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I'm liking this part quote:Masters races were also said to have middle-aged businessmen winning on EPO, with some of them training as hard as professional riders and putting in comparable performances. Some professional riders explained they no longer ride in the Gran Fondos because they were so competitive due to the number of riders doping.
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Also how riders know they can still micro-dose with impunity and use the ABP to help dope within the limits by following their blood profile. They will also schedule high altitude testing around their programs as cover and play the Where Abouts System making frequent and last minute changes.
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Mar 9, 2015 01:15
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Yeah heh they're the worst *looks over shoulder nervously, tugs at collar, flushes assorted powders down the toilet*
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The bit about riders being used as mules for blood is mental. Getting transfused several units before crossing a border then extracting it and dishing it out  Pocket posted:Also how riders know they can still micro-dose with impunity and use the ABP to help dope within the limits by following their blood profile. They will also schedule high altitude testing around their programs as cover and play the Where Abouts System making frequent and last minute changes. I don't think it says this at all. Riders have adapted to the testing (and lack of it at night) by micro dosing and using ABP numbers to stay below 50% but the gains are much lower then it used to be though it has given me an idea for a study Loving Africa Chaps fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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Mar 9, 2015 01:19
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They're calling for testing to be allowed any time, including the middle of the night, no excuses. Pretty much pushing the line of "evasion counts as admission".
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Mar 9, 2015 01:38
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Ok, at what point does that become a bit unreasonable? I'd be interested to see what other occupation requires that the participant be available to have their blood drawn at any time. Is there a limit on how often? Imagine pissing someone off who is in control of the testing program. If you're a GC contender, you'll be hard pressed to compete if you keep getting woken up in the middle of the night during races and having blood drawn repeatedly.
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Mar 9, 2015 01:46
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Evasion already counts unless you're in Mallorca
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Mar 9, 2015 01:47
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Not stalking you or anything. Paddyb posted:Stybar is becoming what Sagan was supposed to have become. Truth. Sagan is massively overrated and gets sackridden like 1000% too much, Stybar is grouse as. Paddyb posted:List of sprinters, lol Mtn Qhubekca Fuckin love how they dont even bother including Matt Goss on their sprinters lol Oh and something about doping goes here.
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Mar 9, 2015 06:11
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Box Hill Strangler posted:Stybar is grouse as. Can we get this translated from  to  or  ?
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Mar 9, 2015 06:46
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Stybar is really great and cool. Which I guess in canadian is "Stybar is oot of control eh?"
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Mar 9, 2015 06:55
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LordPants posted:Stybar is really great and cool. Thank you, but I'm from the west. The hoser "oo" is an eastern thing. Also eh is dead unless you're a braindead hockey player. Also where I live is technically in the American west linguistic Group (Physically closer to Seattle than Vancouver), and basically I sound like someone from Seattle, but exhibit parts of the Canadian shift, but to a lesser degree than most and not on both vowel sounds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Shift In closing, kindly gently caress yourself. Gibbo fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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Mar 9, 2015 06:56
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:It's here: https://caferoubaix.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/cycling-independent-reform-commision.pdf The report is amazing - and to think cycling is doing probbaly more than any sport to get rid of doping. Can you imagine how bad it is in less regulated sports?
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The UCI tried to avoid Contador getting caught. They never learn. Edit The saddest thing in that entire thing is the stuff about the amateur and youth levels becoming endemic with doping. You always hear stories of poo poo like that but you never want to believe that theres 14 year old kids sticking needles in themselves just to win a junior race. serious gaylord fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:I don't think it says this at all. Riders have adapted to the testing (and lack of it at night) by micro dosing and using ABP numbers to stay below 50% but the gains are much lower then it used to be though it has given me an idea for a study I was maybe a bit too sleepy last night with the word impunity but essentially anyone who wants to cheat can do it without getting caught. It points out the use of corticosteroids for getting that impossible lean look Sky are famous for.
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Mar 9, 2015 09:47
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I'm glad that they've mentioned the overuse of tranquilizers and Tramadol and poo poo thats probably why no-one in the peloton can ride a bike for poo poo anymore too.
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Mar 9, 2015 09:55
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The poo poo about getting up in the middle of the night to ride a stationary in order to force your gloopy blood to circulate makes me think of Jason Statham films.
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goatface posted:The poo poo about getting up in the middle of the night to ride a stationary in order to force your gloopy blood to circulate makes me think of Jason Statham films. No wonder none of them want to do the tour of beijing. All that time on the airplane not moving.
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Mar 9, 2015 13:05
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serious gaylord posted:The UCI tried to avoid Contador getting caught. They never learn.
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Mar 9, 2015 15:26
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In 2010 that's exactly what happened? Previous reports have already alleged it (2013?)
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Xabi posted:How did you come to that conclusion? They said there wasnt enough evidence to prosecute a ban and only went ahead with it after Wada and German TV blasted it all over the news. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/circ-contador-given-favourable-treatment-by-uci-after-2010-tour-de-france-doping-positive serious gaylord fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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Mar 9, 2015 15:35
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The report didn't find any cover-up though, and the "favourable treatment" seems to be that they - the UCI - travelled to Spain to tell him about his sample. Hardly shocking, if that's all there is to it.
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Mar 9, 2015 15:56
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There's a bit at the end about never telling the riders what the results were unless they're banning them or they've found signs of something that needs medical treatment.
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Mar 9, 2015 16:02
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Pretty boring stage in Paris-Nice so far, so boring that Boonen fell asleep and fell down.
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Mar 9, 2015 16:03
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How long has the tommy v break been away?
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Mar 9, 2015 16:17
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Giant/Degenkolb really should have done better there.
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Cat Terrist posted:The report is amazing - and to think cycling is doing probbaly more than any sport to get rid of doping. Can you imagine how bad it is in less regulated sports?
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The Deadly Hume posted:*side-eyes tennis* Eh, it's fine in tennis. Everyone in the top 60 lives in Monaco and has infinite money for equal footing on all the drugs. Modern tennis is way better to watch as a result. And even with the drugs, Andy Murray still can't go for more than 3 hours. As opposed to bikes where no drugs makes it a bit more entertaining because you get people blowing up on climbs instead of everyone just coasting over a mountain like it's nothing.
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Gibbo posted:Eh, it's fine in tennis. Everyone in the top 60 lives in Monaco and has infinite money for equal footing on all the drugs. Modern tennis is way better to watch as a result. And even with the drugs, Andy Murray still can't go for more than 3 hours. Lots of tennis players (other than Fed) have legs that look like they belong to pro cyclists nowadays. Crosstraining with PhilGil, Gerrans, and whoever else is in Monaco? Or roids. Sprint game is shaping up to be Kristoff, Cav, Guardini, at least so far. Poor Haussler can't bag a win since nats, still rolling in 5th/6th in the sprints. The Aussie jersey just adds to the sadness. Kittel is somehow...still sick? Or out of shape. Several guys (Coquard, Bouhanni, Swift, Viviani) knocking on the door, but just can't seem to beat Kristoff. Also, what is the point of Tour de Langkawi? Just seems like a couple of pro-tour, pro-conti teams show up to troll some poor south-east asian teams year after year. How many stages did Belkin hoover up last year?
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borapt posted:Lots of tennis players (other than Fed) have legs that look like they belong to pro cyclists nowadays. Crosstraining with PhilGil, Gerrans, and whoever else is in Monaco? Or roids. I'm not saying they aren't juiced to the gills. I'm saying they're all juiced to the gills on the most modern poo poo.
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Paddyb posted:How long has the tommy v break been away? I'm going on vaca in South Africa and in charge of renting cars for a few legs. Despite slightly cheaper options from Hertz or other familiar American brands, I said to myself, Voeckler's put in his time; I'll go with Europcar.
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Ag2R rider Mondory has just been popped for EPO. The UCI are considering having them investigated ala Astana.
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Mar 10, 2015 16:36
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lol French riders don't dope dude.
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Mar 10, 2015 17:05
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He must not be a true frenchmen then! http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mondory-returns-adverse-analytical-finding-for-epo
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Mar 10, 2015 17:24
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Something must be wrong with the test
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Pocket posted:Something must be wrong with the test No no no, epo, not test.
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Mar 10, 2015 23:22
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Nobody talking about Boonen loving his season up in a prep race because they are lazy or they discounted him chances anyway? I was under the impression he was fit, strong and to be feared.
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Pocket posted:Nobody talking about Boonen loving his season up in a prep race because they are lazy or they discounted him chances anyway? I was under the impression he was fit, strong and to be feared. He looked really good so far but ultimately hes failed in every race so far. I don't think he'd have done anything major in the classics.
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He'd always be an element in a break, someone that people would spend effort marking. That alone can give a team a win like in P-R last year no one wanted to react to Terpstra because the group had at least one other QS waiting to jump.
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Yeah I can see your point. Sepp vanmarcke is who i'd be worried about. He's been a mechanical away from dominating 2 races.
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Pocket posted:Nobody talking about Boonen loving his season up in a prep race because they are lazy or they discounted him chances anyway? I was under the impression he was fit, strong and to be feared. well after years of "TOMMEKE!" and "TOM TORNADO" from the belgians, I kinda burned out on him.
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