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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
Alonso is seeing the Ferrari being the closest competitor to the Merc and weeping some more.

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DAAS Kapitalist
Nov 9, 2005

Jackass: The Mad Monk

Don't try this at home.
And the instant the cars are out of reach of the Australian courts Sauber will tell him to gently caress off.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

DAAS Kapitalist posted:

And the instant the cars are out of reach of the Australian courts Sauber will tell him to gently caress off.

The cars will be impounded before they leave just to stop this happening.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


Riso posted:

It's still a big fat no. Sauber has to do it.

sauber already did it, but it was too late. they WILL do it if the courts force them to. all i'm asking is if you can apply for a super license within the season, and i assume that you can.

Boar It
Jul 29, 2011

Mesmerizing eyebrows is my specialty
Anyone tried F1 access? There's a free month trial so I figured I could give it a go. But this site is either bugged or badly designed. Because there's no way to actually sign up, just log in buttons everywhere.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

be nice wicka posted:

sauber already did it, but it was too late. they WILL do it if the courts force them to. all i'm asking is if you can apply for a super license within the season, and i assume that you can.

You can apply for a super licence at any time. You just need enough points to satisfy it.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


serious gaylord posted:

Alonso is seeing the Ferrari being the closest competitor to the Merc and weeping some more.

tbf i think his relationship with ferrari has been toxic for years and he left for many more reasons than simply thinking he had a better shot at the title with mclaren. and mercedes is going to win anyway so it's irrelevant

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

serious gaylord posted:

Alonso is seeing the Ferrari being the closest competitor to the Merc and weeping some more.

He is the Pastor Maldonado of his generation.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
At least Kimi is still poo poo.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

be nice wicka posted:

sauber already did it, but it was too late. they WILL do it if the courts force them to. all i'm asking is if you can apply for a super license within the season, and i assume that you can.

quote:

One of the biggest question marks concerns his superlicence, as the FIA has a process that has to be followed. The team has to apply via the driver’s national sporting authority, and Sauber has failed to do that.

Also one of the conditions is that the Contracts Recognition Board is happy with the legal side. It was revealed in court today that Monisha Kaltenborn wrote to the CRB last week to tell them that Van der Garde’s contract had been terminated in February.

Unusually this letter came after the Swiss arbitration court judgement which is at the centre of this week’s proceedings, and which said that the Dutchman should drive. In effect that contract now has to be re-activated at the CRB, and any delay at this critical stage helps Sauber to stop van der Garde driving.

From Adam Cooper. Sauber has to tell the CRB that he has a valid contract first. They didn't do this so any application wouldn't have succeeded and won't until they do. All they had to do was wait out the clock until it was too late for him to be given a license, and that seems to be what they did.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
The fact they told the CRB that his had been terminated after the court decision means they're going to prison.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

serious gaylord posted:

The fact they told the CRB that his had been terminated after the court decision means they're going to prison.

They then tried to tell the courts he couldn't race because he had no super license as a part of their defence, which was entirely their doing but something that could have been resolved up to 48 hours before the start of the event. They simply waited until he couldn't get one and the seat fitting this morning was merely to feign compliance with the court order.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

serious gaylord posted:

Alonso is seeing the Ferrari being the closest competitor to the Merc and weeping some more.

Alonso is dead.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
And Ron Dennis has killed him.


Fraud Car, Fraud Engine.

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006

Human Grand Prix posted:

And Ron Dennis has killed him.


Fraud Car, Fraud Engine.

Its not a car, its an elaborate time machine. They tried to use it again today, but the flex capacitor failed to engauge before it hit the wall. They are aiming for 1994 to bring back Senna and you have to admit Alonso's 1995 wasnt bad for the first try.

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin

serious gaylord posted:

The cars will be impounded before they leave just to stop this happening.

Can they be entered into the race if they're being towed by the repo trucks?

I wonder if Moesha was trying to trick VDG into racing without a license, and getting him banned for it. Solves her problems.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


i just hope one of the two parties has a grand scheme that will unveiled. i don't care who wins i just want it to be shocking.

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008


College Slice

be nice wicka posted:

i don't care who wins i just want it to be shocking.
I'm sure Alonso disagrees with you.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Sashimi posted:

I'm sure Alonso disagrees with you.

Boomshakalakakaka.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
I think Honda were making engine noises in the R&D department for 2 years to trick people into thinking things were actually being accomplished.

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin

Human Grand Prix posted:

I think Honda were making engine noises in the R&D department for 2 years to trick people into thinking things were actually being accomplished.

Ron on the phone: "So how are things going?"
Honda tech: "vvvvvvVVVVVrrrrrrRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeemmmmm!" Hey guys, stop revving so high, I can't hear Ron. It's going so good. Um, gotta go."

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


did anyone else catch magnussen talking to his engineer about the engine having poor power delivery? it sounded like the whole car was shuddering while he was accelerating. that was FP1 though so imagine he was describing a symptom of the problem they found. in testing everyone kept saying the honda was very driveable when it wasn't broken.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014



be nice wicka posted:

did anyone else catch magnussen talking to his engineer about the engine having poor power delivery? it sounded like the whole car was shuddering while he was accelerating. that was FP1 though so imagine he was describing a symptom of the problem they found. in testing everyone kept saying the honda was very driveable when it wasn't broken.

The consensus is that when working the engine is a decent engine and doesn't suffer from lumpy power delivery like Renault and Ferrari last year. The main problem is they're unlikely to have it working anytime soon.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


1500quidporsche posted:

The consensus is that when working the engine is a decent engine and doesn't suffer from lumpy power delivery like Renault and Ferrari last year. The main problem is they're unlikely to have it working anytime soon.

that's what i've heard as well so i figured it was an issue and not the normal behavior of the engine. the NBC stream of FP1 had no commentary so you could really clearly hear the way magnussen was explaining the problem. it was awesome.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
this formula1.com redesign is loving garbage much like the mclaren

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




Clarkson put it best when he stated that Honda should just stay the gently caress out of F1. Even if they win, what are we going to do? Buy their boring RAV4s?

Aqualung
Oct 10, 2005

Don't worry guys, Ron knows the guy who drives the crane.

Rated PG-34 posted:

Clarkson put it best when he stated that Honda should just stay the gently caress out of F1. Even if they win, what are we going to do? Buy their boring RAV4s?

:laffo:

Gotta sell those Corollas and Camrys.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Rated PG-34 posted:

Clarkson put it best when he stated that Honda should just stay the gently caress out of F1. Even if they win, what are we going to do? Buy their boring RAV4s?

Believe it or not at one point they actually made exciting cars.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014



Human Grand Prix posted:

Believe it or not at one point they actually made exciting cars.

The NSX was like 20 years ago.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

1500quidporsche posted:

The NSX was like 20 years ago.

26. S2000 and Integra/Civic Type-Rs.

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin

1500quidporsche posted:

The consensus is that when working the engine is a decent engine and doesn't suffer from lumpy power delivery like Renault and Ferrari last year. The main problem is they're unlikely to have it working anytime soon.

I don't know... is that report coming from "Honest Ron" Dennis?

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Renault also is very successful racing wise but builds a good car like, once every 10-15 years.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




With the Sauber thing, F1 drivers get their contracts terminated all the time yet lawsuits never happen from them. What makes the VdG situation different from every other contract termination?

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

DOOP posted:

With the Sauber thing, F1 drivers get their contracts terminated all the time yet lawsuits never happen from them. What makes the VdG situation different from every other contract termination?

They've stolen money from him, then didn't perform their side of the contract. He paid millions for a race seat. They took the millions, then didn't give him a race seat. It's not the same as firing the driver in the normal course of business.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

Human Grand Prix posted:

Renault also is very successful racing wise but builds a good car like, once every 10-15 years.

The Clio Cup and Megane RS are pretty drat good, theres always a tonne of clio cups at trackdays here, although they hosed up the current version by giving it a lovely gearbox. The current Megane RS is pretty well liked though.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014



CratSock posted:

I don't know... is that report coming from "Honest Ron" Dennis?

A couple of sources have said that in testing. Honest Ron was too busy making sure his eyebrows had an equal number of hairs on each side to comment.

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin

OK, good to know. That seems entirely plausible, actually.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


i own a honda

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

track day bro! posted:

The Clio Cup and Megane RS are pretty drat good, theres always a tonne of clio cups at trackdays here, although they hosed up the current version by giving it a lovely gearbox. The current Megane RS is pretty well liked though.

The Megane RS is badass but we're never getting Renaults again.

Human Grand Prix fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Mar 13, 2015

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Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Prince John posted:

They've stolen money from him, then didn't perform their side of the contract. He paid millions for a race seat. They took the millions, then didn't give him a race seat. It's not the same as firing the driver in the normal course of business.

So what makes this case different than McLaren taking Sergio Perez' Carlos Slim money and then telling him to gently caress off a year later. Specific contract details for VdG and not Perez?

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