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22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



The problem description field in our ticketing system is maybe 200 characters long. If you need more room, you can write a note with practically no limit on length (somewhere in the thousands). But instead of taking advantage of that feature, about half of the tickets I get, dispatch tries to write novellas in the problem description field, and they always get cut off before the problem is actually described. They take up all the space with the name of the customer, the hostname, where it is, and how long it's been happening. Half of those have their own fields, and they always take twice as much space as they need to for any of them. So about half the time I have to go to the customer site or call the customer site to get a description of what is happening, so I know what parts even need ordering.

I either hear about the job I interviewed for today or next Friday, I'm really hoping I get it. The recruiter said she'd negotiate for me, but I'll even take the same pay rate just to get out of here. I think she's one of those recruiters that gets paid in proportion to the salary the employee gets, though, so she should have my back on this.

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!



Numbskull ran a huge query and somehow put commas in the thousandsths place of the customer_id. Why the hell would you not use an integer here in the first place?

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?

Bob Morales posted:

Because the $550 Dell Optiplexes we buy are 'too expensive'

Our whole sales team uses AiO's, they look loving awful because there is one model of DELL Vostro, one model of Sony VAIO, and two models of HP Somethings. Early this year I was asked why do I order desktops instead of these; because they don't make these anymore so they will be even more of an eyesore, they're more expensive, and you're boned if one part breaks.

We even have hand-me-downs from the company we used to share office space with complete with asset tags. Standardisation yo, it's pretty rad.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Super Slash posted:

Our whole sales team uses AiO's, they look loving awful because there is one model of DELL Vostro, one model of Sony VAIO, and two models of HP Somethings. Early this year I was asked why do I order desktops instead of these; because they don't make these anymore so they will be even more of an eyesore, they're more expensive, and you're boned if one part breaks.
He's 72 and will forget he even mentioned that to me in a few days.

Otherwise I wold tell him they don't have office which is another $300, they won't have windows 8.1 pro so they can't join our domain, there's no on-site warranty, some people want 2 monitors, AMD chips are slow, blah blah blah

Trastion
Jul 24, 2003
The one and only.

Bob Morales posted:



Numbskull ran a huge query and somehow put commas in the thousandsths place of the customer_id. Why the hell would you not use an integer here in the first place?

In the US it is common to use the comma there?!?!?!?

I don't know about using it in a query though.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Trastion posted:

In the US it is common to use the comma there?!?!?!?

Not if it's an ID number.

Drighton
Nov 30, 2005

We have a CIO and an IT Director who can't agree on anything and are basically having this power struggle and are trying to get the other fired.

Meanwhile we can't get decisions made and are falling behind on our goals. One of the Director's projects I've been working on has been stalled for months by the CIO, one reason after another, and action on anything takes days and constant follow ups.

I'm torn between "sit back, do nothing, get paid" and "actually accomplish something".

Lightning Jim
Nov 18, 2006

Just a mad weather-ologist :science:

Trastion posted:

In the US it is common to use the comma there?!?!?!?

I don't know about using it in a query though.

We still use the Arabic-style of decimal marking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark

Drighton posted:

We have a CIO and an IT Director who can't agree on anything and are basically having this power struggle and are trying to get the other fired.

Meanwhile we can't get decisions made and are falling behind on our goals. One of the Director's projects I've been working on has been stalled for months by the CIO, one reason after another, and action on anything takes days and constant follow ups.

I'm torn between "sit back, do nothing, get paid" and "actually accomplish something".

Or to accomplish the :yotj:
Jesus, that sounds like a shitshow.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
I've been in a similar spot a few times - sometimes it's the best thing in the world and you can take care of all the certifications and training you'd ever want. Sometimes you just sit back and get lazier and lazier. It all depends on where you're at mentally. Everyone knows the opportunity that having no work to do presents, but you have to keep yourself moving. I've succeeded in this sometimes, failed at others.

GOOCHY
Sep 17, 2003

In an interstellar burst I'm back to save the universe!
Anybody have a boss or co-workers who talk *at* you, not to you?

I won the sweepstakes. Two out of three of my co-workers are so incredibly narcissistic that they will come over to my cube to just talk about whatever it is they are doing lately, nonstop. There's very little input from me in these "conversations" because even when I do provide my end both of these guys will just continue to talk as if nothing was said by anyone else. No pause, no flinch, no head nod - just continuing to talk. You know how a normal conversation has a pause for a give and take? That doesn't exist here. What's the point?

I have been walking this Earth for almost 38 years at this point and have never seen anything like it. Not this bad, anyway.

Drighton
Nov 30, 2005

Nah I wouldn't :yotj: unless there wasn't any light at the end of the tunnel. I haven't been in these threads for a long while because there is very little to complain about these days.

Out progress is stop and go, so tough to sell a class or whatever, but I suppose I could grab a book. Would be perfect if there was some VCP6 material available.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

Dudley posted:

The problem is you have outlying cases like the London public transport system being brought down because the unions think people should be able to drive trains drunk and will strike for their right to do so.

Report those well enough and public opinion shifts.

I think the problem is more that any time you hear about a union, it's negative. You don't hear any of the good things they do, only times like when they save someone from getting fired that doesn't deserved to be saved. The only problem is that in America (no idea about anywhere else) it's the law--the union has to defend everyone in the union, it can't pick and choose. I've no doubt that there are unions and union leaders that are corrupt, dishonest, lazy, whatever. I'd still rather have one on my side than be out there alone. The democrats seem to pay lip service to unions, and the republicans are outright hostile to them--so outside of socialists there aren't really too many union supporters in politics. Again, this is an America-centric view, obviously.


And this isn't the thread to discuss it in, would it need its own thread? Is there even any discussion that would happen? I could just drop it, but it does seem to come up fairly frequently

GOOCHY posted:

Anybody have a boss or co-workers who talk *at* you, not to you?

I won the sweepstakes. Two out of three of my co-workers are so incredibly narcissistic that they will come over to my cube to just talk about whatever it is they are doing lately, nonstop. There's very little input from me in these "conversations" because even when I do provide my end both of these guys will just continue to talk as if nothing was said by anyone else. No pause, no flinch, no head nod - just continuing to talk. You know how a normal conversation has a pause for a give and take? That doesn't exist here. What's the point?

I have been walking this Earth for almost 38 years at this point and have never seen anything like it. Not this bad, anyway.

I have a dude I work with that just won't shut up. Does that count? He also will butt in to any conversation, no matter what, if he hears it. He has no social skills whatsoever. He's nice (I guess) but goddamn is he annoying

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



GOOCHY posted:

Anybody have a boss or co-workers who talk *at* you, not to you?

I won the sweepstakes. Two out of three of my co-workers are so incredibly narcissistic that they will come over to my cube to just talk about whatever it is they are doing lately, nonstop. There's very little input from me in these "conversations" because even when I do provide my end both of these guys will just continue to talk as if nothing was said by anyone else. No pause, no flinch, no head nod - just continuing to talk. You know how a normal conversation has a pause for a give and take? That doesn't exist here. What's the point?

I have been walking this Earth for almost 38 years at this point and have never seen anything like it. Not this bad, anyway.

Yep. And as he is discovering he's not the genius he thinks he is. First he got passed over as one of the overall team-lead for what he *thinks* is his speciality (but isn't because he's a dilettante) while the actual lead has years of experience doing it. So he lost out on getting the "office" style cube. And then he lost out on moving his shift, because it is literally more important for another member to move to M-F 1st shift because he's another lead we need there during the week.

And now, he diagnosed a customer issue that spent about week pin-balling around the different Tiers until being escalated to us and he was incorrect. Not just incorrect, but wildly off-base. He was corrected privately and independently by two different people. He then threw a HUGE hissy-fit.

Manager talked him down by basically saying, "you do that, I *will* write you up". A manager who still has not had to issue even an official verbal warning to one person on our team (that I'm aware of).

I think he broke today.

J
Jun 10, 2001

GOOCHY posted:

Anybody have a boss or co-workers who talk *at* you, not to you?

I won the sweepstakes. Two out of three of my co-workers are so incredibly narcissistic that they will come over to my cube to just talk about whatever it is they are doing lately, nonstop. There's very little input from me in these "conversations" because even when I do provide my end both of these guys will just continue to talk as if nothing was said by anyone else. No pause, no flinch, no head nod - just continuing to talk. You know how a normal conversation has a pause for a give and take? That doesn't exist here. What's the point?

I have been walking this Earth for almost 38 years at this point and have never seen anything like it. Not this bad, anyway.

We've got someone who as far as I can tell, seems to plan out like 10+ sentences worth of dialogue if not more in a given conversation that he's going to say before initiating said conversation. Then he goes through and says those things, regardless of what you say in the interim. Sometimes if you respond with something unexpected (read: anything more than a "yeah" or "uh huh") he'll stop for a second and kind of go beep boop malfunction malfunction and then go back to his routine.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Computer nerds lacking social skills? Why I never!

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED
It's a bitching thread, nobody's implying that it's some novel phenomenon.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
I love how we're all members of the same community but a sizable portion of us can't wait to poo poo on other people to win a coolness contest that only they're playing.

GOOCHY posted:

Anybody have a boss or co-workers who talk *at* you, not to you?
This post was a riot but I didn't want to reply immediately since I'd just said something. I love this guy.

I've got a guy in QA who is just the nicest person you're ever going to meet. You want this guy around you. But dude does not get, or care, that I don't play computer games, nor do I keep up with them.

:woop: Hey Stripe did you play the new Dragon Age game?!
:stare: Nah bud.
:woop: Oh man last night I was leveling my wizard in the astral plane
:stare: I don't know what that is.
:woop: And this dragon swoops down and puddlebinds our mage!
:stare: What's a pu---
:woop: I'm thinking of switching my spec to arcane but right now frost seems to
:stare: I'm actually just trying to finishing up this scri
:woop: Be the only spec for raiding but man I was poning noobs with my rogue and I think
:stare: Is there like a server you need rebooted or something?
:woop: I'm going to start using my rogue a lot more

hihifellow
Jun 17, 2005

seriously where the fuck did this genre come from

GOOCHY posted:

Anybody have a boss or co-workers who talk *at* you, not to you?

My old boss, the one who hired me, spent an hour telling me I've "pretty much got the job based on your references" then talking about the job, the person who I'd be replacing (who lasted all of a week), and what other interviewees did that failed them for an interview. I think I said maybe 5 words the entire time.

He's a nice guy but you don't so much have a conversation with him as he has a conversation at you. Just one of those guys who will talk about anything for hours.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

I have a guy giving me random NCAA basketball updates. Never talks about basketball before at work, I don't even watch it.

Piggers just lost by three points. They were winning at halftime but....

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Bob Morales posted:

Piggers just lost by three points. They were winning at halftime but....

:lol:

I get weird reactions when I tell people I don't watch football, baseball or any sport.

I have one co-worker who has zero social compass. When I'm staring and leaning into my monitor an obvious indication I'm working. He will stand in my office door and begin a one-way conversation without any warning and acknowledgement from myself.

I do my best not to pay attention but the last conversation I remember was about how kids these days don't have any discipline because we're not allowed to physically smack'em when things get out of hand. :barf:

beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014

GOOCHY posted:

Anybody have a boss or co-workers who talk *at* you, not to you?
My boss constantly tells me about his exploits in World of Warcraft and Hearthstone. I've never played nor shown interest in either of these games. He goes into detail naming specific cards, classes, and game mechanics. Sometimes I just stop responding to him completely during the pauses in his stories, but he trudges on with or without me.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
I talk about baseball all the time at work and won't apologize for it.

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

Inspector_666 posted:

I talk about baseball all the time at work and won't apologize for it.

I hope you know that people are literally falling asleep listening to you talk about baseball. At least follow hockey

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

evol262 posted:

I hope you know that people are literally falling asleep listening to you talk about baseball. At least follow hockey

Generally I talk football when there's no baseball, and baseball when there's no football. My account manager talks about basketball, and nobody really talks hockey.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
My shop is actually very hockey friendly and it's on the west coast. Football is of course king when it's on, but I don't give a poo poo about it and refuse to do so. Basketball and baseball have their fans. Soccer is also popular on my team.

I'm the only one who follows Formula 1 though :(

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
When it comes to socializing, hockey is terrible, and Formula 1 is worse. If you want to have a conversation with a human being and not just the internet, follow American football, baseball or basketball.

A more important consideration is your TV and movie habits. Did you think Boyhood was the best film you saw last year, followed closely by the Grand Budapest Hotel? Do you prefer the original French version of Les Revenants over the American reboot of The Returned? Do you even know what that question means? If you answered yes to any of these, please immediately change all of your opinions. Instead, watch every superhero movie that comes out, and pick up box sets of Firefly and Stargate SG:1.

Incidentally, if you have an opinion on which Death Grips album is their best, don't bother talking about music at work.

MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Mar 15, 2015

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


I love cheesy power metal, but I am deathly afraid to reveal this at work. If I do, all of the filthy sweaty neckbeards will come crawling out of the woodwork and force me to listen to them go on for hours about how awesome Dragonforce are. gently caress Dragonforce.

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

skooma512 posted:

I'm the only one who follows Formula 1 though :(

Don't listen to Stripe, he's a big meanie and F1 is awesome. I'm in the UK though, a land where we like cars which can turn both left and right corners.

Saying one sport is stupid is equally as ridiculous as talking about a sport to someone who clearly isn't interested. I mostly follow F1 and international rugby (particularly as it's Six Nations right now) but I'm not going to sit there go on about it to someone who doesn't care. However, out of 15 people in my immediate vicinity in the office, 5 follow F1 so that's cool.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
So apparently the reason my supervisor hasn't had this week's time sheets in yet is because she isn't even in the loving state. You'd think we'd get told when our boss at a security company up and leaves for a three day trip to Memphis.

While we're already down two people and struggling to cover every shift.

You'd think.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


Inspector_666 posted:

Generally I talk football when there's no baseball, and baseball when there's no football. My account manager talks about basketball, and nobody really talks hockey.

A bunch of the engineers I work with are NFL fans, and the finance guys are all into fantasy baseball. I get plenty of sports talk at work, and it's awesome.

(There's always IRC for sports chat too)

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

When it comes to socializing, hockey is terrible, and Formula 1 is worse. If you want to have a conversation with a human being and not just the internet, follow American football, baseball or basketball.

I'd rather have a best friend from Minnesota than acquaintances everywhere :colbert:

I'm giving my tech a break from A/V support this weekend and this poo poo totally sucks. The person who rented out our facility forgot to tell me about the hundreds of people and multiple TV crews, otherwise I might have done a dry run or set some of this poo poo up before I got in at 6. I was sweaty by 7AM and I've had to go up on stage twice already thanks to Powerpoint 13. Can't wait to start the week tomorrow.

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

KozmoNaut posted:

gently caress Dragonforce metal fans.

I like metal, but the real metalheads seem to be totally aware of the existence of any other genres of music and incapable of believing someone may not like metal; the offending person just hasn't heard the right band yet.

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

KozmoNaut posted:

I love cheesy power metal, but I am deathly afraid to reveal this at work. If I do, all of the filthy sweaty neckbeards will come crawling out of the woodwork and force me to listen to them go on for hours about how awesome Dragonforce are. gently caress Dragonforce.

I'm kinda curious what bands you listen to. I'm a fan of Kamelot and I think Blind Guardian's later / more recent albums fit being cheesy power metal (lyric wise, at least.) I'm always looking for more bands to add to my playlist. And I agree with you about Dragonforce.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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evol262 posted:

I like metal, but the real metalheads seem to be totally aware of the existence of any other genres of music and incapable of believing someone may not like metal; the offending person just hasn't heard the right band yet.

You should tell them you only like indie-approved metal, like mastodon and any any band that doesn't fit those parameters you're not interested in. Because I told a metalhead that once, and he stuttered a bit and went on about a band that wasn't like it at all. Then I asked him if he liked earth and sort of walked away.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



incoherent posted:

You should tell them you only like indie-approved metal, like mastodon and any any band that doesn't fit those parameters you're not interested in. Because I told a metalhead that once, and he stuttered a bit and went on about a band that wasn't like it at all. Then I asked him if he liked earth and sort of walked away.

I like Earth's stuff, as long as Dio or Ozzie were singing :smug:

I used to listen to so much loving metal. Not so much anymore. I have made it to all of Agalloch's Colorado shows, and I plan on going to this next one even though it's probably going to be a rehash of the last one, since they haven't put out any new material.

gently caress Mastodon. Baroness was better anyway.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Garrand posted:

I'm kinda curious what bands you listen to. I'm a fan of Kamelot and I think Blind Guardian's later / more recent albums fit being cheesy power metal (lyric wise, at least.) I'm always looking for more bands to add to my playlist. And I agree with you about Dragonforce.

Right now it's generally Powerwolf, Hammerfall and The Sword (though that's more into doom/stoner, really), with a bit of Stratovarius and Sabaton thrown in. Trying to get into Helloween, too.

Powerwolf is what I listen to the most right now. Pipe organs, over-the-top evil inquisitor act, Romanian opera singer frontman and tons of vampire/werewolf mythology. Cheese factor is off the scale, but it's sooo good.

A bit of Blind Guardian as well, but only really up to A Night At The Opera. I'll have a listen to some Kamelot :)

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Mar 16, 2015

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

rolleyes posted:

Don't listen to Stripe, he's a big meanie and F1 is awesome. I'm in the UK though, a land where we like cars which can turn both left and right corners.

Saying one sport is stupid is equally as ridiculous as talking about a sport to someone who clearly isn't interested. I mostly follow F1 and international rugby (particularly as it's Six Nations right now) but I'm not going to sit there go on about it to someone who doesn't care. However, out of 15 people in my immediate vicinity in the office, 5 follow F1 so that's cool.

Yeah this is a culture thing, UK socially it's football then F1 then Rugby you'll get a conversation about.

The only people I talk American Football to are the Americans (and we have a few here, mostly Denver fans because that's where our US office is)

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009

KozmoNaut posted:

Right now it's generally Powerwolf, Hammerfall and The Sword (though that's more into doom/stoner, really), with a bit of Stratovarius and Sabaton thrown in. Trying to get into Helloween, too.

Powerwolf is what I listen to the most right now. Pipe organs, over-the-top evil inquisitor act, Romanian opera singer frontman and tons of vampire/werewolf mythology. Cheese factor is off the scale, but it's sooo good.

A bit of Blind Guardian as well, but only really up to A Night At The Opera. I'll have a listen to some Kamelot :)

I need to do a pandora station for some of this. I like new music recommendations so I'll be listening to some of this. I've already got some Kamelot and Sabaton. Should we start/join a thread in NMD?

Lightning Jim
Nov 18, 2006

Just a mad weather-ologist :science:
Sometimes when I get overly tried and/or stressed my ability to read social cues goes down to the point I interrupt conversations without realizing it.

So yes, I can be that guy. So essentially: poo poo that pisses you off about yourself

Lightning Jim fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Mar 16, 2015

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Jul 27, 2009
My manager resigned, and instead of thanking him for his years of service etc, they just put out an email after he was gone that as of this date, x is no longer with the company. It sucks that he chose to leave and they make it sound like he was fired without warning.

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