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CzarChasm posted:Actually, I think there are two ways GH could pull the rug out from under RB. 1) Better Song Selection and 2) 360/PS3 versions. Even then, I'll be damned if Activision is getting any of my money. Thinking about it... is there ANY reason this stuff needs to be next gen? I would think that if they already built the note charts that it would be very simple to keep making new tracks as RB3 DLC.
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CzarChasm posted:Actually, I think there are two ways GH could pull the rug out from under RB. 1) Better Song Selection and 2) 360/PS3 versions. Even then, I'll be damned if Activision is getting any of my money. That is something I could totally see happening, simply because Activision churning out something cheap that can run on either system generation is totally within their bailiwick.
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Mar 23, 2015 23:12
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The more I think about it, the more I suspect that the RB4 DLC releases will have significant overlap with existing RB content. It won't be like past releases, where they deliberately avoided putting out redundant tracks because it's all available on the same platform. The RB catalog up to this point has covered such a huge portion of musical history, and they're not gonna ignore all that stuff that for the new games. The console generation jump changes everything. Being in a past release (DLC or disc) is no longer a reason not to release something. Like, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see some on-disc tracks from RB3 just show up again on the RB4 disc. The DLC schedule will probably have many releases where 90-100% of the content was already in RB3. The good news for the DLC veterans is that they'll get that stuff for free; the bad news is that the whole thing just isn't as exciting.
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Mar 23, 2015 23:17
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Astro7x posted:Thinking about it... is there ANY reason this stuff needs to be next gen? I would think that if they already built the note charts that it would be very simple to keep making new tracks as RB3 DLC. I can't see how, the only thing that would really warrant next gen only status would be graphics, and I don't see that being a high priority for Rock Band. Unless they're going to put in a lot of work for character customization and development, and find some way to show it off without it being hidden behind flowing music notation. edit: also dlc doesn't make as much money as a whole new title + new instruments to flog.
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Mar 23, 2015 23:19
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Just imagine how awful the GH character models will look in 1080p. (Yeah yeah they have better animation but they're so ugly.)
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Mar 23, 2015 23:28
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God dammit Activision, you used to be cool 35 years ago.
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Minidust posted:The more I think about it, the more I suspect that the RB4 DLC releases will have significant overlap with existing RB content. All of the press releases so far have been suggesting that "legacy DLC" will be a distinct entity from new, "regular" DLC. The only question is if we get all of the legacy DLC in a big dump on day 1, or we get parallel releases for a while. I could maybe see some weeks like the end of RB3; at that point we got Blitz songs instead of new tracks every other week, and I could see mega-dumps of legacy songs overriding new content for a week. But I highly doubt they'll shut off the new-song spigot entirely, that would be silly. I cede the point for RB3 disc songs, though. I would happily buy a few of those in the absence of an export.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:56
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It figures that as soon as Harmonix says they're ready to gear back up, Activision announces they're ready to sink the plastic instruments ship again out of spite
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Astro7x posted:Thinking about it... is there ANY reason this stuff needs to be next gen? I would think that if they already built the note charts that it would be very simple to keep making new tracks as RB3 DLC. How else are we going to get guitar straps?
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setafd posted:It figures that as soon as Harmonix says they're ready to gear back up, Activision announces they're ready to sink the plastic instruments ship again out of spite They'll make lovely yearly releases and then wonder why no one wants to buy plastic instrument games anymore.
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Mar 24, 2015 04:06
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Mr E posted:They'll make lovely yearly releases and then wonder why no one wants to buy plastic instrument games anymore. We'll be lucky if it's just yearly.
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I'll admit, I was bummed when I saw the specific language in the RB4 press release saying they DIDN'T intend to make yearly games. I was hoping for Rock Band 2015, ala Rocksmith, with yearly engine upgrades and small (~30) on-disc songlists. I guess title updates are easier now than they used to be, so we can hope for QoL improvements via patch?
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This thread is quickly sending me into a spiral of depression. loving gently caress Activision forever.
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pksage posted:I'll admit, I was bummed when I saw the specific language in the RB4 press release saying they DIDN'T intend to make yearly games. I was hoping for Rock Band 2015, ala Rocksmith, with yearly engine upgrades and small (~30) on-disc songlists. I guess title updates are easier now than they used to be, so we can hope for QoL improvements via patch? As far as I could tell this sounds like this is their intention, to upgrade the core game as a platform rather than a franchise.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:As far as I could tell this sounds like this is their intention, to upgrade the core game as a platform rather than a franchise. I think a happy medium of yearly releases -- in a hypothetical non-competitive world where Activision wasn't being a huge dick -- would be preferable to one release per platform, ever. Regular "disc" (read: digital) releases keep people engaged, because people who don't buy thousands of dollars of DLC will still cash in for, say...a $40 download title with 30 songs in it. And I still believe in Harmonix, but not so much that I think they'll get the game "right" on their first try post-hiatus. I want the Innovate->Perfect model to come back for the current gen and give us the features that Rock Band 4 lacks. fake edit: i am a ray of sunshine, sorry hmx reps who read this
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Mar 24, 2015 05:27
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I'd be cool with yearly band-specific releases that could be exported. Yearly full Rock Band games seem excessive, as I think that Harmonix is leaning more toward a general next-gen platform and Activision has already shown us what happens when the market is saturated.
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Mar 24, 2015 05:31
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This will come to the PC. I can feel it in my bones. The bones that hope for improbable things.
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Mar 24, 2015 05:37
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I hope not. Both because no DLC carry-over and I'm not going to lug my PC everywhere to parties. Getting Rock Band on PC is like setting down the anchor of "Yeah I play a party game alone."
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Orange Harrison posted:I hope not. Both because no DLC carry-over and I'm not going to lug my PC everywhere to parties. Not only that but Guitar Hero: Legends of Rock was pretty poorly optimized on PC, and suffered some bad lag and framerate issues, which is bad for a rhythm game.  (I think it was fixable with some .ini tweaks or something iirc, but still a pain)
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Orange Harrison posted:I hope not. Both because no DLC carry-over and I'm not going to lug my PC everywhere to parties. It would be pretty cool if it was some kind of "cross-buy/play with Xbox One" kind of setup, like Fable Heroes is apparently going to have.
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Mar 24, 2015 13:22
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You mean you don't want Oculus support?
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Mar 24, 2015 13:51
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I want Ouya support! 
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Mar 24, 2015 14:48
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We all do chief, we all do.
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pksage posted:I think a happy medium of yearly releases -- in a hypothetical non-competitive world where Activision wasn't being a huge dick -- would be preferable to one release per platform, ever. Regular "disc" (read: digital) releases keep people engaged, because people who don't buy thousands of dollars of DLC will still cash in for, say...a $40 download title with 30 songs in it. I'm confident sales would dictate a change in policy anyway. If the genre reawakens and they sell a lot of copies in the physical stores I'm sure they will think about a 2016 version to be sold through regular channels.
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Rock Band is the best series and I'm very excited to see what Harmonix brings to Rock Band 4. I was hoping to transition to PS4 this generation, but the DLC carry-forward is sort of a deal clincher for me. I hope I can keep using my Strat replica, but deep in my heart I know I'll buy a new replica guitar if they offer it. edit: Guitar of Duty go home
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The T posted:Guitar Hero 7 to feature keys, pro guitar. Also guitar straps, VR mode, and additional band members (manager, groupie, roadie and audience member).
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I went to the song suggestion page and suggested a bunch of stoner metal, and threw in madonnas material girl just so the intern who checks for valid submissions sees the IP/time stamps and has a giggle. would legit play the poo poo out of that song on drums tho EDIT: VVVVVV mostly High on Fire songs but yes this was also on my 'what if' list. Laserface fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Mar 25, 2015 |
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Laserface posted:I went to the song suggestion page and suggested a bunch of stoner metal, and threw in madonnas material girl just so the intern who checks for valid submissions sees the IP/time stamps and has a giggle. New "Bladder of Steel" Achievement: Play Sleep's "Dopesmoker" in its entirety without pausing.
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Merijn posted:VR mode Binowru posted:New "Bladder of Steel" Achievement: Play Sleep's "Dopesmoker" in its entirety without pausing. *If you're throwing out keys, please give us something by Buckethead, like Soothsayer, or, for the surface-scrapers, Jordan. *Also successfully licensing both Lennon and McCartney solo means a remote chance of one of Harrison's or Starr's solo hits. (Discounting any Ringo tracks before~1990 because his solo albums weren't successful enough to be archived and were deleted/overwritten, plus Harrison's masters from "All Things Must Pass" which were deleted by George personally after making his own mixdowns for the 2001 CD remastering, right before he, you know, died.) *Primus was the first major band to let HMX use a master track all the way back in 2007 (John the Fisherman), and after years of fan nagging they netted another master take with "Jerry Was a Racecar Driver" in 2010. Legal signs point to more Primus! ~Harmonix Trivia~ The master track for "John the Fisherman" was only allowed into Guitar Hero 2 because frontman Les Claypool was so arrogant that he believed nobody else could ever accurately emulate Primus' sound, and when asked for permission for a cover of "John the Fisherman" to be made, simply told the publisher to let Harmonix/Wavegroup use the original master instead. Edit: Also Claypool limits his kids to 30 minutes of videogames a day, and that was how he found out Guitar Hero was hot poo poo in 2006-7. LOS BASTARDOS. Needless to say, reading that interview left me convinced that Primus would never again touch a music game, but since they turned up on the RB3 disc, I hold a glimmer of hope that something more might come up either in or after RB4. Orange Harrison fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Mar 25, 2015 |
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Wanna read that interview. Link?
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There aren't even masters for Don't Come Easy? That's the only Ringo solo track I know.
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Mar 25, 2015 14:33
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But the Ringo tracks before 1990 WERE the good tracks! I'd kill to have Photograph in this game.
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Our most recent Rock Band "disc" release was Blitz, and I think Blitz shows us a likely model -- lots of 2010s tracks, but probably with more classic rock than Blitz had to really sell some copies. A few pages back I mentioned some likely 2010s songs: Bastille - "Pompeii" Big Data - "Dangerous" Capital Cities - "Safe and Sound" (might be a harder sell without keys) Milky Chance - "Stolen Dance" The Neighborhood - "Sweater Weather" Otherwise...
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pksage posted:Our most recent Rock Band "disc" release was Blitz, and I think Blitz shows us a likely model -- lots of 2010s tracks, but probably with more classic rock than Blitz had to really sell some copies. A few pages back I mentioned some likely 2010s songs: I really, really doubt any long standing holdouts are going to change their minds after a 5 year hiatus. Plus Activision has way more money to throw around for stuff like that. Sometimes it seems Harmonix tries to get stuff done on good will and "do it for the music!" alone.
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Orgophlax posted:I really, really doubt any long standing holdouts are going to change their minds after a 5 year hiatus. Plus Activision has way more money to throw around for stuff like that. Sometimes it seems Harmonix tries to get stuff done on good will and "do it for the music!" alone. But exactly BECAUSE of the hiatus, I could see Harmonix blowing some cash on exactly one or two new classic rock artists to really entice people. And hey, optimism, maybe some masters were uncovered or whatever in the last few years. 
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If we take out from our stats those bands that won't probably make it anyway (U2, Pink Floyd, GnR, Led Zeppelin...), 3 items stand out for me: - ABBA's Mamma Mia. Yep. - The Cranberries' Zombie. Actually, this one is an awesome fit for the keyless Rock Band era. - Journey's Separate Ways (Worlds Apart).
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pksage posted:Otherwise...
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I know I'll be on my own here, but some of the earlier batshit mental Biffy Clyro songs would be nice. I hope to god they manage to figure a way to let me access my previously bought poo poo from 360 to PS4. It might happen (I know it won't), Diablo 3 let you transfer saves across platforms and generations so it is technically possible. It's annoying because I've spent a fair bit on DLC on the 360, but I really don't want an Xbox One. First world problems right here, woe is me.
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farottone posted:- The Cranberries' Zombie. Actually, this one is an awesome fit for the keyless Rock Band era. This was just released for Rocksmith last week, so they are at least open to licensing the song out. It's been in my head, in my head, ever since, ever since, ever since, since, since, since, oh.
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Fistful of Silence posted:For reasons that this interview from a couple of years ago talks about, I don't think we'll ever see Muse or G'N'R in Rock Band (as farottone has basically already said). I remember a forum post from around when Rock Band DLC ended, by either Drake or Chris, that basically said Muse just didn't bother answering them when they requested more songs. For G'N'R, well, blame Guitar Hero. Slash was put on their box, and he played Welcome to the Jungle in the game, and naturally when Axl found out he threw a shitfit because that implied Slash was still a member of G'N'R. I believe that happened after we'd already gotten the one song on disc for RB2 and the new album as DLC, and it pretty much killed any potential new songs from them, which really sucked cause most of the guys who gave us full albums also gave use really good singles and packs later on. (excluding Pixies, for whatever reason)
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