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Also nobody watched The American President. Actually I saw it and it's bland as poo poo and forgettable. Sports Night had much better walk/talk scenes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-va0tWJLTc
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Steven Universe has surpassed Gravity Falls this week for favorite animated show currently airing, and Gravity Falls had a fantastic mid season finale. If you watched the first few episodes of SU and found it to be too childish, give it another try.
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lelandjs posted:Gravity Falls had a fantastic mid season finale. I have to give Gravity Falls credit, in the decade since LOST made it cool to hide tons of hints and clues everywhere it's the first show I can think of that actually managed to have a big twist that was planned from the beginning and foreshadowed for years in a way that diehards were able to suss out but always stayed squarely in the background and was still ambiguous enough to be a surprise when it happened.
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Mar 13, 2015 04:09
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lelandjs posted:Steven Universe has surpassed Gravity Falls this week for favorite animated show currently airing, and Gravity Falls had a fantastic mid season finale. Steven Universe is the one that out of nowhere had some sort of trans allegory, right?
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Mo0 posted:Steven Universe is the one that out of nowhere had some sort of trans allegory, right? It was a bit more complicated than that, really. There was a lot going on in that episode. I'm still not really sure how I interpret it. The trans reading is a valid one, but it's hardly the only one. It can also be read as an illustration of how people, when a couple, often behave as a single person (and often in ways they wouldn't behave by themselves). The episode also serves as an example of a male experiencing the male gaze from a female's point of view. It has a LOT to say about gender, but not in a heavy-handed or preachy way. The episode in question is "Alone Together" if anyone's curious. I highly recommend it, but I'm sure if it works as a standalone episode. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ The latter. asecondduck fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Mar 13, 2015 04:29
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Mo0 posted:Steven Universe is the one that out of nowhere had some sort of trans allegory, right?
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Steven Universe is nuts and fantastic and the finale was loving incredible. I do feel bad that GF finally does something to excite me and then SU tops it three days later, but them's the breaks. Also I still prefer Adventure Time to either although I think the format it has these days has a lot to do with that. SU is also a little too anime-y tbh, although it barely ever affects it in a negative way.
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Bown posted:Steven Universe is nuts and fantastic and the finale was loving incredible. I do feel bad that GF finally does something to excite me and then SU tops it three days later, but them's the breaks. Tonight's episodes definitely upped the anime quota a decent amount. And I know a lot of people have been hating on Adventure Time recently because of the direction it's taken but I still really enjoy it. The Diary I thought was especially good. (I actually forgot about Adventure Time in my previous post. And Archer. gently caress, there's too much good animated television right now for me to really establish a "favorite show"... but I still think it might be SU). [Edit: gently caress it, currently airing animated show rating: 1. Steven Universe 2. Gravity Falls (when it actually airs, which is pretty much never) 3. Adventure Time 4. Bob's Burgers 5. Archer Honorable mention: Gumball, though I haven't watched it since November, so I can't really opine on the recent episodes. And an all time animated show rating (must have aired at least three seasons/been cancelled prematurely): 1. Justice League ± Unlimited 2. Clone High 3. Avatar: The Last Airbender 4. Adventure Time 5. Bob's Burgers Honorable mention: Animaniacs, which almost placed 5th. Disqualified: Simpsons and Futurama, each for wearing out their welcome.] [Second edit: Argh, forgot South Park. Trying to make ratings lists is hard and dumb.] asecondduck fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Mar 13, 2015 04:46
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greys anatomy just tried to make a suspenseful moment out of transferring a phonecall from one phone to another. "i hope i dont screw this up"
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FamDav posted:greys anatomy just tried to make a suspenseful moment out of transferring a phonecall from one phone to another. As someone who had to transfer calls from drug addicts looking for help to people that would help them I can confirm the suspense. Drug addicts get really upset when you gently caress up a call transfer.
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Mar 13, 2015 06:05
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That "We are the Rosebuds" commercial or whatever is really stupid. I know this isn't the commercials thread bu t make sure they get the message. Also tell them that the girl in the Taco Bell commercial is hot. Thanks
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FamDav posted:greys anatomy just tried to make a suspenseful moment out of transferring a phonecall from one phone to another. I've been working in my office for 2 years now and I don't know how to transfer calls.
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Mar 13, 2015 06:22
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lelandjs posted:It was a bit more complicated than that, really. There was a lot going on in that episode. Man, that sounds like a barrel of fun.
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Irish Joe posted:Man, that sounds like a barrel of fun. What, you don't like male gaze in your children's cartoons? Trans allegories in light entertainment aren't your cup of tea?
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Mar 13, 2015 11:11
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Irish Joe posted:Man, that sounds like a barrel of fun. What makes these shows good is that they always manage to be funny and entertaining above all else, while also giving people lots to mull over if they so wish. (well, Adventure Time doesn't always manage this, but mostly.)
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Mar 13, 2015 11:43
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Yeah, Steven Universe is good, but I prefer Gravity Falls by a country mile. Also, I know I'm streets behind on this but Fargo is really amazing. It's much better than True Detective which, looking back, hasn't left much of an impression on me, but seemed to get a lot more buzz.
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Fargo is amazing, yeah. But I can't agree with you about GF. I love it and it's probably the most well-made of the three (dat Disney money, yo) but if anything the 20-minute runtime hurts it because every episode has to have that typical sitcommy structure. Plus Alex Hirsch thinks he's a lot funnier with pop culture satire than he actually is. We get it, Alex. You're amused by the word 'cray'.
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Mar 13, 2015 12:53
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Viginti posted:Here's a decently in-depth interview with Emmerich about directing, might be of interest: This is a great interview -- thanks for sharing it. Also, drat, Noah Emmerich is really articulate and well-spoken.
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Bown posted:What makes these shows good is that they always manage to be funny and entertaining above all else, while also giving people lots to mull over if they so wish. (well, Adventure Time doesn't always manage this, but mostly.) Yeah, that's nice and all but then that also leads to having to skip over pages and pages of college freshman level analysis of the deep themes present in children's cartooons.
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Mar 13, 2015 13:46
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raditts posted:Yeah, that's nice and all but then that also leads to having to skip over pages and pages of college freshman level analysis of the deep themes present in children's cartooons. Only if you go look for pages and pages of college freshman level analysis of the deep themes present in children's cartoons. Where do you post or frequent that this is a major issue? I watch both of those shows and don't give a poo poo about the silly readings people have of them, and I never manage to encounter them either.
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raditts posted:Yeah, that's nice and all but then that also leads to having to skip over pages and pages of college freshman level analysis of the deep themes present in children's cartooons. No, you're right. Shows shouldn't try to be deep and meaningful because it might mean you have to scroll through some stuff you don't like on the internet.
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Bown posted:No, you're right. Shows shouldn't try to be deep and meaningful because it might mean you have to scroll through some stuff you don't like on the internet. Have you seen the Adventure Time thread at this point?
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Mar 13, 2015 14:53
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Steven Universe is practically an honorary anime in that its fans always go "seriously it's good even if you're not into anime" and then you watch it and it's terrible because it still has all the stuff in anime that you hate.
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Mar 13, 2015 14:58
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PriorMarcus posted:Only if you go look for pages and pages of college freshman level analysis of the deep themes present in children's cartoons. Where do you post or frequent that this is a major issue? The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV
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IRQ posted:Have you seen the Adventure Time thread at this point? Then don't go in the thread, you can still mostly enjoy the show on a surface level or else kids wouldn't adore it.
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Mar 13, 2015 15:10
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LORD OF BUTT posted:Then don't go in the thread, you can still mostly enjoy the show on a surface level or else kids wouldn't adore it. I don't, but it kind of sucks that this is pretty much the default for most show threads at this point isn't it? "X show thread is terrible" gets posted so much in here that we should just not bother and only say anything when a thread isn't poo poo.
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Sleeveless posted:Steven Universe is practically an honorary anime in that its fans always go "seriously it's good even if you're not into anime" and then you watch it and it's terrible because it still has all the stuff in anime that you hate. Things about anime I hate: 1. Fan service 2. Lazy shortcut/"Emoji" expressions (nosebleed, sweat drops) 3. Giant over the top battles with overpowered characters 4. Badly written female characters (go ahead, counter this example, I dare you) Steven Universe has absolutely none of that. I'm not saying SU doesn't have its roots in anime (christ, it's an Americanized magical girl shoujo) but to say that it has the bad qualities of anime is to be in denial about what makes anime bad. Alternatively, it is possible to make an Americanized anime that features all of the above and still be very, very good. Avatar: The Last Airbender hits all those points except the last one. The Matrix hits all of them besides the second one. asecondduck fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Mar 13, 2015 15:17
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I like the anime Noir.
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PriorMarcus posted:Only if you go look for pages and pages of college freshman level analysis of the deep themes present in children's cartoons. Where do you post or frequent that this is a major issue? Here?
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lelandjs posted:4. Badly written female characters (go ahead, counter this example, I dare you) Do you mean post examples of good female anime characters? Because the only ones I can think of all come from Cowboy Bebop.
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PriorMarcus posted:Do you mean post examples of good female anime characters? Because the only ones I can think of all come from Cowboy Bebop. Yeah I should've said "try and counter this without using Bebop or Miyazaki".
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raditts posted:Here? Oh. I've never even read the threads for those shows except Gravity Falls then, but college level analysis occurs in every thread here, and was seemingly conceived in CineD. It's not really limited to the cartoon ones, I don't think so at least. lelandjs posted:Yeah I should've said "try and counter this without using Bebop or Miyazaki". I'm tapped out then.
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PriorMarcus posted:Oh. I've never even read the threads for those shows except Gravity Falls then, You choose wisely. quote:but college level analysis occurs in every thread here, and was seemingly conceived in CineD. It's not really limited to the cartoon ones, I don't think so at least. At least most CD threads are somewhat readable, none of the masturbatory deaf arthur poo poo in CD comes even close to the battle of rabid one-upsmanship of who is the most insightful like cartoon threads (except when it comes to superhero movies I guess). There's a reason why a certain one must not be named, after all.
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In non-animation chat (I'm not just a one trick pony), TiVo has acquired Aereo's assets. They didn't get the patents, but I'm kinda hoping that this means I'll be able to stream local channels over my phone without TiVo Stream (since TiVo can prove that I own, and use, an antenna).
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Mar 13, 2015 15:43
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raditts posted:You choose wisely. It's not overanalysis if the college-level readings are confirmed correct by the writers of the show. That's just analysis.
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GreenNight posted:I like the anime Noir. I hadn't heard of it before, it sounds pretty good. Too bad it's not on Netflix.
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lelandjs posted:Yeah I should've said "try and counter this without using Bebop or Miyazaki". I'm gonna go ahead and take this bait, but I'm going to take it with the caveat that, assuming you even agree, this is one of those exceptions that proves the rule. But there's a show that's been running called Shirobako -- a slice-of-life workplace dramedy about five twenty-something girls working at the bottom rungs of the anime industry -- that's been killing it in this area. It plays a little like an Aaron Sorkin series without his Limousine Liberal condescension or his weird hangups about women, technology, or millennials. And anything you might hate about anime is only present in the shows-within-the-show, which you only get tiny glimpses of. If you have any tolerance for anime, keep an eye out for it. Okay, I'm gonna go sit in the corner and think about what I've done.
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It's really not worth engaging with the cliche goon prejudice against anime, simply because it is the equivalent of trying to converse with people who would write off all scripted American cable TV based on the prevalence of Pawn Stars style 'reality' programming. It's wilful ignorance proudly masquerading as some sort of superior taste.
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DivisionPost posted:I'm gonna go ahead and take this bait, but I'm going to take it with the caveat that, assuming you even agree, this is one of those exceptions that proves the rule. But there's a show that's been running called Shirobako -- a slice-of-life workplace dramedy about five twenty-something girls working at the bottom rungs of the anime industry -- that's been killing it in this area. It plays a little like an Aaron Sorkin series without his Limousine Liberal condescension or his weird hangups about women, technology, or millennials. And anything you might hate about anime is only present in the shows-within-the-show, which you only get tiny glimpses of. If you have any tolerance for anime, keep an eye out for it. Not gonna lie, I was kinda baiting in the hopes that people would recommend anime that has well written female characters. Seems to be working pretty well so far! Looks like it's on Crunchyroll, I'll check it out. [Edit: 8 minutes in and a character's jealous of another character's breast size. I mean, I guess that's a thing that happens, but to actively speak up about it? I dunno, that strikes me as pretty fanservicey. I'll keep watching, though.] [Edit 2: Okay, second episode and they've realized "hey, we need to give the characters (in the show-within-the-show) personalities beyond bust size and blood type! And maybe it's okay if they show actual emotion!" which is pretty loving great. And I know understand why you compared it to the Newsroom.] Gapey Joe Stalin posted:It's really not worth engaging with the cliche goon prejudice against anime, simply because it is the equivalent of trying to converse with people who would write off all scripted American cable TV based on the prevalence of Pawn Stars style 'reality' programming. Hey now, I've never said that I haven't watched anime with those qualities. poo poo, I've watched episodes of Rin: Daughters of Melodyne, Highschool of the Dead, even loving Queens Blade. It's just that I would never, ever try to say that those shows were anything more than just mindless, dumb entertainment (Rin actually did have some interesting things to say, and was very well animated, but so, so, so troublesome in a more than a few ways). And the issues I mentioned are prevalent across all genres of anime, especially the fan service and badly written female characters. Saying that I'm being reductionist about anime is to be in denial about the issues inherent in anime. asecondduck fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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