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Mange Mite posted:i dont think thats how it works Starfleet says let them suffocate. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Homeward_%28episode%29
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Voyager was the death knell for episodic sci-fi.
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Mar 18, 2015 15:33
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Shadow posted:Voyager is worth it only because of the doctor and 7 of 9. actually its because the show producers had a standing ban on character conflict or drama for all the main cast. those two were exempted because they werent human or something idk
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Mar 18, 2015 15:34
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star trek tng is on tv I'm watching it right now
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Mange Mite posted:actually its because the show producers had a standing ban on character conflict or drama for all the main cast. those two were exempted because they werent human or something idk They ain't joking. Voyager was what happens when you get way too stuck in your ways in spite of literally every common sense instinct.
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Mange Mite posted:actually its because the show producers had a standing ban on character conflict or drama for all the main cast. those two were exempted because they werent human or something idk Interesting storylines for destitute crew members on a ship lost "at space"? gently caress. That. Janeway: "Like a toaster in a bathtub." Any Character: "Captain?" God. loving. Damnit. They used that writing "technique" like every 30 seconds. I hope the writers of Voyager are unemployed and living in a gutter. Except those who wrote for the Doctor. His lines were art.
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Volcott posted:Year of Hell being a season long and not getting reset at the end would have made Voyager better. They did this, it's called Battlestar Galactica.
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Entropic posted:They did this, it's called Battlestar Galactica. We've discussed this, the entire series is ruined forever because of the finale.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXZZeHkL29c If TNG were on today, those chicks would have more booty.
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Mar 18, 2015 17:22
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in another 10 years goons will like BSG.
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I loved BSG. But yeah, that finale was a huge let down. Someone said it but it's the Lost effect. Packing on the mysteries is cute and all but you need to have a direction for their resolution. If you just hand wave "we'll figure it out later" you're a piece of poo poo. A piece of poo poo, I say.
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the last episode was crap but it was fantastic up until then so i can deal with it.
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Mar 18, 2015 17:38
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I think that drat finale colored a lot of people's opinions of the show more negatively than is fair; it's a pretty good show but to be fair, it was a really lovely finale
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Mar 18, 2015 17:46
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I pretend most of the finale didn't exist. Cognitive dissonance can do wonders for people's opinions on stuff.
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Mar 18, 2015 17:49
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voyager started out looking like it had potential cause they would have to do things like ration their torpedoes cause there's no way to get more. but then they were like gently caress that and just had more anyway
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Mar 18, 2015 17:52
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Voyager would make a good roguelike game in the vein of FTL BSG on the other hand is good for nothing and should be forgotten immediately
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Mar 18, 2015 17:59
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Bring back space: above & beyond
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dMastri posted:
the board game is actually dope as hell
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I really dug the poo poo out of BSG until about the beginning of Season Three when I realized the writers had absolutely no plan and were just doing whatever was most likely to shock viewers from episode to episode. I dropped it then never looked back, which is a pity as the miniseries and 33 are loving AAA pieces of television.
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Nefarious posted:the board game is actually dope as hell this is true AIRLOCK!
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Parallax Scroll posted:voyager started out looking like it had potential cause they would have to do things like ration their torpedoes cause there's no way to get more. but then they were like gently caress that and just had more anyway The show has what I call my "Gilligan's Island Issue". The main plot is that they can't get home for 70 years. So any episode that deals with them having the chance to warp home, you know it won't happen because you are 12 episodes in to a 22 episode season. Gilligan can't leave the island of the series is over
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mind the walrus posted:I really dug the poo poo out of BSG until about the beginning of Season Three when I realized the writers had absolutely no plan and were just doing whatever was most likely to shock viewers from episode to episode. I dropped it then never looked back, which is a pity as the miniseries and 33 are loving AAA pieces of television. I saw the miniseries and thought, "wow, pretty cool concept." Then I saw 33 and I was blown away. loving brilliant show. Bonzo posted:The show has what I call my "Gilligan's Island Issue". The main plot is that they can't get home for 70 years. So any episode that deals with them having the chance to warp home, you know it won't happen because you are 12 episodes in to a 22 episode season. Gilligan's an rear end in a top hat.
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Bonzo posted:Hello Captain Janeway. We know you lost an expensive, experimental ship. We know you enlisted terrorists and criminals as your crew. You violated more Starfleet regulations than we care to mention but congratulations, you're an Admiral now. They had to give everyone big promotions, sometimes two steps, because they were gone for 7 years. Just ignore the fact that people like Riker have been at their original rank for 15.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:18
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They would've been home in half a season if they put Gilligan in a cage.
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Kuato posted:I pretend most of the finale didn't exist. Cognitive dissonance can do wonders for people's opinions on stuff. Funny enough, this is how I handle the last Star Trek TNG movie. Nemesis was the worst Star Trek movie by a long shot.
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Wait, are any of the TNG movies all that great?
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It was literally a fanfic. That's a pretty good reason to ignore it. E: First Contact was legit.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:23
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First Contact was good and fun, even if the story itself was pretty braindead and Picard isnt acting in character.
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ChickenRiceNPeas posted:Funny enough, this is how I handle the last Star Trek TNG movie. Nemesis was the worst Star Trek movie by a long shot. i guess first contact least of all but that's not saying much really just the dying gasps of some really terrible producers but if you ask berman & co they will tell you their tenure at the helm of trek was an amazing journey where they made no mistakes. gently caress you rick.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Wait, are any of the TNG movies all that great? Most of them rate below average, I liked "Generations" the most, thought it was a cut above the others.
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Kirk said he would die alone and he didn't and also a bridge killed him so what part of that was good or true to lore
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so how come people say the first 2 or 3 seasons of this show are trash i watched like an ep or two of season 1 and it was so bad i have a hard time the show ever gets good
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Vorik posted:so how come people say the first 2 or 3 seasons of this show are trash It gets good. Start at S3 and don't look back. The last few episodes as each character's "arc" is wrapping up are kind of dumb though.
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1 and 2 are v questionable unless you enjoy watching bad and awkward scifi there are sprinklings of it further on but the overall quality really does noticeably improve after S2 What did they do different after S2 in terms of writing/production, anything?
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Is there a list of important TNG season 1 and 2 episodes? All I can think of is the Q parts of Encounter at Farpoint, Q Who, and Measure of a Man.Monkey Fracas posted:1 and 2 are v questionable unless you enjoy watching bad and awkward scifi I think a new producer arrived and said "this show is now more about the characters and less about space adventures. Go!" Edit: While Seasons 1 and 2 generally sucked, they really seemed to be much better than the good seasons in terms of cinematography and music. Gutcruncher fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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Mar 18, 2015 20:21
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don't remember specific episodes but any where pulaski got a scene with data were aight
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Parallax Scroll posted:don't remember specific episodes but any where pulaski got a scene with data were aight Pulaski: "Hey everyone look at the albino retard sitting at ops!" Picard: "Doctor, Mr Data is an important member of my crew! Please do not try to hurt his feelings!" Data: "I like trains!"
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whole bunch of nerdcare itt
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^^ how about you go gently caress off some place and die human being Oh, right. I guess watch any episode with Q or the Traveler from the first 2 seasons. You can skip the rest. Hell you can skip the Traveler.
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Parallax Scroll posted:don't remember specific episodes but any where pulaski got a scene with data were aight I don't honestly know why everyone seems to hate pulaski better than fuckin Troi, christ
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