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white mans burping posted:sounds like a pretty scummy thing to say kenny No I am not.
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thatbastardken posted:if town want any kind of victory in this game we have to look past old grudges and petty vendettas. Play the game, not the player. Vector Sigma, he's right! *votes anidav*
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Kat Delacour posted:So, the most-votes lynch rules means that scum basically get a free pass because they can +1 votes as required, but obviously would want to avoid dog piling a single candidate because it makes them easy pickings end game. Interesting. And to clarify that's really random not selectively random, you'd have to stick with what you get to avoid creeping bias. If we're going to bias the roll we may as well turbo Anidav now. Or kill nobody
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Kat Delacour posted:So, the most-votes lynch rules means that scum basically get a free pass because they can +1 votes as required, but obviously would want to avoid dog piling a single candidate because it makes them easy pickings end game. Interesting. Treat the game like any other game of mafia. Plurality does away with the deadline scramble but is generally in favour of scum. We should be holding lurkers and bad deadline voters and abstainees accountable this game. Not sure if there will be any whacky voting mechanics because you guys are mental, but i'm going to be treating this game just like a normal mafia game and hanging scums!
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Mar 24, 2015 05:38
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Kat Delacour posted:we may as well turbo Anidav now.
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busb posted:Treat the game like any other game of mafia. Plurality does away with the deadline scramble but is generally in favour of scum. We should be holding lurkers and bad deadline voters and abstainees accountable this game. I'm going to be hardline on this after the Mario game.
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Based on my novice analysis of the last Auspolformers, I would generally be happy not to D1 lynch because we're more likely to hit a townie, and they're likely to have a useful role because this is Cybertron and we're transformers. BUT There's no guarantee that Bruticus (or worse) isn't still out there with the ability to double-kill townies as long as the component scum parts are alive. In that case the smaller odds of randomly hitting a scum are justified by the upside of stopping that double kill.
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Yeah, although I was only half-joking about voting randomly and kind of like that idea for D1, the activity should be more important. Nobody might have any loving clue who to lynch today, and people have RL stuff that might keep them from posting like a madman, but you can at least check in to show you're paying attention and ready to roll out.
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Kat Delacour posted:So, the most-votes lynch rules means that scum basically get a free pass because they can +1 votes as required, but obviously would want to avoid dog piling a single candidate because it makes them easy pickings end game. Interesting. I'm on board with auspol's "always d1 lynch" mantra, I don't think we should abandon it. But I'm not much of a fan of the random roll to pick someone for today either - it's too open to abuse by scum. The majority voting system has me a bit spooked, I don't know whether it's a help or hindrance to town compared to the hammer.
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Mar 24, 2015 05:48
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Tirade posted:I'm on board with auspol's "always d1 lynch" mantra, I don't think we should abandon it. But I'm not much of a fan of the random roll to pick someone for today either - it's too open to abuse by scum. Me too, but only one way to find out.
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I believe you always lynch Day1. Relying on night actions is always a bad idea because town are uninformed in general about what can transpire at night. Voting patterns and casing are the best ways to find scum and if you nolynch day1 then day2 just turns into another day1. Also i have no idea what went on in the mario game~
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busb posted:I believe you always lynch Day1. Relying on night actions is always a bad idea because town are uninformed in general about what can transpire at night. The horror. The horrrrrooorrr....
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Mar 24, 2015 06:00
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I've had a pretty good day, how are you guys?
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The plurality voting has me really worried. Sweeroy once started a game which suggested it had that mechanic and there was a lot of "what the hell happens if there are like five people on two votes at the end of the game" type discussion. Fortunately that game was hammer, but this one isn't, and so those worries are now actually relevant. So I guess the main thing to avoid is a tie (or, worse, a three or four-way tie) at the end of the day.
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Mar 24, 2015 06:03
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Anidav posted:I've had a pretty good day, how are you guys? Not voting for you yet 
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Those On My Left posted:The plurality voting has me really worried. Sweeroy once started a game which suggested it had that mechanic and there was a lot of "what the hell happens if there are like five people on two votes at the end of the game" type discussion. Fortunately that game was hammer, but this one isn't, and so those worries are now actually relevant. Alternatively everyone votes for themselves day 1 and the first person to try to unvote just before the deadline gets dog piled as self serving scum
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Tirade posted:The majority voting system has me a bit spooked, I don't know whether it's a help or hindrance to town compared to the hammer. I think the only main hindrance for town of playing to hammer is if the town is too inactive, since you can end up no-lynching from people not voting or getting coordinated in time. But going to end of day plurality instead doesn't actually remove the core problem, that the town is too inactive. The advantage of hammer is having that deadline gives you another behavior to look at, another way to judge people. (by whether they're slacking off, or splitting the vote for possibly nefarious reasons.) Removing that pressure makes it easier to let people off the hook. But this might not be such a drawback if we still hold people accountable for being too absent. Dropping out might not stop us from lynching anybody anymore, but it can stop us from outnumbering the scum vote. One important advantage of NOT playing to hammer though, is that if scum get control of the results into their favor, they have to hold it there the rest of the night. The discussion won't stop the first moment that they get what they want. That was the main thing that drove me nuts when I was scum in a no-hammer game. Those On My Left posted:So I guess the main thing to avoid is a tie (or, worse, a three or four-way tie) at the end of the day. Also this.
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Mar 24, 2015 06:14
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A refusal to act is distinctly un-cybertronian.
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Mar 24, 2015 06:21
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black_tangled posted:I'm going to be hardline on this after the Mario game. I agree. FYI all I'm out for dinner tonight, but my current plan is to check in when I get home and see if any day actions have happened that would alter the calculus. If none have, I'm going to vote for someone with a low post count. D1 we have literally no info apart from posting histories (unless a day action happens). As such it's an ideal opportunity to weed out players who are either simply unhelpfully unproductive or who are trying to coast as scum.
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Those On My Left posted:I agree. What about those of us padding our post counts with empty platitudes? I'm asking for a friend.
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Mar 24, 2015 06:30
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SKY COQ posted:Great job dickhead ##vote Fruity Gordo No posts yet, a shot in the dark. If it turns something up, great.
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On-Point Click Right Here
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Gough Suppressant posted:What about those of us padding our post counts with empty platitudes? trap sprung, you don't have any friends
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Mar 24, 2015 06:31
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 We must all hang together in this, our darkest hour, or we will all assuredly hang alone.
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Oh for gently caress's sale. Gaspy, I'm phone posting and hit edit instead of post. I went back without submitting the edit, however Awful app apparently keeps the edit window open. Apologies, I'll be more careful in future.
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Mar 24, 2015 06:33
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Those On My Left posted:trap sprung, you don't have any friends 
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Mar 24, 2015 06:35
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MUYB never said he was asking for one of his friends, merely 'a friend' which could be anyone. deliberate obfuscation IMO
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Mar 24, 2015 06:37
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My other captain obvious observation from the Nintendo game is: if there's a statistician here,* use the freaking list! *Looking your way Perceptor
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Can you put the votefinder image in the OP please Asphyxious?Gough Suppressant posted:What about those of us padding our post counts with empty platitudes? I like this poast.
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The new rules mean we can carefully think about day one rather than worrying about the hammer, the agreement by the deadline can be rather light but keeping that in mind it changes up how scum can play because there's multiple layers of voting patterns they can try to cower behind such as: "Oh he only died by one vote, it could've been anyone at that point" "Someone else would have voted for him/her anyway" It makes voting outcomes open to interpretation and imagination so I can't wait to see how this works out.
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Gough Suppressant posted:What about those of us padding our post counts with empty platitudes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhpO_WcR_jE&t=22s
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Is there a chance Cybertron will bend?
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Anidav posted:Is there a chance Cybertron will bend? Not a chance my chartreuse friend
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What about us metal blobs?
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Mar 24, 2015 07:14
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##vote fruity gordo because she hasnt posted yet and her cat is ugly
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white mans burping posted:##vote fruity gordo ##vote white mans burping cause how is this guy supposed to scumhunt if he has no eyes?!
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Mar 24, 2015 07:22
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##vote Bifauxnen because don't be ableist towards blind people jeez.
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Mar 24, 2015 07:32
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##vote MilkyMoor I reckon he would have chosen nightmare level difficulty and gotten all the sweet powers.
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black_tangled posted:##vote MilkyMoor You want to get rid of power roles, potentially for town? ##vote black_tangled
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