitor like that drunkard guy in the Stronghold interface, can he actually be found inside the map itself?
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Mar 8, 2015 09:36
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Sensuki posted:When you get a visitor like that drunkard guy in the Stronghold interface, can he actually be found inside the map itself? I would assume not, otherwise killing him would've been a third option.
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Has there been any talk about porting PoE to Unity 5 like inXile is doing with W2?
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Eddain posted:I would assume not, otherwise killing him would've been a third option. You're right about them probably not being present in the area, but if you kill him you could just get a fairly long debuff to the Stronghold (poor prestige for killing a visitor).
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Hating on Minsc and Jan Jansen, is this what society has become?
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