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Byers2142 posted:JJ was a cop, and he said he voted me. So if what you are saying is true, at least one of you and PMom is lying. Hmm? I don't understand how I factor in here.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Hmm? I don't understand how I factor in here. Sorry, meant Murmur Twin. Not sure how I transposed you two.
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Mar 10, 2015 14:19
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 poo poo I meant to quote and hit edit on the last pageI just changed the word "cops" to scum where I bolded, hopefully someone can confirm that. Wow, I've messed up quote != edit before, but not the other way
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Mar 10, 2015 14:29
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Murmur Twin posted:
I can confirm that, because I remember being very confused by what you'd typed and intended to ask you about it once I had a moment.
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Byers2142 posted:I can confirm that, because I remember being very confused by what you'd typed and intended to ask you about it once I had a moment. There was slightly more that I missed; thankfully I still have the old post in my cache. Hopefully this suffices:  Original: Wall Monitor posted:I'm trying to decide if Murmur is town or not. I voted for Ernie, if Murmur was #3 then he said he was voting for Ernie... that's two votes. So either #3's ernie talk was intended to throw scum roleblockers/nk off the trail (good idea), everyone else voted WM or the two WM votes got in first to cause a tiebreaker, or Murmur is scum who got a scum result on someone and named me as the false target with town result instead to build up some credit when I do flip town. #5 (Ep+ I believe?) said he was voting for WM on Sunday night because he was under the impression that night actions needed to be in. I thought I had made a mistake about the voting deadline not being moved up so I joined in at like 11:56pm. The next day there was discussion about where the vote should go (and MMM said we could have a mulligan due to the ambiguity on the deadline) and I was honest about who I thought would be a good target, but I was afraid of two cops being in that room and moving the vote to the NK target so I figured that two votes to cop WM (that were put in Sunday) would be a safe bet to get a result. It might not have been the most optimal play, but it felt like the safest. Poison Mushroom posted:I can't really, in any fairness, comment on the honesty or fakeness of MT's posts. She always pings me as scum, and I'm never sure why. You're still making a mistake, though. Please feel free to case me if there are any posts in particular of mine you think appear scummy! No one ever cases me King Burgundy posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTpxeNQfDo4
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wall monitor posted:Shhh, saying you don't have a ballot narrows down the list of people who do. It's the same reason you don't claim vanilla town. What? I don't understand this logic.
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Mar 10, 2015 15:16
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Meinberg posted:What? I don't understand this logic. Sorry, are we still not claiming ballots?
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Mar 10, 2015 15:24
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wall monitor posted:Sorry, are we still not claiming ballots? Oh huh, I thought everyone realized how stupid it was not to claim. Everyone in the roleblock doc came to that realization at least.
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Mar 10, 2015 15:28
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Also, Byers, it may have been subtle, but Murmur Twin was claiming that she performed the cop action on wall monitor last night and got a town result. Unless I horribly misread things! There's especially no reason to hide this information after the fact. What is scum going to do, kill the person that -used- to be the doctor?
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Mar 10, 2015 15:29
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Meinberg posted:Also, Byers, it may have been subtle, but Murmur Twin was claiming that she performed the cop action on wall monitor last night and got a town result. Unless I horribly misread things! Yeah, this is why I'm not voting wall. The debate was who Murmur voted to use the cop on.
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Mar 10, 2015 15:32
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Byers2142 posted:Yeah, this is why I'm not voting wall. The debate was who Murmur voted to use the cop on. This is why I shouldn't read my Mafia threads right when I wake up.
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Mar 10, 2015 15:53
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I was Doctor Voter number 1. So I genuinely don't know why Ernie didn't get mine, unless he's not allowed to have two ballots in the same room?
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Mar 10, 2015 19:03
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Poison Mushroom posted:FOR gently caress'S SAKE PLEASE LYNCH SOMBER TOMORROW. Poison Mushroom posted:Hal confirmed for Somber's scumbro. If you don't lynch one of them tomorrow, you all deserve to lose. You seemed really sure about this, what went wrong? quote:I also owe Little Mac an explanation about my hard read-claims on Hal. It is, however, 1:30 in the morning right now, so I'm not super lucid. The short version is that I can't think of any legitimate motivation to admit to voting out of self-preservation for its own sake. Therefore, there must be an outside reason. Therefore, it seems reasonable to assume that the reason is in-game, rather that out-of-game. (There's no use trying to predict what out-of-game events might cause a reaction, that way lies madness.) On a scale of 1-10 how sure do you feel that Hal is scummy? quote:I can't really, in any fairness, comment on the honesty or fakeness of MT's posts. She always pings me as scum, and I'm never sure why. You're still making a mistake, though. For serious though, what makes you say this game? It's a fair opinion, but I feel like I've come across as "pretty obviously townl" (which I have been) in the last few games we've been in together and you've never cased me that I can think of, so this felt out of the blue. Is there a post or two that set off said gut read?
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Mar 10, 2015 19:30
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Murmur Twin posted:You seemed really sure about this, what went wrong?
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Mar 10, 2015 19:40
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I did vote byers. Can we focus on how/why wall monitor was the cop target (if he really was at all?)
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Mar 10, 2015 22:21
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jon joe posted:I did vote byers. Can we focus on how/why wall monitor was the cop target (if he really was at all?) Well, I voted for him. Can't speak for anyone else, of course.
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Mar 10, 2015 22:35
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Phone posting in the hopes I'll be able to read the answers when I get home. Hal and Pmush what can you tell us about the doc room yesterday? Any information would be helpful. Things discussed. Votes made. Etc.
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Mar 10, 2015 23:08
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I'm pretty certain I performed the roleblock. I blocked Wall Monitor. I now have a doctor ballot.
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Mar 10, 2015 23:12
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Unless everyone in the RB room got a PM saying "You roleblocked wall monitor successfully."
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Mar 10, 2015 23:12
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Little Mac posted:Unless everyone in the RB room got a PM saying "You roleblocked wall monitor successfully." I did not receive such a PM. I will admit to voting for wall monitor, I had my doubts about him yesterday.
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Mar 10, 2015 23:35
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Poison Mushroom posted:Alright. Let's get this rolling then. Pmush comes at the game in a really analytical and detached way, tries to set the agenda/frame the discussion by naming three people she thinks will be in danger of being cuddled (naming herself as well), and doesn't really make any sensical alignment calls on either LM or Hal. I'm p. sure this post is 100% manipulation. ##vote pmush
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Mar 11, 2015 00:03
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jon joe posted:I did vote byers. Can we focus on how/why wall monitor was the cop target (if he really was at all?) Murmur Twin posted:#5 (Ep+ I believe?) said he was voting for WM on Sunday night because he was under the impression that night actions needed to be in. I thought I had made a mistake about the voting deadline not being moved up so I joined in at like 11:56pm. You said you were in the cop room, right? Poison Mushroom posted:I thought Somber was putting up an act, and was reading Hal's posts in the context of a scum Somber. I'm still feeling scum Hal, but it changes the timber of a lot of what he said before deadline yesterday. To me, the natural reaction upon feeling super sure about a lunch target and being wrong would be to question my other reads and see what other targets I could find. This answer doesn't feel town to me. Also, I agree with PMom's read. ##vote PMush I'm curious - did anyone send me a ballot?
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Mar 11, 2015 00:32
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Murmur Twin posted:Also, I agree with PMom's read. Agreed, I've been wondering if PMush would make that post as scum ever since she made it, and given the hal ballot claim, I'm thinking she wanted to make as much noise as possible before tanking the game. ##vote pmush
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Mar 11, 2015 00:34
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Don't hammer early. I'd like to get all the information out there. But I agree with the current direction. I feel like we all need to claim any ballots we have and where we plan on sending them tomorrow at a minimum. Also, we all need to have discussed anything we are going to discuss in our voting rooms, and submit our votes.
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Mar 11, 2015 00:42
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I have two games going to deadline tonight, and I have to feed my kid and put him to bed, but I have a bunch of information to post. Probably a few hours out.
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Mar 11, 2015 00:43
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I'm in the roleblocker's room, and I'm sending my ballot to Ernie. Again.
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Mar 11, 2015 00:46
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Listen, docs? Protect KB. Dude got three roleblocker ballots, from Meinberg, Little Mac, and PMom. I do not see all three of those players being scum, and hence I have a strong town feeling about KB.
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Mar 11, 2015 00:48
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Byers2142 posted:Listen, docs? Protect KB. Dude got three roleblocker ballots, from Meinberg, Little Mac, and PMom. I do not see all three of those players being scum, and hence I have a strong town feeling about KB. Seconding this. Just so it's here: Day 1 Starting Rooms: COP - Ernie, Wall Monitor, Murmur Twin, Jon Joe, Epsilon Plus DOC - Hiipfire, Hal, PMush, Fast Luck, Somber RB - Little Mac, King Burgundy, Meinberg, PMom, Byers
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Mar 11, 2015 01:11
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OK I am home from work I havent been in either doc today let me go vote before anyone does anything crazy ok thanks
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Mar 11, 2015 01:27
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Ok. Spill the beans people. Hal and Pmush, please tell me what went down in Doc room, yesterday. Who was voted, etc. And everyone, please claim today's ballots if you have not already and where you are sending them for tomorrow. I'm about to place all my votes/send my ballots, so if you haven't already gone into a voting room I'm in to petition for who you think we should be voting, you should do that as well.
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Mar 11, 2015 02:20
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I know pretty much everything that happened in or relating to the Roleblock room. I know some of what went down with Cop room. I know very little about Doc. I think I know where 13 of the current ballots are.
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Mar 11, 2015 02:34
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FYI, I will not be here for deadline tonight. I'm pretty happy with my PMush vote.
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Mar 11, 2015 02:41
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King Burgundy posted:Ok. Spill the beans people. Basically nothing happened in the doc room. PM said nothing of value (if she was really voter 1), I said nothing of value, voter 3 never spoke, voter 4 and 5 had a little convo where they accused each other of being scum a bit but no one really talked about voting that I can recall.
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Mar 11, 2015 02:42
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I wish I was cool enough to be in a room.
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Mar 11, 2015 02:42
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##vote Pmush thought I was doing that already!
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Hal Incandenza posted:Basically nothing happened in the doc room. PM said nothing of value (if she was really voter 1), I said nothing of value, voter 3 never spoke, voter 4 and 5 had a little convo where they accused each other of being scum a bit but no one really talked about voting that I can recall. Voter 3 was Hiipfire I believe. He said he didn't talk. Who did you vote for? No one has claimed the doc action. So we don't know who was theoretically doc'd, or why, or anything.
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Murmur Twin posted:I wish I was cool enough to be in a room. Who did you send your ballot to? Also, can you explain the WM/Ernie thing again? You basically said you didn't revote so your vote would be earliest, is that right? But it didn't sound like that was coordinated at all. Maybe we should also hear from Epsilon on this.
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Mar 11, 2015 02:47
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King Burgundy posted:Voter 3 was Hiipfire I believe. He said he didn't talk. I think I voted for somber actually (oops) but I can't even 100% remember. I voted like two days before deadline because I thought I was going to miss the original deadline and no one was coming up with any sort of plan.
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Doctor ballot was pretty much dead in D1 until people started getting prodded in thread about how dead it was. I was the replacement, so felt weird about being the first one to talk in there, plus I wasn't really sure what to say. I'm fine with being lynched if it keeps people from thinking Ernie's scum, I feel like his posts are coming from a pretty genuine place.
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