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DOOP posted:So what makes this case different than McLaren taking Sergio Perez' Carlos Slim money and then telling him to gently caress off a year later. Specific contract details for VdG and not Perez? I don't know the specifics of Perez's case, but the smaller teams tend to agree sponsorship deals annually, so perhaps he'd only paid for 1 year?
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Perez actually got to race. And McLaren would've been in a position to refund his money if it was a multi year contract. I think that's the main difference here.
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Wait, is VdG suing because he paid for a contract for 2015 that wasn't upheld? Or is he suing about being sacked after the end of a previous year?
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DOOP posted:Wait, is VdG suing because he paid for a contract for 2015 that wasn't upheld? Or is he suing about being sacked after the end of a previous year? He's supposed to have a 2015 contract that isn't being upheld. The court has ruled he should be racing at this race.
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DOOP posted:Wait, is VdG suing because he paid for a contract for 2015 that wasn't upheld? Or is he suing about being sacked after the end of a previous year? Given his motivation Sauber almost certainly took a load of money then told him to gently caress off. I think they tried this with Silvestro, but her management were sharper. Edit: Can't see Kaltenborn lasting the month. Her tenure has not been good.
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He paid upfront to race this season, they spent his money then reeled the punter in.
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Sulman posted:Given his motivation Sauber almost certainly took a load of money then told him to gently caress off. I think they tried this with Silvestro, but her management were sharper. no, i think simona didn't have the funding of these other drivers.
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Prince John posted:He's supposed to have a 2015 contract that isn't being upheld. The court has ruled he should be racing at this race. Oh this makes sense Though VdG was suing over some routine end-of-season termination.
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Catch up http://www.f1technical.net/news/19961
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How many driver changes are allowed legally?
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Hello, Carol? It’s Alan. How are you? Me? I’m having a fantastic time, yeah. I’m having the best time since… sliced bread. How’s Mr. Planet of the Apes man? Oh. Is he still driving that Renault Megane? Yeah, can I just read you something from Top Gear magazine? No, it’s alright, I’ve got it here, I’ve got it here. "With a mere ninety brake-horse-power available, progress is too leisurely to be called fast, but on the motorway in fifth gear the Megane’s slow pace really becomes a pain. Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair.” Not my words, Carol. The words of Top Gear magazine. Hello?
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Human Grand Prix posted:How many driver changes are allowed legally? They can have 4 in a season, right? I think. One of the failing teams ran into that problem last year, Marussia maybe.
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be nice wicka posted:no, i think simona didn't have the funding of these other drivers. As I understand it, she pushed Sauber for the test days in exchange for the sponsorship $ from Nuclear Clean Air Energy, which they agreed to. They also (her Sponsors, that is) wanted a race deal, and that was the sticking point. Kaltenborn's words were typical F1: quote:"We had to make a certain call; we did that, and I still would like to support her whatever way I can," Kaltenborn added. I think the last line is the clue. It was money. It may be true to say they didn't have enough for what Sauber wanted, but this all happened in the context of Sauber's driver disputes, and I don't think it's a reach to suggest what Di Silvestro's team wanted were more concrete guarantees of 2015 plans.
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JFairfax posted:
If Partridge was an F1 fan, he'd McLaren through and through.
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McLaren Honda is probably the closest we'll get to seeing a British Leyland F1 team. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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1500quidporsche posted:McLaren Honda is probably the closest we'll get to seeing a British Leyland F1 team. Enjoy it while it lasts. Popular but very badly made, run by idiots and destined to fail?
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1500quidporsche posted:McLaren Honda is probably the closest we'll get to seeing a British Leyland F1 team. Enjoy it while it lasts.  This happened. Sorta. Also ironically enough they were using Cosworths.
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Human Grand Prix posted:
The Cosworth engines were a fountain of power and reliability compared to this engine though.
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Now we know the truth; Samurai Alonso realised in Spain just how bad the new McLaren was and so committed seppuku in turn three.
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1500quidporsche posted:McLaren Honda is probably the closest we'll get to seeing a British Leyland F1 team. Enjoy it while it lasts. As a Midlander, I am now conflicted.
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Sulman posted:As I understand it, she pushed Sauber for the test days in exchange for the sponsorship $ from Nuclear Clean Air Energy, which they agreed to. They also (her Sponsors, that is) wanted a race deal, and that was the sticking point. Kaltenborn's words were typical F1: i just find it really, really hard to believe that simona can match the funding levels of bianchi/ferrari, nasr/banco do brasil, ericsson/shady backers, and van der garde/billionaire family. i love simona but they are all far more proven drivers with, at least in theory, much more money behind them. ALSO, here's some comedy we've all forgotten about : in 2007 van der garde signed a contract to be super aguri's test driver, then reneged on it and signed with spyker. so he's not, in fact, a beautifully innocent angel
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be nice wicka posted:ALSO, here's some comedy we've all forgotten about : in 2007 van der garde signed a contract to be super aguri's test driver, then reneged on it and signed with spyker. so he's not, in fact, a beautifully innocent angel Spyker also screwed him over, and he sued them and won. 
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I'm pretty sure VDG didn't take any money from Super Aguri or else they'd have sued him too.
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Aqualung posted:Spyker also screwed him over, and he sued them and won. how so? El Hefe posted:I'm pretty sure VDG didn't take any money from Super Aguri or else they'd have sued him too. the two teams settled out of court wicka fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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be nice wicka posted:i own a honda
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be nice wicka posted:i own a honda Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:I work on Hondas. Their engineers are arrogant jerkoffs. Apparently so are their owners.
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CratSock posted:Apparently so are their owners. i don't know that anyone has ever called me arrogant. i'm pretty bad.
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DOOP posted:So what makes this case different than McLaren taking Sergio Perez' Carlos Slim money and then telling him to gently caress off a year later. Specific contract details for VdG and not Perez? Could be something specific in the contract allowing for performance-related termination, or they could have just bought him out. Ferrari reportedly paid Raikkonen a shitload of money to gently caress off so they could bring in Alonso. The problem for Sauber is that apparently they can't afford to buy out VDG.
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Apparently Alonso lost his head in the accident and is dead. If true then Ron didn't actually lie when he said that there was no concussion. More info to follow soon.
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be nice wicka posted:i don't know that anyone has ever called me arrogant. i'm pretty bad. There was a lull in posting, so I just grabbed the low hanging fruit that Rev. Dr. MPL left out. It wasn't even worthy of the Worst Thread.
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Maybe Alonso is fine. And it's us that have been thrown 20yrs into the future.
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According to reddit this is Alonso doing a reflex test to prepare for Malaysia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEcPdf298ys Now I'm no robotics / AI expert but to me that looks like leaked footage from the MTC of an android being re-programmed.
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1. I didn't see it posted 2. I don't know if I'm allowed to think sniffpetrol is entertaining But this 2015 writeup is fairly humorous http://sniffpetrol.com/2015-formula-1-guide/#.VQL6ROEsC1V
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1. The new Honda Civic Type R was apparently stupidly quick around the Nurburgring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9G7N0_M9Rc 2. VDG back in court this morning. If there's no deal, Manisha goes to Aussie prison and gets to party with domestic Schapelle Corbys.
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