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Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Holy poo poo

These Walls and Hood Politics.

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t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

who cares if an album leaks a week early idgi

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
I think they're more upset that an edited version of the album was posted onto iTunes because the label hosed up. If it leaks, at least people have to put some effort into finding it and they're hearing the album in its proper form

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
it's up on iTunes and Spotify in both clean and explicit versions, sort of hard to imagine it was a completely accidental release unless they just decided to flip the switch on the rest of it after accidentally putting the clean version up

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

abraham linksys posted:

it's up on iTunes and Spotify in both clean and explicit versions, sort of hard to imagine it was a completely accidental release unless they just decided to flip the switch on the rest of it after accidentally putting the clean version up

Clean version was out like an hour or two earlier

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
oh poo poo, took a while for the news articles to appear, I guess. in that case, :shrug:

e: "u" :stare:

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Huh, he actually managed to have I work thematically with this album

InnercityGriot
Dec 31, 2008
Kendrick's album is pretty bad, I really liked GKMC too, but this is just... not good.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
My first impression is that it's very good, but it feels way less focused and more overindulgent than GKMC and I think the album really suffers for it.

The obnoxiously long 80 minute runtime is really killing me because a lot of the tracks are individually great, but in the context of the album everything dissolves into a mid-tempo jazzy slush. The shitload of skits, beat switches, and spoken word sections really don't help things either. It's a shame too, because I feel like there's an amazing 50 minute album hiding in here somewhere.

Also I can't wait for the reviews to roll in and people say it's better than Illmatic and MBDTF combined

HorseRenoir fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Mar 16, 2015

spoils
Nov 2, 2012
It's great. Only one track prod. by Flying Lotus, but it seems like Thundercat greatly influenced this album for the better. Album should be at least 10 minutes shorter in my O. I like that it doesn't have Dr. Dre rapping, there isn't a seven minute track with Anna Wise, and he doesn't take on the personage of a hooker sucking dick.
i is also 100x better in the album, but unfortunately no Dominoes endorsements...

bef
Mar 2, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
We gon be alright

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
tpab is good poo poo. i'm getting a d'angelo vibe but i can actually understand what this guy's saying. king kunta has been upgraded from a track i'm feeling to one of the best tracks i've heard in a while.

on the negative. i am hating the sketches / interludes / centreludes / interruptions. i was hoping that poo poo had started to die out. as soon as i finished listening to this on the first run through i just pumped beast mode to hear 27 minutes of relentlessly good poo poo

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I really like it but it's definitely pretty self-indulgent, especially the end where he uses old radio interviews with Tupac to construct a fictional conversation with him. The reasons for the indulgence are expressed pretty clearly throughout, though; he's clearly struggled with how to direct his fame in a positive way and he wants to send a message to black kids and end the cycle of violence etc. Plus there's a ton of great verses, the new 'i' is a thousand times better and contrasts nicely with 'u' ('The Blacker the Berry' also works better in context), 'King Kunta' is fun as hell, and 'How Much a Dollar Cost' is a masterpiece. Might be a GKMC killer for me.

pliable
Sep 26, 2003

this is what u get for "180 x 180 avatars"

this is what u fucking get u bithc
Fun Shoe
For some reason, I was really hoping for a Clams Casino produced track, but I'll definitely settle for FlyLo. I'm only on How Much A Dollar Cost so far, but I'm kinda blown away. GKMC took a few listens for some reason for me to warm up to it, but then it became one of my favorite hip-hop albums of all time. TPAB already has me hooked, though. Then again, I am stupidly gay for K-Dot, so...

I'm loving the jazzy feeling of the album though. It blows me away how different each of his studio albums sounds (starting from Section.80, not including Overly Dedicated), but the fucker makes it work, and work well.

EDIT: Huh, that's a new touch for The Blacker the Berry

baram.
Oct 23, 2007

smooth.


just preordered the album this morning before reading they dropped it early, I guess they fixed it though because it says expected release is still the 23rd :negative:

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Nvm

Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Mar 16, 2015

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
so wait is it gone now? can't find on spotify and itunes is back to "pre-order" option. so all i have to go off is all these mixed bag reviews from this thread. ugh it sounds like kendrick just couldnt keep himself from recording a bunch of weak rear end skits and whatnot

edit: nevermind looks like it is still on spotify you just not on his artist page - https://open.spotify.com/album/7ycBtnsMtyVbbwTfJwRjSP

thathonkey fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Mar 16, 2015

SOME PIG
Aug 12, 2004

Hittin' Switches,
Twistin' wigs with
Phat Radical Mathematical type Scriptures
Haven't heard the album yet, but I finally figured out why I don't like "I" or "King Kunta." The funk is too clean and sanitized, it's got no rear end to it. Funk music supposed to be dirty. He should've just had D'Angelo's band produce those two songs. Going on Spotify to try to find it now...

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch
The more kendrick tries to get experimental the more restrained and corny he sounds. I don't think he quite realizes that people like to hear him rap

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Listening now but lmao if the tupac conversation thing is true. Lmao.

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
This dick ain't freeeee

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


I still want Kendrick rapping on some Dre beats. It would require the stars to align and stopping Dre from yachting for months on end, but still.

And I could really live without the Def Jam Poetry ending on "i".

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Album is ok i guess. There are some good parts and a lot of bad parts.


Edit: ps ive never liked any song involving thundercat

thathonkey fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Mar 16, 2015

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

emptyquote my posts or die
i was a big "i" hater but the album version sounds pretty good... is it common for a single to sound this different from the album version?? it's like a totally different track now.

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence
add kendrick to the list of people i will never listen to again

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007

loving lol at the Tupac conversation.

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011

pac....PAC......PAC!?!?! :byodood:

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe

TenaciousTomato posted:

add kendrick to the list of people i will never listen to again
for real? why?

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


Polo-Rican posted:

i was a big "i" hater but the album version sounds pretty good... is it common for a single to sound this different from the album version?? it's like a totally different track now.

Seems to happen every now and then. Kanye does it a lot though, like with the single version of Paranoid and a new mix that came later which had more strings and synths.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Hood politics could have been a good song if he hadnt put that really bad spoken word part at the end for gently caress sake kdot reel it in

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Cool Buff Man posted:

The more kendrick tries to get experimental the more restrained and corny he sounds. I don't think he quite realizes that people like to hear him rap
Rap is corny. All rappers are corny and will only get more corny.

SOME PIG
Aug 12, 2004

Hittin' Switches,
Twistin' wigs with
Phat Radical Mathematical type Scriptures

Polo-Rican posted:

i was a big "i" hater but the album version sounds pretty good... is it common for a single to sound this different from the album version?? it's like a totally different track now.

Wow, you're right. I love this version of "I." To double down on the stupid thing I said earlier, they put some rear end in it. Plus they scraped all that bubble-gum polished poo poo off.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

temple posted:

Rap is corny. All rappers are corny and will only get more corny.

Nothing's cornier than rappers trying to do other styles of music, please rap

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Pretty much everything on the album that's Kendrick rapping is amazing so I don't really mind some excessive skits/spoken word/whatever else. Someone said it's self-indulgent which I think is almost right, but also kinda misses the mark. Dude's talked a lot about saving people and uplifting people and stuff, and you can definitely hear that in this album, which I can't really poo poo on him for. Also I largely dig the more jazzy/funk production-works on a ton of songs imo. Lot of it sounds like stuff the Roots should've been doing after "things fall apart" rather than what they ended up doing. It really sounds much more a followup to O.D./Section 80 than GKMC.

Dudes need to give this album some time, it has less easily-listenable stuff than GKMC but dude's still rapping his rear end off so w/e. Also I'd be surprised if this doesn't get Kanye-levels of praise.

Wezlar
May 13, 2005



I'm liking it a lot after one listen. That skit at the end is really corny though holy poo poo.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Wezlar posted:

I'm liking it a lot after one listen. That skit at the end is really corny though holy poo poo.

Yeah that's something that someone needed to be like "yo kendrick, you may wanna pull back a bit there"

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence
i'd rather listen to Durag Dynasty :laugh:

call me a rap fan

Yuzenn
Mar 31, 2011

Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

The Spirit told me to use discernment and a Smith n Wesson at my discretion

Practice heavy self reflection, avoid self deception
If you lost, get re-direction

alansmithee posted:

Pretty much everything on the album that's Kendrick rapping is amazing so I don't really mind some excessive skits/spoken word/whatever else. Someone said it's self-indulgent which I think is almost right, but also kinda misses the mark. Dude's talked a lot about saving people and uplifting people and stuff, and you can definitely hear that in this album, which I can't really poo poo on him for. Also I largely dig the more jazzy/funk production-works on a ton of songs imo. Lot of it sounds like stuff the Roots should've been doing after "things fall apart" rather than what they ended up doing. It really sounds much more a followup to O.D./Section 80 than GKMC.

Dudes need to give this album some time, it has less easily-listenable stuff than GKMC but dude's still rapping his rear end off so w/e. Also I'd be surprised if this doesn't get Kanye-levels of praise.

Kendrick bought into his own hype about being rap's savior and it shows bigtime on this album. The whole album just feels like a proselytizing sermon about how dope Kendrick is (THIS DICK AINT FREEEEEE) is and it's off putting; add in the totally unnecessary and poorly timed skits and spoke word sessions and this album is a huge let down. The D'Angelo comparison is spot on, since this is barely a rap album, and mixes funk and jazz in a very strange way kind of messily and often times misses the strong suits of each genre in an effort to mash it together. When Kendrick actually spits he really goes in, but that might be 10....maybe 15 minutes of this album at most and it takes away from it dearly. The hype on the album is big but I'm not sure how its going to be received and I don't think it will be anywhere near as successful as GKMC. Could you imagine going to a concert of this album only...you'd have to be baked out of your loving mind to get through the entire thing.


I guess my problem is that I saw Kendrick having a path somewhat of what I thought Andre 3k's solo career could have been, and yet I still can't buy the hype that this is some ground breaking album! You could literally just listen to Aquemini and get a much better and more polished product. And that album was made 16 years ago. I guess it's all in the timing, if this was his first album and then he came out with GKMC i'd probably be talking much more poo poo about how awesome he is, but this feels so out of order and out of pocket for Kendrick. People want to hear you spit, so you give them a product where you do a tremendously limited amount of spitting?

There were some good tracks but it takes a while to dig through all of the other mess to get to it; the new version of I is much improved but still feels like an awkward track for him, Hood Politics has some really great moments but my favorite track is The Blacker the Berry and I wish the rest of the album had much more of that energy.

That 2pac snippet was so corny and forced- my eyeballs rolled out of my head at a speed so loving fast that it sent them back in time to an ice planet where I met a different alternate version of myself and retconned my entire continuum.

TL;DR, King Kendrick has to take the King part from in front of his name, not a good product.

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A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


lmao I skipped the 12 minute track and I don't regret it after reading all this



gently caress yes, they better drop a follow up to 360 Waves this year. That album is so good.

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