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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it was really easy to make a secondary output work. it was impossible to make it work dynamically if your secondary output worked with the driver to begin with and even then I remember having to do dumb poo poo like googling my monitor model number to find the specs and therefore the right modeline settings 2004 sucked
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gently caress and whatever dri bullshit you had to deal with for ati cards patches on patches
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pseudorandom name posted:anything that pulls in mysql on a desktop is poo poo for idiots doubly so on a server
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admit it, which one of you is this
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im the guy asking to gain 10 lbs
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that isn't how you spell gray.
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some great cultural awareness on display from the Linux crew itt
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pointsofdata posted:some great cultural awareness on display from the Linux crew itt White people don;t have a culture. I read about it on tumblr.com.
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pointsofdata posted:admit it, which one of you is this hey how did they get my bank account number
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I am making a VM I am going to keep on a few computers. Basically I am tired of network latency accessing my home machine, and a VPS isn't well suited to what I would use it for. My first idea was to keep my home directory synchronized using insync and my limitless google drive space. Any drawbacks to this super cunning plan? Edit: My desktop, my laptop, and a third remote computer.
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use btsync it owns
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it is closed source though 
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Yeah, also the pricing is in euros.
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i mean this https://www.getsync.com/
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Going with no on the btsync pram. It looks like a killer service 4 sure, but I'm not sure what it can get me that using the gcloud doesn't do a lot cheaper.
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pram posted:i mean this much better 
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it owns, and is magical. i use it to handle backups on all my digitalocean vms
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Subjunctive posted:do you have puppet scripts for getting MSVC and such installed? those would be interesting to me. * download windows sdk * done
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just a friendly reminder that gnome 3 point sixteen is coming out this week and the most ownage desktop environment is about to own even harder gently caress yeah 
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Mr Dog posted:just a friendly reminder that gnome 3 point sixteen is coming out this week and the most ownage desktop environment is about to own even harder gently caress yeah they did something weird to the window decorations. firefox and terminal look different from epiphany and nautilis and most things for some reason. see attachment.
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the future is apps drawing their own window borders like it's Windows 3.1
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pseudorandom name posted:the future is apps drawing their own window borders like it's Windows 7 or Windows 10 or OSX or Android or iOS Yeah, basically
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we used to think that visual consistency between programs was something important to strive for. then microsoft and apple both proved that nobody else cares about it, so why should linux
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kde4's tasks/notifications thing is some weird poo poo
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Soricidus posted:we used to think that visual consistency between programs was something important to strive for. then microsoft and apple both proved that nobody else cares about it, so why should linux the market leaders hosed up, so let's uncritically follow their example
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Suspicious Dish posted:Yeah, basically Windows has the decency to pop up an "Application has stopped responding" dialog box when the window controls stop working. I can't wait for you chucklefucks to reinvent the thing where a modal dialog box stops the parent window from being movable or resizable.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the market leaders hosed up, so let's uncritically follow their example OS X has had custom decoration controls since day 1. Starting with Snow Leopard, they allowed you to edit the titlebar to rename documents. Windows did it with Windows Media Player some XP, then Office, and they put back/forward buttons in the bar in explorer in Vista and Windows 7, and then there's also the ribbon UI. Most applications on those platforms implement their own decorations (Firefox, Chrome, IE, Visual Studio, GitHub, Steam). So, if by "the market leaders hosed up" you mean "a steady and consistent period of experimentation and research for well over a decade, with the vendors leading the pack with their own research and including this in their HIG" , then yes.
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pseudorandom name posted:Windows has the decency to pop up an "Application has stopped responding" dialog box when the window controls stop working. A feature we have had, and have never removed, since GNOME 2.16. We send a ping to the window upon activation, and if if doesn't respond, we display a dialog about force closing it. pseudorandom name posted:I can't wait for you chucklefucks to reinvent the thing where a modal dialog box stops the parent window from being movable or resizable. If you use the nested form of gtk_dialog_run, which runs a needed event loop only for that window, then yes, that will happen. If you use the non-nested version where events from the other windows are processed, then resize handles, even client decorated ones, will continue to work.
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Suspicious Dish posted:A feature we have had, and have never removed, since GNOME 2.16. We send a ping to the window upon activation, and if if doesn't respond, we display a dialog about force closing it. Suspicious Dish posted:If you use the nested form of gtk_dialog_run, which runs a needed event loop only for that window, then yes, that will happen. If you use the non-nested version where events from the other windows are processed, then resize handles, even client decorated ones, will continue to work.
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the application not responding dialog still works fine ( on my fedora 21 )
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gnome 3 is visually consistent with itself unlike OSX which had three different widget styles for a while because reasons there is the light adwaita vs dark adwaita thing i guess but i think it sort of makes sense: light adwaita is nicer for looking at text (yospos gives me hella eyestrain) and dark adwaita is good for looking at pictures (which is why it's used in the movie player and uuuuh i guess the vm app. idk) if you use another DE's apps and that DE has its own ui style (oh sorry we're being pretentious and calling it ~~***~~~ DESIGN LANGUAGE ~~~***~~~ these days) then yeah it's gonna clash. this will be the case whether GNOME overrides that DE's window decoration style or not. yet another one of those things that greybeards get super mad about but normal people don't really give a poo poo about
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pseudorandom name posted:Somewhere along the line you broke it without noticing, so good job all around. It's never broken for me. In fact, we regularly get complaints from end users about games popping up the dialog to often (uploading textures to the GPU is synchronous in OpenGL and that's why TF2 freezes for a minute when loading a new level). If there was ever a release where it was broken, I'm not aware of it. Would be super happy to investigate if you can give me repro instructions. pseudorandom name posted:Well, there's a bug that needs fixing. The API is documented as blocking events from other windows and is deprecated. We're not going to change behavior that has existed for well over 10 years in a deprecated function. And if you did, you'd be complaining about GTK+ breaking compatibility instead.
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Anyway, there's plenty of inconsistency between applications. Both visual, like icon theme, and UI, like where to put the Preferences window in the menus and button order in dialogs (OK, Cancel vs. Cancel, OK) I don't understand why everybody gets upset at the frames when the other two are much more jarring to me.
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Suspicious Dish posted:It's never broken for me. In fact, we regularly get complaints from end users about games popping up the dialog to often (uploading textures to the GPU is synchronous in OpenGL and that's why TF2 freezes for a minute when loading a new level). If there was ever a release where it was broken, I'm not aware of it. Would be super happy to investigate if you can give me repro instructions. start a Glorious App of the Future (e.g. Evince) from a terminal. press Ctrl-Z. click in the window, especially the X button. compare with a Horrible App of the Past (e.g. Sound Juicer), where clicking the X button gives you a Not Responding dialog a few seconds later.
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pseudorandom name posted:start a Glorious App of the Future (e.g. Evince) from a terminal. Followed your instructions, got 
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custom titlebars are good, just look at chrome on linux VS knockoff chrome (firefox)
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whats the best desktop linux???
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