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surebet posted:while home births (and even homeschooling) aren't especially popular in my neck of the woods, i'd wager that in regions where that's more popular there must be a ton of kids who are lacking some/all documentation, especially if one of the various flavours of government distrust are driving that kind of behaviour if he was in that no bc/no documentation boat, he'd be hosed beyond belief
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surebet posted:while home births (and even homeschooling) aren't especially popular in my neck of the woods, i'd wager that in regions where that's more popular there must be a ton of kids who are lacking some/all documentation, especially if one of the various flavours of government distrust are driving that kind of behaviour it's pretty typical for very rural areas that parents will wait to get them ssns until the kids are like 15/16 and can start working, they'll still fill out a birth certificate or at least register the birth with their local church though.
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is that still typical? I know that used to be the case but a lot of that kind of record keeping has been tightened up since 9/11
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Phoenixan posted:i know 3 people who were homeschooled, 2 of which are my cousins, and they all come from batshit insane fundie parents. one of said cousins decided he wasn't so religious anymore and his parents cut almost all ties with him. oh dear, the further i dig into this... quote:Form DS-10: Birth Affidavit either your parent or a direct medical witness can underwrite the request, so with a home birth you really depend on your parents to sign the drat papers e: Nintendo Kid posted:it's pretty typical for very rural areas that parents will wait to get them ssns until the kids are like 15/16 and can start working, they'll still fill out a birth certificate or at least register the birth with their local church though. quote:Early Public Records that home birth/school combo will really be an issue when they try to fix the issue later though things might work differently where i live but don't americans need to submit their ssn with anything before they start working? i mean if they use any kind of gov't benefits the agencies need to keep track of services rendered, so either ssn or state identification of some kind? surebet fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Mar 13, 2015 04:56
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I wonder if a bunch of lovely news articles will count in a decade in a half when that kid tries to get a drivers license
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isn't infant baptism mostly a Catholic thing? seems kinda odd that that would make it onto the list e: whoa wait what the gently caress is a "Family Bible record"
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indigi posted:isn't infant baptism mostly a Catholic thing? seems kinda odd that that would make it onto the list probably a family tree written in the back/front of a bible? ...i hope? 
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Mar 13, 2015 05:46
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The Glumslinger posted:I wonder if a bunch of lovely news articles will count in a decade in a half when that kid tries to get a drivers license (if only they were posted to a shittynewsarticleschain)
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surebet posted:things might work differently where i live but don't americans need to submit their ssn with anything before they start working? i mean if they use any kind of gov't benefits the agencies need to keep track of services rendered, so either ssn or state identification of some kind?
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Mar 13, 2015 05:53
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Can't the kid prove his status with a DNA test?
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MeLKoR posted:Can't the kid prove his status with a DNA test? first obama threatened to take are GUNS and now he's threatening to take are BLOOD
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Muscle Tracer posted:probably a family tree written in the back/front of a bible? yeah, families often had (have?) a fancy bible with blank spaces in the front or back for a chronological listing of births, marriages and deaths. anthonypants posted:not counting the w-4 form used to determine your withholding or any number of forms for healthcare or payroll taxes, nowadays there's an i-9 form, courtesy of the department of homeland security, which is used to determine your employment eligibility and keep those illegals from stealing are jobs the I-9 has been around since the '80s, but nobody cared until the men with guns started taking it seriously again post-9/11
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Muscle Tracer posted:probably a family tree written in the back/front of a bible? My family has one. It's how I found out I was supposed to have a little sister three years younger than me instead a little brother four years younger. 
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Midjack posted:My family has one. It's how I found out I was supposed to have a little sister three years younger than me instead a little brother four years younger.
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none of this matters cuz the kid will die of measles before he's three hth
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anthonypants posted:uncooperative parents who won't sign a form will for sure submit to a blood test, good idea. that will def prove the time and place of birth. Aren't you a US citizen regardless of place of birth as long as your parents are citizens? If the parents won't cooperate I'm sure there are other family members that would and probably a court could order the parents to provide samples for a test anyway otherwise no paternity suit could be proved ever.
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Midjack posted:My family has one. It's how I found out I was supposed to have a little sister three years younger than me instead a little brother four years younger. a guy a year older than me was supposed to exist in my place 
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Midjack posted:My family has one. It's how I found out I was supposed to have a little sister three years younger than me instead a little brother four years younger. e: oh derrrr i didn't read this Tayter Swift posted:a guy a year older than me was supposed to exist in my place
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MeLKoR posted:Aren't you a US citizen regardless of place of birth as long as your parents are citizens? If the parents won't cooperate I'm sure there are other family members that would and probably a court could order the parents to provide samples for a test anyway otherwise no paternity suit could be proved ever. There aren't necessarily other family members, and even if there are, they may be as crazy and uncooperative as the parents. (And you're automatically a US citizen if you're born on US territory, but if you're born overseas there's a bunch of requirements related to your parent's citizenship/national status, residency history and whether or not you're a bastard.)
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how do they get people to submit to paternity tests for child support? surely there's some legal framework for that also wtf if you can just write someone's fuckin name down in a book in your house why doesn't she be like "oh hey I found are family bible lol there I am" e: wait are you guys above me saying there are ghost/dead children's names written in your family bible
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indigi posted:e: wait are you guys above me saying there are ghost/dead children's names written in your family bible yes. you write every birth in the bible. sometimes they die and then you make a new one and don't tell the new one. you don't gently caress with the bible blockchain.
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indigi posted:isn't infant baptism mostly a Catholic thing? seems kinda odd that that would make it onto the list no, it's common in most traditions, there are just prominent exceptions
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rjmccall posted:no, it's common in most traditions, there are just prominent exceptions It's notably absent from a few big ones, too. Primarily Baptist. Only Catholics get baptized during a montage of all your father's enemies being murdered, though.
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Gobbeldygook posted:yes. you write every birth in the bible. sometimes they die and then you make a new one and don't tell the new one. you don't gently caress with the bible blockchain. that's Bananacake City Limits weird
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MeLKoR posted:Aren't you a US citizen regardless of place of birth as long as your parents are citizens? MeLKoR posted:If the parents won't cooperate I'm sure there are other family members that would and probably a court could order the parents to provide samples for a test anyway otherwise no paternity suit could be proved ever.
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theflyingorc posted:Only Catholics get baptized during a montage of all your father's enemies being murdered, though. lol if you don't properly celebrate the birth of your son
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Judges cant see him because his birth wasnt registered.
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FrozenVent posted:lol if you don't properly celebrate the birth of your son also lol if you haven't already murdered your enemies by the time your son is born
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anthonypants posted:only if the parents are married A US citizen lady who has a baby has a US citizen baby (if she registers the birth as such), whether she's married to the father (or sperm donor) or not. Marriage is only relevant when the father is a US citizen and the mother isn't. And now there are provisions for addressing that in any case, which is honestly pretty loving late to the party, but still. AlbieQuirky fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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this ought to get the buttlords goingquote:(Reuters) - International Business Machines Corp is considering adopting the underlying technology behind bitcoin, known as the "blockchain," to create a digital cash and payment system for major currencies, according to a person familiar with the matter.
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dubzee posted:said the source, who declined to be identified because of a lack of authorization to discuss the project in public.
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AlbieQuirky posted:A US citizen lady who has a baby has a US citizen baby (if she registers the birth as such), whether she's married to the father (or sperm donor) or not. Marriage is only relevant when the father is a US citizen and the mother isn't. And now there are provisions for addressing that in any case, which is honestly pretty loving late to the party, but still. I follow a blog of some psuedo-hippies that roam around that decided to have their kids in Mexico (like a poster previously commented on, it's insanely cheap even if the baby needs intense care) quote:At the end of the day this is what it cost us. The c-section delivery added about twenty percent to the cost because of the extra surgeon on hand and the extra day in the hospital needed for recovery. But as you can see the cost was still extremely reasonable. We recommend Dr. Laura and have already said that if we have more children and it is at all possible we will be coming back to Puerto Vallarta and her again. This was the ideal experience for us. ...and to register the birth and get US citizenship for the baby all it takes is basically an afternoon trip to the embassy to fill out a few forms. Getting that baby a passport is a bureaucratic nightmare but getting it US citizenship is trivial.... unless you wait like 16 years... quote:There is a bit of paperwork involved, but nothing much more than proving to the embassy that the baby is indeed ours and was born while we were here. The paperwork basically requires pictures of [the mother] during pregnancy, some documentation from the doctor, and a four ounce filet off of the placenta. No, not really.
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embedded anonymou ibm butter spews poo poo to make bitcoin seem relevant. there's no way ibm uses an actual blockchain thing and expose itself to the wrath of a thousand angry coiners with asics an deal with the massive inneficiency if anything they'll do another centralized token system and that's it
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lol if u have to pay money to have a babby
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jony ive aces posted:lol if u have to pay money to have a babby yeah it's supposed to be the other way round
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MisterOblivious posted:I follow a blog of some psuedo-hippies that roam around that decided to have their kids in Mexico (like a poster previously commented on, it's insanely cheap even if the baby needs intense care)
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jony ive aces posted:there's also this american woman with rear end in a top hat fundie parents who basically responded by saying "omg our heathen daughter left us what a betrayal!" I found the Youtube video, one of the top comments is a bitcoiner throwing shillings at people. Beyond that, sovcits and more bitcoiners screaming about big evil government and raging at her for not understanding how lucky she is.
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have they taught Watson to say buttcoin?
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unpacked robinhood posted:embedded anonymou ibm butter spews poo poo to make bitcoin seem relevant. there's no way ibm uses an actual blockchain thing and expose itself to the wrath of a thousand angry coiners with asics an deal with the massive inneficiency so i think saying "ibm will definitely not do this terrible idea" is not guaranteed because so far the idea is already terrible
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