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I gotta say, as someone who hates trailers, pretty much all the trailers I've seen lately that I've loved are for documentaries.
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Any suggestions for organized crime documentaries? Mafia/Russian organized crime/cocaine era gangs/whatever. I remember there being a couple Russian organized crime/prison gangs documentaries that were well received a few years ago, but I can't remember any of their names.
Gringo Heisenberg fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Feb 13, 2015 |
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Gringo Heisenberg posted:Any suggestions for organized crime documentaries? Mafia/Russian organized crime/cocaine era gangs/whatever. I remember there being a couple Russian organized crime/prison gangs documentaries that were well received a few years ago, but I can't remember any of their names. The Mark of Cain
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# ? Feb 13, 2015 07:39 |
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Gringo Heisenberg posted:Any suggestions for organized crime documentaries? Mafia/Russian organized crime/cocaine era gangs/whatever. I remember there being a couple Russian organized crime/prison gangs documentaries that were well received a few years ago, but I can't remember any of their names. I just finished watching a 30 for 30 documentary on Netflix about the Boston College point shaving scheme and it was pretty entertaining.
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 04:37 |
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Gringo Heisenberg posted:Any suggestions for organized crime documentaries? Mafia/Russian organized crime/cocaine era gangs/whatever. I remember there being a couple Russian organized crime/prison gangs documentaries that were well received a few years ago, but I can't remember any of their names. Whitey: The United States vs James J Bulger is pretty good.
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# ? Feb 15, 2015 05:00 |
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Any good documentaries about the Spanish Civil War kicking around? Currently reading through For Whom the Bell Tolls It tolls for thee! and it has sparked an interest in the conflict.
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# ? Feb 16, 2015 21:25 |
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Only one of the best docs EVER at your service. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT8q6VAyTi8 e: And this is the original version with narration by Orson Welles instead of Hemingway. Both are good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX0RseyGo7g Kull the Conqueror fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Feb 16, 2015 |
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NutritiousSnack posted:Anyone here see Red Army? Saw it and Leviathan as a double feature. The ending to this was the perfect summary of that entire interview.
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Since we're into documentaries and I haven't seen it mentioned yet: Bruce Sinofsky died at the age of 58.quote:http://variety.com/2015/film/news/bruce-sinofsky-paradise-lost-trilogy-director-dies-at-58-1201438514/ The Paradise Lost/WM3 Movies led me on a 20 year obsession and involvement with that case. I haven't seen the Metallica movie or his other films but I want to. Figure I'd post this here just FWIW.
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# ? Feb 23, 2015 20:26 |
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Crossposted from the Netflix thread:Zwabu posted:I'm going to recommend Maidentrip, a chronicle of Dutch teenager Laura Dekker's solo circumnavigation of the globe in a 40 foot sailboat, a journey that took place in the period where she was ages 14-16 (it was not a nonstop trip, she took lengthy stops at the end of each ocean crossing to travel and visit, make repairs etc.).
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# ? Feb 24, 2015 16:53 |
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India's Daughter, about a brutal rape and murder that started a firestorm of protest in India and led to changes in their law and maybe even in their culture. It was banned from being aired in India a couple days ago because the government was concerned it would incite more violent protests. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W6WrShqKGE Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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http://www.vocativ.com/world/india/rapist-lynched-bbc-documentary/quote:Rapist Lynched After BBC Rape Documentary Aired Welp.
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This is a very 2+2=5 thing considering the doc didn't even air in India, yet there's an implication of some kind of connection. Zzz
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# ? Mar 6, 2015 09:14 |
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We're having a screening of Hands on a Hard Body at work.... I can't wait! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzj-vb7Lj0A
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 15:56 |
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Bobcat Goldthwait made a doc coming out shortly about Barry Crimmins, a standup comic who was sexually abused repeatedly as a child and went on to help people who'd been through similar trauma. Interesting for not only the subject matter, but because not only is Bobcat Goldthwait the director, but it was funded by Robin Williams before his passing. http://www.traileraddict.com/call-me-lucky/featurette-meet-the-artists El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Mar 12, 2015 |
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And, of course, Barry Crimmins was Bobcat Goldthwait's (and Tom Kenny's) mentor.
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These Humble Bundle documentaries I got are 0 for 3 so far, unless the Mojang documentary suddenly stops being self-aggrandizing fluff about the game and becomes an actual documentary. Even things made to celebrate something (like the TMNT documentary) don't worship the source this much. This was praised? At least it isn't a documentary about people with beards acting like having a beard makes you a victim of racism.
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Lurdiak posted:At least it isn't a documentary about people with beards acting like having a beard makes you a victim of racism. What was this?
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 10:36 |
That sounds so loving stupid. I want to watch it.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 15:54 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGt1ujQugE8 It's so boring.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 16:49 |
Well those guys sure are dedicated to them beards. I guess that trailer was pretty much all I needed to see, if that is the documentary as a whole.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 17:09 |
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I dunno why Devolver studios thought going into the film business was a good idea.
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It's not like the topic is the problem. You can make a documentary about the most asinine thing if you make it right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyjS0Xdzrlc
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Has anyone else been watching the news today about Robert Durst? If you don't want to spoil yourself don't check it. All I'll say is that if you haven't caught up for the season finale of HBOs true crime series The Jinx by tonight...oh man I'm excited.
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Ropes4u posted:I don't remember it being mentioned here before, but if you have a desire to be angry, or to rage against the flaws in the American justice system Kids for Cash is up in Netflix. The documentary is occasionally slow but my wife and I thought it was time well spent. I found the topic interesting but the actual movie not very good. As you said, it was slow but it was also edited in a way that made each scene have less impact then it could have even though they were trying to generate tension.
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I finally got around to watching Citizenfour. I enjoyed it but in a different way than I was expecting. The issue is so important and that lends some credence to the film, but I didn't walk away from it feeling any more informed than I was already on the subject. I thought it did a really good job of conveying the tension in the people involved leading up to Edward's coming out as the whistleblower. The scene with the fire alarm testing was really important to the overall feeling I got from the film. I guess I was expecting it to be more of a factual dissection of the issues brought to light by Edward's leak, but instead it ended up being a window into the experience of the data being leaked. I was taken by surprise but ended up really enjoying it.
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amazeballs posted:I finally got around to watching Citizenfour. That's excellent because I far prefer character docs to "issue" docs. Oh dear goodness people. Watch the Jinx. The final episode was a great ride.
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I found the film incredibly boring and was surprised at how little discussion there was of the actual content of the files. The files are the interesting thing not footage of some guy sitting around in a hotel room.
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Cocoa Ninja posted:Has anyone else been watching the news today about Robert Durst? If you don't want to spoil yourself don't check it. This is one of those things that you cannot sit down and think you'll only watch one episode. Fantastic.
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mintskoal posted:This is one of those things that you cannot sit down and think you'll only watch one episode. Fantastic. What do you think of the intro? Part of me loves it and is stoked for some cold cases when the gun goes off and the singer yells, and my friend thinks it's too much like True Detective. Although it sets up some amazing moments from cold open to intro, like the finale:Son of a BITCH! *dum dum dum dum* Cocoa Ninja fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 16, 2015 |
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Cocoa Ninja posted:What do you think of the intro? Part of me loves it and is stoked for some cold cases when the gun goes off and the singer yells, and my friend thinks it's too much like True Detective. I actually haven't watched True Detective but I think the entire series of The Jinx is incredibly well done and is far above the quality of most docs I've seen. The intro is great!
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I'm only a few episodes in (and it's fascinating as hell so far, really well made) and the very second I first saw the intro I thought of True Detective. Seriously if they just about copied it as is for season 2 I wouldn't bat an eye.
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Well, the show more or less took the True Detective timeslot since Pizzo has been so delayed in his writing, so it makes sense that HBO maybe would have 'advised' a similar style where they could. In preparation for the finale of The Jinx I re-watched Capturing The Friedmans and boy, did I like it even less the second time around. So much so that it likely soured my viewing of the finale. Where do DocGoons stand on the film? Especially on Jarecki himself? Given that I dislike that doco and disliked All Good Things I'm surprised that I liked The Jinx so much, since it's essentially those two things smashed together.
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I spoiled myself on The Jinx by reading Durst's Wikipedia page moments before I saw the first episode today and if you intend to watch the doc, here's a hint: Don't read the Wikipedia page like a dumbass. Still, incredibly riveting stuff and the last episode had me, literally, sitting on the edge of my couch. And on top of being spoiled, I sort of ruined the very last moments of it for myself by trying to see his "confession" from the point of view of a defense lawyer and him saying "I killed them, of course I did." could be argued as him being sarcastic after being a suspect for the murders for such a long time as in, "Of course I'm the murderer [because that's what everyone thinks.]"
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Viginti posted:
I watched Capturing the Friedmans a long time ago and remember that it dealt with pedophilia and was depressing but can't remember much specific about it. Could you go into more detail about why you didn't like it? (maybe it'll jog my memory about it)
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# ? Mar 17, 2015 03:14 |
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Well Jarecki says he 'accidentally' stumbled into the story while trying to make another documentary, which is suspect. The way he treats the case seems initially to be even-handed, but turns out to be pretty biased in favour of the accused (which isn't inherently bad for a movie, its just troubling when you advocate unannounced) who he is supporting and shifting the story in favour of. The way that he chooses to pace the reveal of certain critical facts - those that he didn't just exclude altogether - is misleading in a way that goes beyond simple storytelling technique. Etc. Overall my issue is that he clearly has an agenda in making this movie, but he hides it throughout and many have accused him of doing so to align himself with the praise the film first received during festival showings. There is a movie to be made about the difficulty of rationally handling a case like this, one that involves children, and the way that some societies don't fare well in doing so; The Hunt is an excellent example of this. There is also a place for movies that try to bring to light what appear to be mishandled cases and miscarriages of justice; West of Memphis, etc. Though despite containing these elements that's not really what Friedmans is, it's something seemingly more malicious than either of those; propoganda hidden behind the veil of objectivity, a personal act presented as that of a stranger. Whatever Jarecki's relationship with the family was before filming he seems to have gotten too close to them to make this movie in the way he was trying too, they are too much a part of it, his camera too close (to the point that he uses their footage for a majority of the screentime)and because of that it's warped things in worrying ways. People praise the movie as an example of ambiguity, of the fact that there are no facts, that you can never truly know the truth and it can operate as that, but I don't believe that was the intention for the film going in. It's hard to nail it down, but there's something very troubling about the way that the movie is made.
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# ? Mar 17, 2015 03:36 |
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Les Blank's A Poem is a Naked Person was shown for the first time in public last night at SXSW, and it is a great work of direct cinema. I was so happy to hear at the end from Blank's son that it's gonna get a summer release from Janus and then a Criterion bluray. Any doc fan has to see it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6KpbMxxV64
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Viginti posted:Well Jarecki says he 'accidentally' stumbled into the story while trying to make another documentary, which is suspect. The way he treats the case seems initially to be even-handed, but turns out to be pretty biased in favour of the accused (which isn't inherently bad for a movie, its just troubling when you advocate unannounced) who he is supporting and shifting the story in favour of. The way that he chooses to pace the reveal of certain critical facts - those that he didn't just exclude altogether - is misleading in a way that goes beyond simple storytelling technique. Etc. But intent sort of doesn't matter. It's the end result. So regardless of what Jarecki intends to do with that movie, the final result is what it is. To be honest I've not seen it in a while so I don't know exactly what the objections are. What's his agenda exactly? From memory I've always thought that it was fairly even handed, and while the father was certainly guilty, it was less clear if Jesse was (And still isn't. The prosecution have still refused to hand over their evidence against him, despite having a court order telling them to). As for your Jarecki's 'suspect' story, I don't think that's fair. He shot and completed a short film called 'Just a Clown' about children's entertainers before he knew about the Friedman's story. I believe that it all started from him interviewing the victims and then decided to entwine the story about the accused and the accusers. Even though Jarecki has since come out and said the case against Jesse was handled poorly I still think that he successfully sows in enough ambiguity to cast doubt upon everyone.
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# ? Mar 17, 2015 15:27 |
Anyone seen decent documentaries lately that would be of interest to people in social services? Alive Inside was good, as was Living on One Dollar in a different way.
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GreyPowerVan posted:Anyone seen decent documentaries lately that would be of interest to people in social services? Alive Inside was good, as was Living on One Dollar in a different way. Not sure if this is of any interest, but Gideon's Army is about public defenders in the south. It's infuriating but excellent.
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